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Old 05-12-2012, 07:30 AM   #64141
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Spoke thing?

So I cannot figure out how to add a pic here. I will do my best to describe. On the front wheel of my '12 650, on one of the spokes is a large hunk of metal that looks like clamped on with a pair of pliers. It is on the front wheel over the part of the spoke that inserts into the rim; the piece that you tighten. There is not one on the rear rim. It looks half-assed and silly on a new bike. What is it and is it normal?

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Old 05-12-2012, 07:39 AM   #64142
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Its a wheel weight. That type of wheel weight does look really out of place. I don't like them.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:39 AM   #64143
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I work for a truck dealer, I had one of the parts guys call all over town for me, a few could get the plugs over night but NOBODY had them in stock, bike/auto/small engine shops all checked.
Wow that's sad. I live in a town of 7K and both Autozone and O'Reilly have them in stock.
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:39 AM   #64144
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Speedometer Mounts

I realize that my speedometer should have some movement in the rubber mounts but I can grab the speedo head and move it around quite a bit.....seems like it wasn't that loose before. I live in a dry climate and rubber goes away quick here so I'm thinking the mounts may need to be replaced.

Is that much movent normal ? Is this a common problem? Better aftermarket rubber bushings?
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Old 05-12-2012, 07:48 AM   #64145
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I realize that my speedometer should have some movement in the rubber mounts but I can grab the speedo head and move it around quite a bit.....seems like it wasn't that loose before. I live in a dry climate and rubber goes away quick here so I'm thinking the mounts may need to be replaced.

Is that much movent normal ? Is this a common problem? Better aftermarket rubber bushings?
Add a washer between the nut and the stud on the bottom of the speedometer to take up the slack from the shrinking rubber.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:04 AM   #64146
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Still looks good to me.....

My last Shinko 700 was on the wear bars at 4000 or so. I was happy with the tire. Tend to like the 705 better though, I like the better tread life.

Wear is so bike and rider specific. What oil you runnin :p : :sly:

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Wear is specific to just the rider in my case. There's a reason I have this stockpile of tires

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Old 05-12-2012, 08:07 AM   #64147
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Wheel weight

Ahh - thanks MotoD - sounds common sense to me..now.
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:08 AM   #64148
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Wear is specific to just the rider in my case. There's a reason I have this stockpile of tires

Holy smokes Batman!! I've been in dealerships that didn't have that many tires!!
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Old 05-12-2012, 08:46 AM   #64149
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Wear is specific to just the rider in my case. There's a reason I have this stockpile of tires

At first I thought you had some doomesday-horder thing going then checked your profile, just a couple spares for each bike.
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Old 05-12-2012, 09:14 AM   #64150
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Pics if the "new" Pat Walsh Designs skid plate are up on their web site. It's looking pretty good to me, but I wish they would have done away with the front clamps. Otherwise a nice clean design and extra beefy! Extended rear using the factory mounts and went back to the rubber isolation.

I'm still waffling back and forth between the PWD and the SW Motech, and occasionly looking at the TCI plate with the integrated crash bars.

SW Motech

The SW Motech is currently on my 07 Roadie DR, extremely tidy mounting setup (rubber grommets / no clamps), but the aluminum sheet is only 1/8" and shouldn't be considered for serious offroad use. Great for fireroads / adv touring and mellow trail riding though... IMO

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Old 05-12-2012, 11:56 AM   #64151
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The SW Motech is currently on my 07 Roadie DR, extremely tidy mounting setup (rubber grommets / no clamps), but the aluminum sheet is only 1/8" and shouldn't be considered for serious offroad use. Great for fireroads / adv touring and mellow trail riding though... IMO

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I agree with this and would add, the drain plug hole is spot on, I don't think I have ever had to clean any motor oil off the skid plate after an oil change. No reflective noise at all with all the openings. Here in AZ I think the air circulation would also be a benefit. Great street/supermoto plate. The SW Motech skid plate will flex/bend slightly if you lift the bike from the skid plate with a lift table style jack that only lifts from a single point.

I had the Ricochet products skid plate and removed it, I didn't like how the mounting clamps had to be positioned just right in the recesses of the case and even then were too close for comfort. The reflective noise was terrible, on the street it made the gearbox sound like it was filled with gravel. With the Ricochet skid plate, I don't know how you would early detect any new noise from the transmission if a problem were to develop.

