ADVrider

Go Back   ADVrider > Bikes > Thumpers
User Name
Password
Register Inmates Photos Site Rules Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 11-11-2012, 04:22 PM   #70906
neo1piv014
ADV in training
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Oddometer: 619
Starting problems

So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
__________________
_________________________
Ride videos
'01 DR650
"The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks."
neo1piv014 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 04:39 PM   #70907
mrprez
KJ4WMZ
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Location: Mobile, Al
Oddometer: 1,265
Quote:
Originally Posted by neo1piv014 View Post
So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
What is the position of the side stand? Does your neutral light work?
__________________
Sent via morse code
..-. -.-- ..-. ..-.
mrprez is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 04:43 PM   #70908
Kommando
Grumpy Young Man
 
Kommando's Avatar
 
Joined: Nov 2006
Location: Spacecoaster FL
Oddometer: 7,065
Quote:
Originally Posted by neo1piv014 View Post
So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
Yeah, I'd bypass the safety switches on the clutch and sidestand. If that doesn't fix it, take a look inside your starter button. It's very simple inside. It might just be dirty contacts.

Are your lights coming on with the key turned? If not, you may have an issue with your battery cables or keyswitch.
Kommando is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 07:58 PM   #70909
poppawheelie
Studly Adventurer
 
poppawheelie's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Oddometer: 546
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albie View Post
You can still go ahead and get the front Tubliss set up, Myself, most of my flats have been pinch flats up front with tubes. Since switching over to the Tubliss set up on my KTM 450 I've only had one flat in 3.5 years and I actually rode 70 miles at 60 MPH back home to fix it. Got a front setup I plan on putting on my DR when I change the tire.
Thanks for the good words on Tubliss. If I didn't have three good 17" tires setting around for the rear, I'd consider converting to an 18" rear wheel.
__________________
"To me the trail is calling! The old trail - the trail that is always new." Matthew Alexander Henson

"It's not the destination. It's the journey." Me
poppawheelie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 08:02 PM   #70910
Emmbeedee
Procrastinators
 
Emmbeedee's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Location: Near Ottawa, ON, Canada
Oddometer: 9,269
Quote:
Originally Posted by JagLite View Post
Which reminds me, I am searching for a BSA B50 rear wheel if anyone has one....
Friend of ours who let us try this out today has a number of BSA/Triumph/CCM singles. He might have a spare.

__________________
Want to know more about the Garmin Montana? See the Wisdom and FAQ Thread.
Want to know more about the Garmin VIRB? See here.
"The motorcycle, being poorly designed for both flight and marine operation, sustained significant external and internal damage," police noted.
Emmbeedee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 08:05 PM   #70911
poppawheelie
Studly Adventurer
 
poppawheelie's Avatar
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Central Pennsylvania
Oddometer: 546
Quote:
Originally Posted by lamotovita View Post
Any bicycle shop will sell you a small high pressure (low volume) pump for a few bucks.
Bicycle tools, including pumps, have become extremely good for little money. It's like the accessory manufacturers have had a contest to see who can make the best quality, light weight stuff for a low price. Competition is keen in the bicycle world. Many quality pumps out there, fold up small but can do 150psi, for not much $$. Just buy a brand name.
__________________
"To me the trail is calling! The old trail - the trail that is always new." Matthew Alexander Henson

"It's not the destination. It's the journey." Me
poppawheelie is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-11-2012, 09:15 PM   #70912
neo1piv014
ADV in training
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Oddometer: 619
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrprez View Post
What is the position of the side stand? Does your neutral light work?
Side stand being up or down doesn't seem to make a difference. I usually notice it in the mornings when I'm trying to start the bike to let it warm up, but it happens plenty of times when I've just turned off the bike for a minute while talking with someone. The neutral light does work, yes.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Kommando View Post
Yeah, I'd bypass the safety switches on the clutch and sidestand. If that doesn't fix it, take a look inside your starter button. It's very simple inside. It might just be dirty contacts.

Are your lights coming on with the key turned? If not, you may have an issue with your battery cables or keyswitch.
I'll look up some how-to's on ditching those safety switches. I don't believe I've yet even tried to take off on a bike with the side stand down, so that's probably okay to ditch at this point. All the lights and everything fire right up with the key, and if it helps, I've also replaced the battery within the last month, and that didn't seem to make any difference.

Honestly, all of the switchgear on my bike needs a thorough cleaning or something. The turn signal switch is...gummy I guess. It sticks a lot and takes a few tries to cancel. The horn works once a week or so, and the kill switch doesn't like to pop back out once pressed in. Some electrical grease and an afternoon might be the cure for what ails me this time.
__________________
_________________________
Ride videos
'01 DR650
"The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks."
neo1piv014 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 12:36 AM   #70913
Chill
Gnarly Adventurer
 
Chill's Avatar
 
Joined: Aug 2012
Location: QLD Australia
Oddometer: 303
Quote:
Originally Posted by neo1piv014 View Post
Honestly, all of the switchgear on my bike needs a thorough cleaning or something... gummy... It sticks a lot... takes a few tries to cancel... The horn works once a week or so... the kill switch doesn't like to pop back out once pressed in...
I think you've answered your own question there,
Chill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 04:34 AM   #70914
Sierra Thumper
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Oct 2012
Oddometer: 641
Laugh WD-40 is your friend

