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Old 06-07-2012, 10:36 PM   #65581
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I wish Suzuki would just build this thing. They already have a 650 V twin, just need to manufacture an aluminum frame and use DRZ SM wheels and suspension parts to tie it all together.





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I like the idea of a Japanese Dorsoduro.
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Old 06-07-2012, 10:48 PM   #65582
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Yeah...dream on.

Unfortunately, Suzuki seem to quite satisfied with the market share they have and aren't interested in appealing to 10% of that share who want something better/different.

I think the DR650 being unchanged for the last 16 years qualifies that statement as true.

I am convinced that having 3 simple versions of the DR, like the DRZ range, would be a huge winner for them. But they see it as taking away from other models that make more money.

Some of the people that buy the V-strom now at $14k here, would switch to a Motard or Adventure spec DR at $9k given the chance. Similarly, some who buy the DRZ at $9.5 currently would switch to a trail version of the DR at similar price.

They seem to regard the existing line up as enough, and our desires are mere "wants" versus "needs".

Any change to the range would see the DR priced to reflect the sales it takes away from other models in the line up. Without the price advantage the DR doesn't look quite as good as it does now.


I'd like to see a proper off road spec version of my BMW F800GS. The reality is that 95% of them don't see the off road work I do, so it's a pipe dream. I'll just have to build what I want.
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I like the idea of a Japanese Dorsoduro.
Me too, I'd like to see an offering from all four! Talk about a pipe dream

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Hey, TrophyHunter...you're welcome.
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Old 06-08-2012, 01:13 AM   #65583
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Oh great.

Now you've got me thinking.

If I had a steel trellis frame version I could graft on any rear end I want from the Suzuki range - to keep it pure Suzuki.



I'm sure I'm going to live to regret this. To eBay...
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Old 06-08-2012, 05:54 AM   #65584
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DR doing what it should, chasing KTM 525s pity i tiered before the 650 , i'd been eating them all day though

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:09 AM   #65585
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dr650 surge?

dr 650 surge
Has anyone else experienced a bad surging while at sustained speeds using 1/4 throttle? Currently have stock carb with procycle jet kit, slide drilled, largest main jet clip on 4th groove, airbox mod, and about to install a new exhaust. I've tried adjusting the fuel mixture multiple times, but cant get the surge to go away.

If anyone has experienced this and knows what's causing it, or how to fix it, please let me know.
I started a seperate thread about it, please respond on http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=797944

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Old 06-08-2012, 06:45 AM   #65586
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CCT Fix Question

My CCT gasket has started leakig. Time to do the permatex fix but I need one key piece of information first. How do you determine compression stroke TDC?
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:33 AM   #65587
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Some nice trails there, Phil.
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:33 AM   #65588
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My CCT gasket has started leakig. Time to do the permatex fix but I need one key piece of information first. How do you determine compression stroke TDC?
Yes, well... if you've adjusted the valves before then you have it. If not, read up on how.

Remove side covers, seat, fuel tank and air hose out the spark plug holes and any mud/dirt on the valve covers.

Remove a spark plug for easier turning of engine. Remove the valve covers to watch the rockers go up and down when the engine is turned.

Remove the inspection covers on the left engine cover with your allen wrench to see the timing mark (front cap) and turn the engine CCW direction using a socket wrench (side cap).

When the "T" mark is centered in the front hole and both rocker arms sit still but have a little wiggle... that is TDC on compression stroke.

Now you can begin removing the oil lines and the CCT. I did that gasket replacement with the exhaust still intact. A little slower, but less work. Hope you have a service manual to help you along the way.

See this link: http://advrider.com/forums/showthrea...5295&page=2639
page 2639 and 2640... and several pages either direction

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Old 06-08-2012, 07:34 AM   #65589
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I like the idea of a Japanese Dorsoduro.
The Versys is the Japanese DD!
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:35 AM   #65590
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Airbox replacement?

i have looked here and on several other sites for a alternative to my airbox.i have had my carb off several times
since i got the bike last month and it is a bitch for me to get the thing back in? are there any aftermarket filters pods like K,N or others that will replace my airbox? anyone tried this or know of any experiences with this?
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:45 AM   #65591
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dr 650 surge
Has anyone else experienced a bad surging while at sustained speeds using 1/4 throttle? Currently have stock carb with procycle jet kit, slide drilled, largest main jet clip on 4th groove, airbox mod, and about to install a new exhaust. I've tried adjusting the fuel mixture multiple times, but cant get the surge to go away.
Mixture at steady 1/4 throttle is controlled by the needle. Raise the needle (lower the clip).
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Old 06-08-2012, 07:47 AM   #65592
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The Versys is the Japanese DD!
Nothing against the Versys -- I might even buy one someday. But I think the Versys is rather fugly compared to the DD, and I'd rather have a v-twin than a parallel twin. One noteworthy advantage of the Versys over the DRV is that the Versys exists.
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Old 06-08-2012, 08:13 AM   #65593
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Speaking of needles...when the instructions say to install the needle clip at, for example, position 4 - does this mean four counting from the top down or is it the other way around?
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Old 06-08-2012, 09:23 AM   #65594
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Nothing against the Versys -- I might even buy one someday. But I think the Versys is rather fugly compared to the DD, and I'd rather have a v-twin than a parallel twin. One noteworthy advantage of the Versys over the DRV is that the Versys exists.
one noteworthy adwantage of the dorsoduro is that it exists! why not simply get the real thing. if i actually had the room and the money, i'd be hard-pressed to choose between it and an sxv550. the dd is not high strung at all, a nice reliable bike. suzuki had the sv650 & sv1000; too bad they are no more. they are sweet, especially w/a gsxr front end installed...

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Old 06-08-2012, 09:40 AM   #65595
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Some nice trails there, Phil.
Cheers TH , we had 4 days in the Spanish pyrennes great fun , but broke two bones in my foot on the 3rd day getting my boot back on for a 400 km ride home stung a little !!!! but i'll be back

R and R for anyone interested http://www.bikeclubfrance.com//viewt...hp?f=60&t=9094
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