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Old 05-12-2012, 12:17 PM   #64152
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Is there any way to hard wire a GPS that would normally use a cigarette lighter plug? Can you just cut off the plug and splice the wires or is there some sort of a transformer in that plug? I'm thinking specifically of a basic Garmin unit meant for cars.

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Is that key-controlled power or constant?

I'm thinking it might be a good idea, if that connection is low power and key-controlled, to use it to control a relay that runs to the battery.

That way there's no extra load on that connector (or too much of a load) and there's no load to drain the battery when the key is off.

Just thinking out loud...
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:33 PM   #64153
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I realize that my speedometer should have some movement in the rubber mounts but I can grab the speedo head and move it around quite a bit.....seems like it wasn't that loose before. I live in a dry climate and rubber goes away quick here so I'm thinking the mounts may need to be replaced.

Is that much movent normal ? Is this a common problem? Better aftermarket rubber bushings?
Mine are very loose too ... and I'm always thinking they are about to fall off, but everything is tight. That said, It would not hurt to add a new rubber damper in there, just to snug things up. My only concern with all the movement is stress on the Speedo cable. I'd bet you could improvise a rubber grommet of some kind to fit in there. The nuts will be very tight coming off (factory loc-tite) but they will come off.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:37 PM   #64154
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Is there any way to hard wire a GPS that would normally use a cigarette lighter plug? Can you just cut off the plug and splice the wires or is there some sort of a transformer in that plug? I'm thinking specifically of a basic Garmin unit meant for cars.

Thanks!
If you are talking about the little switched plug up by the headlight, then YES, it's fine for a GPS. I use it to run my Heated Grips. (36 watts on high). No relay. Works fine. GPS probably draws 7 to 10 watts max. No problemo.

Keep in mind, its a SWITCHED connector, which means is only HOT with KEY ON. There are several, various Switched and UNswitched plugs available ALL over the DR. Look around the battery/air box and around main fuse area. Two or three are free. Stick your VOM on them, check them out.
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Old 05-12-2012, 12:56 PM   #64155
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Righto gents... I just found a 2006 DR650 at a local dealership, and I hope y'all don't mind some questions.

Under 3000 miles, they want $3999 (too much, and I told them that). It has a Givi thin-wall-plastic top-box (I'm not into top-boxes... I reckon I could use it for a bit then sell it), a dent in the tank with paint flaked off, minor dent pock-marks on the muffler's guard plate on the right side of the bike, and it has a bottom-guard of some sort. It's also the color I least wanted... yellow. (sorry Yellow owners)

1.) I am only 5'10", 32" inseam at max... more like 30" for dress pants... yet with thin flip-flops I was able to basically flat-foot it, or flat-foot one foot, and the other would be up less than a centimeter at the heel... but basically felt like flat-footing both sides... so with boots I'd be flat-footed no problem. I noticed that when I got on it the suspension went down quite a bit (185 lbs.). This doesn't seem right, but I've never sat on a DR650 before. Sure, OK, so it's a Japanese bike, and we all know they spring them for anorexic japanese teen-agers... so I don't mind switching springs up front, but I'm going to guess the rear spring will cost me dearly to get it up to par.

This will be a initially re-geared (with, what, a 17-tooth front sprocket?) slab-commuting bike expected to do Florida speeds (I'll need to work the suspension to be stable at 80 MPH, or faster, and it will get road tires on the rims for now... it has what look like original Bridgestone tires on it).

2.) it has a Corbin seat (again, ugly blue and yellow), but color me shocked when I found out how soft it is... Unexpected and disappointing for a Corbin - I expected that high-quality firm foam support from them (I own a Corbin on another bike), and can't imagine this one is any better than a stock soft-foam saddle so many bikes come with. So this seems wrong as well.

How much $ am I looking at to change the plastics to some other color... I know I can spray-paint what is on the bike, but that seems extreme for such a new bike. I don't know if I could use ebay to sell the plastics on it, but I guess there'd be a market.

I can't think of much else, but I know I'm looking at an investment to get the bike up to a quasi-super-moto that is ready for 400 miles a week commuting. I really can't find any other style of bike with such a neutral seating position, and I like the ability it will have to take it on dirt roads and trails.

Any input would be helpful. I'm sure it's a good bike due to the mileage, but ... so much needs changed on it to make it anything like I'd want. On top of that, I've seen DR's through the Flea Market here, and on craigslist in other states, for less money that I'd rather have.

I'm waiting for a phone call with their best offer since I told him what my research showed on the price and prices of others. Aside form the price, though, any comments about anything I've noted above? Thanks for any input.
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