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Old 11-11-2011, 08:00 AM   #56641
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How is the DR650 for long highway slogs? I am down to choosing between just a couple bikes and the DR650 is at the top of my list for all the reasons you guys know about, the thing is for me to get anywhere interesting on it I've got at least 2-3 hours on pavement and am just wondering if it's going to vibrate me to death. I had a DRZ400sm that I put quite a few road miles on and sometimes my hands would fall asleep lol.
vibration is minimal, but it's still a thumper. suzuki did a good job w/ counterbalancer. not glass smooth by any means like a multi-cyl bike but good. check out these 2 products. sounds like you need both.
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check out the touring thread for creature comforts
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=671846

i use upright protaper atv-mid bars (alum. is better than steel for vibs too), sargent seat. i wear mtb padded shorts plus use this back brace for comfort and support http://www.ruoutside.com/backthing-perforated.html
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:11 AM   #56642
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I just wanted to post at 11:11 on 11/11/11
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:20 AM   #56643
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[QUOTE=LexTalionis;17279918]Wednesday I read to page 5, post 80263 in one sitting. Very entertaining report, great pics and I love your dry British humor. Too bad the girls you gave up your room to didn’t give you a tumble.

Good to see your DR is soldiering on with so little drama, just a cracked inline fuel filter as I recall. And your self-inflicted tube pinches, of course.

But, the BMW (quoted from your RR):
chain SNAPPED
throttle cable was only held together by two threads
the left hand side of the subframe had broken
and shortly thereafter: the subframe snapped both sides

And it was some Dakar-prepped bike? WTH? That guy didn’t bother to properly prep his bike, apparently. Not someone I’d care to leave civilization with. I recall an in-progress RR from one of your countrymen that I started Wednesday also, he bought a Honda XL600 to ride to Africa but, as I recall, discovered a worn-out chain and worn/cracked countershaft sprocket before leaving France. Some riders should stay home, for their own safety. However, their misfortunes on the road do make for interesting reading.

Thank you for taking the time to post the RR, I'll be following along till the end.

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Old 11-11-2011, 08:51 AM   #56644
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Excellent post, saving that picture to my documents.
Im using that KTM needle in my DR , only $11.00
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:12 AM   #56645
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Small washer under the clip. The needle is quite a bit shorter than the stock one.
At 2000 ft elevation, that KTM needle would be used with what size jet? Is there a part number for that KTM needle?
Thanks, anyone.
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:22 AM   #56646
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Storz - it'll do the distance....even if it's poorly maintained. http://dualsport-sd.com/forums/index...ost__p__115000 Riding buddy from a local group.

I have the Cee Bailey's Sport windscreen which helps alot and I have some Robobrackets on the way that I'm adding for adjustability. I'll post up when I get the install done.

c2c4c - Didn't know about the Touring thread....thx.
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:36 AM   #56647
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Storz - it'll do the distance....even if it's poorly maintained. http://dualsport-sd.com/forums/index...ost__p__115000 Riding buddy from a local group.

I have the Cee Bailey's Sport windscreen which helps alot and I have some Robobrackets on the way that I'm adding for adjustability. I'll post up when I get the install done.

c2c4c - Didn't know about the Touring thread....thx.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:00 AM   #56648
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Also I thought (but not sure) that the Dynojet needle hung down below the shelf at the bottom of the slide with the open end of the e-clip alongside the shelf/step (similar to the procycle needle), making the length below the slide a little closer then the pic would indicate.
I know at one point the Kientech site talked about actually cutting the white spacer into a D shape so the spacer would sit alongside the shelf for the Dynojet needle (but I think they abandoned those instructions), so I am not sure what the current Dynojet instructions say.
This is my concern. Not cocking the needle in the bore increases the tendency of the needle to rotate and bang around in the slide's needle bore and the emulsion tube. The addition of rotation and impact causes more wear than rubbing alone.

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Old 11-11-2011, 10:04 AM   #56649
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Is there a part number for that KTM needle?
It's 584.31.034.6G5.

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Old 11-11-2011, 10:37 AM   #56650
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:47 AM   #56651
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Small washer under the clip. The needle is quite a bit shorter than the stock one.
Awesome! A couple of things to add:

Factory Pro uses ever so sightly different needles in their DR and LC4 kits. The DR needle has a .004" larger tip diameter than the KTM one does. By your measurements I'll assume the needle FP in the picture is from a DR kit.

Generally speaking, one would tune so that the main jet is correct during high rpm WOT operation. If one were to do so, and one were to assume that the stock, FP and KTM needles to be close-ish, then I expect one would find the DJ needle to be lean during lower rpm WOT operation.

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Old 11-11-2011, 10:48 AM   #56652
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.. Is there a part number for that KTM needle?...
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:50 AM   #56653
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This is my concern. Not cocking the needle in the bore increases the tendency of the needle to rotate and bang around in the slide's needle bore and the emulsion tube. The addition of rotation and impact causes more wear than rubbing alone.

Regards,

Derek
I am not really convinced (yet) of whether or not the potential for rotation or added movement would cause more wear then being cocked against the slide bore. There have been many photos of radical slide bore wear, needle, and emulsion tube wear from the cocked needle. But I really haven't seen any evidence of extreme wear when the shelf issue has been eliminated (by one means or another) and possibly allowing rotation of the needle. Probably because there are not many out there who have eliminated the shelf issue --- I have, so time will tell. However it is an interesting point to consider.

My question though is: wouldn't the flat side of the e-clip (if positioned along side the shelf) prevent rotation of the needle?

Thanks!

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Old 11-11-2011, 10:51 AM   #56654
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...If one were to do so, and one were to assume that the stock, FP and KTM needles to be close-ish, then I expect one would find the DJ needle to be lean during lower rpm WOT operation.....
which would cause that off-idle bog that people often complain about?
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:13 AM   #56655
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I thought at least one of you would have looked at this
Great read Phil! Thanks for sharing.
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