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Old 05-13-2012, 11:17 AM   #64216
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Question Tiny-Tach anyone?

I am going to order one of these Tiny-Tachs soon.
After I save up from my next ProCycle order....
PC gets most of my money.
http://tinytach.com/gasoline.php#
Small, sealed, and under $50.

Does anyone have experience with them?
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:30 AM   #64217
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Hey, Adv Grifter, I need an education on this. I've walked on and laid on lots of sand, but none have been magnetic, to my knowledge. My understanding is, sand is generally silicon dioxide and / or calcium carbonate. I believe neither of these compounds are magnetic. Neither are common "dirt" and small pebbles. What say you?

Also, personally, I use ~200psi to blow out the area around the plugs before removal; there's no way anything will be left for a "tiny magnet" to pick up.

Lex
You're correct of course ... only a few particles in sand are magnetic. I used to play with magnets in the sand! High pressure air is the best. I've used a magnet when no air is available just to get what I can. I worry most about the magnetic particles ... as they are hard and more likely to do damage. Plain dirt won't do much. Small pebbles need to got out manually if no air.

The Magnet has picked up some particles but not all. Main thing is just handling the plug carefully when pulling it out and putting it back in. Don't disturb any of crap particles sitting around the plug. That said ... on one occasion early on with my DR, I did bump some debris into the plug hole! The DR just ate it up and never complained.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:39 AM   #64218
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Yes, seems some of the steps you speak of should have been put in.
I had the new pick-up coil in hand so found the OEM pick-up coil screwed inside of the stator cover. It was held in place with two philips screws. The stator is not disturbed.
The pick-up coil is not part of the stator. It is off to the side of the stator. The magnet (round disk on the end of the crankshaft fits in between the stator and pick-up coil.
The two wires from the pick-up coil pass thru a rubber grommet to exit the stator cover and continue inside the wiring harness to the CDI box.

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Thanks Jack. I'm hoping I won't be going in there any time soon. But next long trip I'm bringing a spare pick-up coil along ... and the knowledge to swap it out if I need to. Thanks!!
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:43 AM   #64219
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Mambo...just curious. If you're planning to put on a 17 tooth gear and slap commute with it, why are you interested in a DR versus maybe a Wee Strom?
I don't know about Mambo's perspective, but mine is pretty much:

Unless you're a really good dirt rider, ever leaving pavement around SoFL would be WORK on something much less dirty than a DR/KLR. I'm not even talking trails. Even the basic dirt roads in much of FL can be sugarsand. A DR with a 15, 16, or even 17T front sprocket would still be manageable to ride for a novice, and easy enough to pick up. A 500lb+ Wee, with a lot of the weight up front? Not so easy. After a swap to a 14 or 15T sprocket, and a skinny sand-capable 21" front knobby, a DR can actually scoot around decently on even the tighter FL trails. There's also much less to damage WHEN it takes a nap.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:46 AM   #64220
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Fixing the bottom took some working out , but finally came up with this



OK i know it's not the best but at least it's better than nothing !!!! I will get some 3mm steel and make a better FLAMINGO !!!

The reason all this started was i picked this bike lift up for 50 , bargain !!! and had to see if it worked

Hoped you enjoyed my messing about and i'm more than open to other ideas

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Brilliant work Phil! And something we could really use. Most dirt bikes have case savers available, I thought I saw one once for the DR, can't recall. I like yours a lot. Nice work!
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:53 AM   #64221
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He might have taken a wrong turn on the last ride and went through NZ by mistake.
Yes I have worked at that steel mill.
I don't know if it's Iron Sand or not ... but El Salvador's beaches are all Black Sand. Too hot to walk on. I lived ... and surfed at La Libertad, El Salvador for 3 months in the 1970's. I think I also a saw Black Sand beaches in Thailand, memories dim on this.

Getting back to the Magnet ... I always get lots of crap on the magnet every time I put it down next to the plugs.
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Old 05-13-2012, 11:54 AM   #64222
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I am going to order one of these Tiny-Tachs soon.
After I save up from my next ProCycle order....
PC gets most of my money.
http://tinytach.com/gasoline.php#
Small, sealed, and under $50.

Does anyone have experience with them?

I got one from Top Gun Motorcycles, though I don't think they carry them any more. It works well, although I should have specified the fast refresh unit. the slow one lags a bit.

EDIT: looks like the slow one is no longer available.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:15 PM   #64223
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Is Super Clean like Simple Green? Is it an Alkaline base type cleaner?

I use Made In Germany S-100. (also an Alkaline base cleaner, I think) You can never use on a hot motor and never leave bike in the Sun. You have to be very careful on any sort of Aluminum or Magnesium. It will stain and pit it.
I constantly re-wet it ... with just a lite mist to keep it working. Once it dries you could have trouble.
Always rinse very well.
I looked it up...yes it is alkaline. Guess I should check that first next time. I diluted it about 16:1 and did it on a cold bike.
Rinsed it off in 2 to 3 minutes. Still messed up the rims and swingarm. Mothers polish helped.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:22 PM   #64224
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I looked it up...yes it is alkaline. Guess I should check that first next time. I diluted it about 16:1 and did it on a cold bike.
Rinsed it off in 2 to 3 minutes. Still messed up the rims and swingarm. Mothers polish helped.
Wow! You did everything right! That stuff must be some strong Ju Ju. Two to Three minutes? Man, keep that stuff off your skin!
S-100 is very expensive but effective. I've never etched anything as long as its kept WET. That seems to be the key.

