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Old 11-11-2011, 07:43 AM   #56656
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Small washer under the clip. The needle is quite a bit shorter than the stock one.

Excellent post, saving that picture to my documents.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:08 AM   #56657
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Just a note On the pic that NordieBoy posted. Keep in mind the KTM needle is designed to also have a white spacer under it as well as a metal washer/shim, so in reality it should not hang lower below the slide then the stock one and the measurements/taper would show a greater difference compared to stock DR.

Also I thought (but not sure) that the Dynojet needle hung down below the shelf at the bottom of the slide with the open end of the e-clip alongside the shelf/step (similar to the procycle needle), making the length below the slide a little closer then the pic would indicate.
I know at one point the Kientech site talked about actually cutting the white spacer into a D shape so the spacer would sit alongside the shelf for the Dynojet needle (but I think they abandoned those instructions), so I am not sure what the current Dynojet instructions say.

Thanks Nordie!

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Old 11-11-2011, 08:15 AM   #56658
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How is the DR650 for long highway slogs? I am down to choosing between just a couple bikes and the DR650 is at the top of my list for all the reasons you guys know about, the thing is for me to get anywhere interesting on it I've got at least 2-3 hours on pavement and am just wondering if it's going to vibrate me to death. I had a DRZ400sm that I put quite a few road miles on and sometimes my hands would fall asleep lol.
I ride a very smooth street bike, a PC800, and think my Dr also is very smooth. With the wind blast I wouldn't care to do 70 mph for hours on end but it will cruise along at that speed all day long. It even turns less RPMs than my PC and is also way faster. I have a gel seat so my buttocks get a little sore after a couple of hours which I think is a world record.
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Old 11-11-2011, 08:41 AM   #56659
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How is the DR650 for long highway slogs? I am down to choosing between just a couple bikes and the DR650 is at the top of my list for all the reasons you guys know about, the thing is for me to get anywhere interesting on it I've got at least 2-3 hours on pavement and am just wondering if it's going to vibrate me to death. I had a DRZ400sm that I put quite a few road miles on and sometimes my hands would fall asleep lol.
I don't mind it for highway. I've done a few 400 miles days with no issue at 70mph.

The stock seat is a torture rack. I couldn't ride that long on it. I went with Corbin, many others like Sargent, Seat Concepts, or even custom built stuff.

I have a MadStad windsheild on the way, which I've been hearing will completely change the way it will feel at higher speeds. I've never had a bike with a windshield that shoves air past the middle of my chest, so I'm looking forward to experiencing it.

Happy Trails make highway pegs. Not sure how comfortable they'd be, but on long jaunts, it's nice to have a different leg position.

For vibrations, going with something like the anti-vibration Rox Risers is a possibility. It's no inline 4, but vibrations really aren't that bad even at more-than-legal highway speeds (on the other hand some KTMs are known to be able to mix paint). Soft grips are a big help on their own for $10.

The DR650 Highway Touring Thread here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=671846

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Old 11-11-2011, 09:00 AM   #56660
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How is the DR650 for long highway slogs? I am down to choosing between just a couple bikes and the DR650 is at the top of my list for all the reasons you guys know about, the thing is for me to get anywhere interesting on it I've got at least 2-3 hours on pavement and am just wondering if it's going to vibrate me to death. I had a DRZ400sm that I put quite a few road miles on and sometimes my hands would fall asleep lol.
vibration is minimal, but it's still a thumper. suzuki did a good job w/ counterbalancer. not glass smooth by any means like a multi-cyl bike but good. check out these 2 products. sounds like you need both.
http://www.vibranator.com/default.asp
http://spidergrips.com/


check out the touring thread for creature comforts
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=671846

i use upright protaper atv-mid bars (alum. is better than steel for vibs too), sargent seat. i wear mtb padded shorts plus use this back brace for comfort and support http://www.ruoutside.com/backthing-perforated.html
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:11 AM   #56661
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:20 AM   #56662
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[QUOTE=LexTalionis;17279918]Wednesday I read to page 5, post 80263 in one sitting. Very entertaining report, great pics and I love your dry British humor. Too bad the girls you gave up your room to didn’t give you a tumble.

Good to see your DR is soldiering on with so little drama, just a cracked inline fuel filter as I recall. And your self-inflicted tube pinches, of course.

But, the BMW (quoted from your RR):
chain SNAPPED
throttle cable was only held together by two threads
the left hand side of the subframe had broken
and shortly thereafter: the subframe snapped both sides

And it was some Dakar-prepped bike? WTH? That guy didn’t bother to properly prep his bike, apparently. Not someone I’d care to leave civilization with. I recall an in-progress RR from one of your countrymen that I started Wednesday also, he bought a Honda XL600 to ride to Africa but, as I recall, discovered a worn-out chain and worn/cracked countershaft sprocket before leaving France. Some riders should stay home, for their own safety. However, their misfortunes on the road do make for interesting reading.

Thank you for taking the time to post the RR, I'll be following along till the end.

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Old 11-11-2011, 09:51 AM   #56663
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Excellent post, saving that picture to my documents.
Im using that KTM needle in my DR , only $11.00
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:12 AM   #56664
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Small washer under the clip. The needle is quite a bit shorter than the stock one.
At 2000 ft elevation, that KTM needle would be used with what size jet? Is there a part number for that KTM needle?
Thanks, anyone.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:22 AM   #56665
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Storz - it'll do the distance....even if it's poorly maintained. http://dualsport-sd.com/forums/index...ost__p__115000 Riding buddy from a local group.

I have the Cee Bailey's Sport windscreen which helps alot and I have some Robobrackets on the way that I'm adding for adjustability. I'll post up when I get the install done.

c2c4c - Didn't know about the Touring thread....thx.
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Old 11-11-2011, 10:36 AM   #56666
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Storz - it'll do the distance....even if it's poorly maintained. http://dualsport-sd.com/forums/index...ost__p__115000 Riding buddy from a local group.

I have the Cee Bailey's Sport windscreen which helps alot and I have some Robobrackets on the way that I'm adding for adjustability. I'll post up when I get the install done.

c2c4c - Didn't know about the Touring thread....thx.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:00 AM   #56667
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Also I thought (but not sure) that the Dynojet needle hung down below the shelf at the bottom of the slide with the open end of the e-clip alongside the shelf/step (similar to the procycle needle), making the length below the slide a little closer then the pic would indicate.
I know at one point the Kientech site talked about actually cutting the white spacer into a D shape so the spacer would sit alongside the shelf for the Dynojet needle (but I think they abandoned those instructions), so I am not sure what the current Dynojet instructions say.
This is my concern. Not cocking the needle in the bore increases the tendency of the needle to rotate and bang around in the slide's needle bore and the emulsion tube. The addition of rotation and impact causes more wear than rubbing alone.

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Old 11-11-2011, 11:04 AM   #56668
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Is there a part number for that KTM needle?
It's 584.31.034.6G5.

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Old 11-11-2011, 11:37 AM   #56669
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:47 AM   #56670
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Small washer under the clip. The needle is quite a bit shorter than the stock one.
Awesome! A couple of things to add:

Factory Pro uses ever so sightly different needles in their DR and LC4 kits. The DR needle has a .004" larger tip diameter than the KTM one does. By your measurements I'll assume the needle FP in the picture is from a DR kit.

Generally speaking, one would tune so that the main jet is correct during high rpm WOT operation. If one were to do so, and one were to assume that the stock, FP and KTM needles to be close-ish, then I expect one would find the DJ needle to be lean during lower rpm WOT operation.

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