Quote:
Originally Posted by neo1piv014 View Post
So, I have an interesting issue that's been plaguing me since I bought the bike. I'm having a problem getting the bike to start. I'll push the starter button with the key in and on. The clutch is in, the bike is in neutral, etc, but nothing happens. It doesn't even try to turn over. I'll press the button a few times, try turning the key on and off, and eventually, it'll start cranking and fire right up. I don't know if there's a short somewhere, but this seems fairly random. It doesn't seem to matter if the bike is really cold, been running for hours, or anything in between. It's a moderate inconvenience at this point, but if I stalled out in an intersection, it might be a bit more of an issue. Anyone else had this happen?
If you want to try the real lazymans approach first......squirt some WD-40 into all the switches and work them....the side stand switch, clutch switch, ignition switch, starter button, kill switch etc. Its a good habit to get into, and you'd be amazed what that will fix. I've did it MANY times over the years to switches on my bikes and others that were acting up, and they lasted forever afterwards. It also keeps switches working well if done on a regular basis.....which reminds me, I need to give some of my switches their annual spray
__________________
"Don't get so concerned with the slab that you choose a turd for the dirt"- The Gospel as spoken by itrack
Sierra Thumper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 05:59 AM   #70915
dljocky
Studly Adventurer
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Location: Yorktown, Va
Oddometer: 849
I did this with my horn button. It wasn't working, I sprayed some WD-40 into the horn button, and it's been working for the past 8 months.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sierra Thumper View Post
If you want to try the real lazymans approach first......squirt some WD-40 into all the switches and work them....the side stand switch, clutch switch, ignition switch, starter button, kill switch etc. Its a good habit to get into, and you'd be amazed what that will fix. I've did it MANY times over the years to switches on my bikes and others that were acting up, and they lasted forever afterwards. It also keeps switches working well if done on a regular basis.....which reminds me, I need to give some of my switches their annual spray
dljocky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 07:33 AM   #70916
Rusty Rocket
Life behind "Bars"
 
Rusty Rocket's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Trying to leave CT
Oddometer: 8,732
The people here seem to know more about ADVRider site than most, so I'll ask:

Does anyone remember a post somewhere on ADVRider that compares weights of different dualsport bikes?
__________________
In the beginning, there was nothing. Even That exploded
2009 DR650
..1972 Penton Six-Days ..1971 Suzuki TS185.. 2005 KTM 400exc
Member of: AMA, NETRA, Blue Ribbon Coalition, CCCofVT, Berkshire TR, CT Ramblers
Rusty Rocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 07:34 AM   #70917
Albie
Kool Aid poisoner
 
Albie's Avatar
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Location: NWA
Oddometer: 9,066
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Rocket View Post
A friend bought a used KTM 400 with a Tubliss set up, front and rear. The problem with it, is that you have to air up every time you go riding. The 100 psi sealing ring leaks down after a day or so. Try finding a 100psi hose on an adventure camping ride. It's really for offroad competition IMO, to prevent tubes getting pinch flats in a race.

He took them off the bike in less than a month.
I have to air mine up about as often as I do my tubed bikes. I use the same MTN bike pump on my Tubliss bladder as I do on my tubed tires. Don't need a 100 PSI hose.
__________________
Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.

Another day, another foot injury!
Albie is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 07:56 AM   #70918
Rusty Rocket
Life behind "Bars"
 
Rusty Rocket's Avatar
 
Joined: Dec 2005
Location: Trying to leave CT
Oddometer: 8,732
Quote:
Originally Posted by Albie View Post
I have to air mine up about as often as I do my tubed bikes. I use the same MTN bike pump on my Tubliss bladder as I do on my tubed tires. Don't need a 100 PSI hose.
I wonder if his had a problem. He's the only person that I ever knew who had them.

He got the with a used bike and he figured that was how they were.

This is a good time to ask, what is a good, reasonably priced compact tire pump that can be carried in a tool pack. My old "Double Shot" is. well: Shot.
__________________
In the beginning, there was nothing. Even That exploded
2009 DR650
..1972 Penton Six-Days ..1971 Suzuki TS185.. 2005 KTM 400exc
Member of: AMA, NETRA, Blue Ribbon Coalition, CCCofVT, Berkshire TR, CT Ramblers
Rusty Rocket is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 08:00 AM   #70919
neo1piv014
ADV in training
 
Joined: Aug 2011
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Oddometer: 619
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sierra Thumper View Post
If you want to try the real lazymans approach first......squirt some WD-40 into all the switches and work them....the side stand switch, clutch switch, ignition switch, starter button, kill switch etc. Its a good habit to get into, and you'd be amazed what that will fix. I've did it MANY times over the years to switches on my bikes and others that were acting up, and they lasted forever afterwards. It also keeps switches working well if done on a regular basis.....which reminds me, I need to give some of my switches their annual spray
Sounds like my kind of plan there. To the garage!
__________________
_________________________
Ride videos
'01 DR650
"The impossible often has a kind of integrity which the merely improbable lacks."
neo1piv014 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-12-2012, 08:24 AM   #70920
lamotovita
Ageing Adventurer
 
lamotovita's Avatar
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Location: WA/AZ, USA
Oddometer: 1,429
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rusty Rocket View Post
I wonder if his had a problem. He's the only person that I ever knew who had them.

He got the with a used bike and he figured that was how they were.

This is a good time to ask, what is a good, reasonably priced compact tire pump that can be carried in a tool pack. My old "Double Shot" is. well: Shot.
I got this one last year. It's the best I've found.
http://www.lezyne.com/products/hand-...e#!Alloy-Drive
__________________
Beaten paths are for beaten men.
lamotovita is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply

Share

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

.
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


Times are GMT -7.   It's 06:47 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ADVrider 2011-2014