I like the recommendation of SHOUT! laundry spray. I do cleaning in stages. I use other laundry products early in my step by step process. The S-100 and WD40 come later.

I just discovered a minor weep from my Oil Drain plug. Time for a new Copper washer. I always re-anneal mine and I go easy on the Torque.
Skid Plate will have to come off to clean. Good news is the leak is keeping a bit of oil on shock linkage to combat water ingress.
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:25 PM   #64225
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Thanks AdvG
Not back for a rag arse brickie , if i say so myself ............LexTalionis put me on to this http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html probably end up with one , going back to Morocco in Sept and its full of rocks !!!!!
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:43 PM   #64226
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PC Case saver on my DR

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Brilliant work Phil! And something we could really use. Most dirt bikes have case savers available, I thought I saw one once for the DR, can't recall. I like yours a lot. Nice work!
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Old 05-13-2012, 12:58 PM   #64227
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I got a virus alert clicking that link.
It is all the ads and pop up crap. I need to find a better free photo host.
Like some porno sites so I hear!
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:08 PM   #64228
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SORRY about the delay guys...
History...
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NSU Question...

Finally did my NSU fix this past weekend. Mine is a 2008 with 8k miles and the screws were loose. They would have come off by themselves if I had stared at them long enough.

I just removed and cleaned the screws, put in blue loctite and screwed them back. I had to take the clutch off to get to the second screw.

Two Questions...

1. When I put clutch and the cover back on and connected the clutch release arm to the clutch pinion, there seems to be no spring action. I am almost sure that I put in everything back, what am I doing wrong?


Is it something related to this?
http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/510...st__p__9196917
Can somebody explain what it means in post #50...

2. The gasket on the clutch cover is intact. Can I just put it back or should I put in something in between...Sealant? which one?



Now some free advice to those who will be doing this in the future...

1. Get the correct tools before starting the job...(I had to run to the tools shop a few times to get the tools). This set was very helpful

http://www.harborfreight.com/21-piec...set-67998.html


2. The big nut holding the clutch basket is size 27MM socket. So make sure you have that. I got this...

http://www.harborfreight.com/13-piec...set-67904.html


If you don't want to remove the clutch basket, get a 'small flat ratcheting wrench that holds Phillips bit' like in the pic this page

http://www.thumpertalk.com/topic/510...e/page__st__20


3. An impact driver makes your job easy.

http://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece...set-93481.html


4. Never use the generic socket. I used it and cracked my clutch cover near one of the bolts.
Pics later...
http://www.harborfreight.com/38-driv...ket-67934.html


Disclaimer: I do not have any vested interest in the harbor freight store except that I am a frugal shopper.
This is the issue I had...




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Nothing is wrong, the clutch cable and clutch arm get their spring action from the clutch springs. The arm swings free until the clutch cable is adjusted properly.

post #50 is wrong. Make sure the teeth on the horizontal splined shaft are pointing to the front when you put the cover on. It spins freely in the clutch but I'm not sure if the cover will even go back on if the splines are pointing the wrong way (on the internal horizontal splined shaft). Since the vertical splined shaft is machined 360* on both ends, it doesn't matter where it is when installed. That adjustment is made with the arm after the cover is on.

This should help, if not, let us know.
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...7&postcount=34

My buddy just puts a coat of grease on the grease
The link in the above post was the fix.. Turn the lever in the video to the right most position and then remove and realign the lever on the left most position. Thanks ER70S-2.

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I've never used one of those "universal" sockets, don't plan to. However, out of academic curiosity, how did using that type of socket crack your cover???

Thanks,
Lex
I think I did not align the center of the socket with the bolt center and then applied too much torque. Moreover I think the generic sockets are of a bigger diameter than can fit in the space correctly...

Well here is the result of my stupidity...






Hope this helps somebody avoid this mistake.
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Old 05-13-2012, 01:31 PM   #64229
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Some sand is magnetic

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Hey, Adv Grifter, I need an education on this. I've walked on and laid on lots of sand, but none have been magnetic, to my knowledge. My understanding is, sand is generally silicon dioxide and / or calcium carbonate. I believe neither of these compounds are magnetic. Neither are common "dirt" and small pebbles. What say you?

Also, personally, I use ~200psi to blow out the area around the plugs before removal; there's no way anything will be left for a "tiny magnet" to pick up.

Lex
Lex, yes I agree that most sand is silicon dioxide??? (glass) but some of it (magnetite) is magnetic, as any gold prospector will tell you. Gold prospecting stores sell special magnets to remove the black sand from the gold dust that you've panned. http://www.goldfeverprospecting.com/blacksand.html

I enjoy learning from advrider. There is a lot of knowledge to be found here.

I've had quite a lot of black sand stick to the magnets of my tank bag and scratch the blue paint (OEM metal tank).

In the field, the crud needs cleaned from the spark plugs any way possible to be able to change out a bad one.

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Old 05-13-2012, 01:39 PM   #64230
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New owner here. Been lurking for a while. I posted a while back looking to test ride a DR650. Found one on Craigslist up in Cortez, Colorado. Arranged a meeting in Gallup. My son and I rode it home from there. Basically stock. Does have gel seat, 14 tooth front.. Ordered FMF exhaust, ProCycle jet kit, and a heavier rear spring this morning. Look forward to hanging around here some more and hopefully meeting up with some on the road/trail.



Nice. Congrats on the new DR! You will love it! Where is the second pic you showed taken? I live in Santa Fe and am always looking for new places to ride. Enjoy the new bike and look forward to seeing you on here...
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