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Old 12-04-2012, 06:32 PM   #71596
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I enjoy Mine . nice shape have a decent reach so I am not always looking at my elbow. fold out of the way or removed with little trouble
I also like that they're durable, and if the bike goes down, they'll fold inward by themselves before breaking.

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Old 12-04-2012, 07:00 PM   #71597
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Well, I've never read such a warning to not stop hard, or I've never paid attention to it.

I think you hit your 'cure' on the head and didn't realize it when you wrote about "bedding in." Why wouldn't anyone bed-in their new brake pads on their bikes like we all do (or should be doing) with our cars and trucks?

In a controlled environment, go through a brake pad bed-in process (there are different combinations of speeds and slowings, but they all work out to be the same), and be sure to then let the brakes cool down without stopping.

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Back when I was a dealer for Sherco, Gas Gas and Montesa trials bikes, we'd bed in the brakes by riding around the shop while dragging the brakes to get them good and hot. Then we'd hit them with cold water from a hose and repeat it a few times. We learn this trick from several national champs we had in for trials schools.

We'd go from barely slowly down to doing stoppies in just a few minutes. I remember one time I was doing the riding and my business parter was manning the hose. We'd got them perfect just in time for the new bikes owner to roll in, and my buddy got pissed because he thought I was pushing it on the angle.

He didn't want me to go over the bars while the guy was standing there with a stack of cash and dick up the sale.

It's not like I had done that before,,,,

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Old 12-04-2012, 08:26 PM   #71598
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My bike has been feeling rather rough lately. It's hard to peg down, but it just feels like everything is..well, rough. I'm planning on trying to smooth things out over the winter holidays so here's my projected list of upgrades:
- Wheel bearings (wheels don't want to spin very well and make an odd noise)
If you can feel and hear your wheel bearings, you need to find out why.
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- Cush drive rubbers (again, rough shifting and harsh throttle jerk)
If they're originals, time to replace.
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- Carb rebuild (a lot of surging, and I know for sure that my pilot needle is a bit bent)


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None of it looks terribly difficult, though I haven't ever done wheel bearings before. Is there anything I should keep an eye out for there?
Wheel bearings are a snap, I spend more time whining about it than it takes me to do it. Here's how: (trailer bearings work the same, but there's no spacer to move out of the way)

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...6&postcount=83

I like the quality of the stock wheel bearings, but they're only sealed on one side. Here's how to fix that if you decide to use the OEM bearings.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=81
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:35 PM   #71599
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Thanks for all the replies - bike is pretty new (2005 with 1K miles), so I seriously doubt they are work out. Maybe I will give cleaning a try before I buy anything new. I ride to work in pretty much any weather, so they get wet a lot. Perhaps a good cleaning will help before I start buying stuff.
For wet riding, a genius came up with this solution, I copied it and added o-rings.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...5&postcount=22
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Old 12-04-2012, 08:47 PM   #71600
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Crap. I need some advice guys. I'm not terribly savvy when it comes to engines.... My 09 with roughly 9k miles now has oil in the area of the valve cover/plugs. Today, after the bike has sat for a month and a half while I was at work, I wiped the oil off the surfaces I could get to with a rag (it was kind of "caked" lightly) and realized the outside bases of the plug caps were glistening! Popped the wires off (end of the plug looked fine) and wiped off the outside of the plug wire cap ends. Put em back on, started her up, and while bending over to look at the plug wires while sitting on the bike (choke now half on), I smelled burning oil very slightly. Figured it was oil burning off of some exterior surface as the cylinder head heated up or something but I was alarmed as I've never smelled anything like that before. As I was looking around, I noticed the faintest little wisp of smoke coming from somewhere around where my headpipe goes into the head. Then it stopped, and so did the smell. Rode it about 5 miles. Seemed like it didn't have as much grunt (subtle) but would still pull ok when 3000 rpms and above. Since the interior plug had more oil on it, I wonder if that plug loosened? Another thought I had was that after a low speed drop on the left side a couple months ago before I left, the motor was still running. I shut it off after gingerly getting up, and then picked up the bike. Could running while on it's side cause the external oil leak? After the drop, I started it up and rode super easy downhill for maybe 20 seconds until finding a flat spot to park and check out my injuries. Shut off the bike and it probably sat for 5 minutes. Was that enough to not damage the rings? I just googled oil on plug, and (of course) scared the crap out of myself reading internet reports of blown valve seat seals or rings...
Any ideas will be appreciated guys. Bear in mind, I am NOT a mechanic, but reasonably "switched on.". Thank you in advance for your time..
You mean this? Did you try to snug the plugs tighter (don't go ape on them, just snug 'em a little). Mine were looser than they should have been. Just remember that there's a load of doo-doo in the plug wells, don't pull them without cleaning the super hard sand and gravel bits outta there.

Dropping the bike didn't hurt it.

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Old 12-04-2012, 08:51 PM   #71601
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My doubletakes seem to work well. Not as heavy as the stockers so the image is a little blurred, but I can see enough.

Plus.............
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Old 12-04-2012, 09:33 PM   #71602
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mine leaks a small amount there. that's a very hot part of the motor.
spray it down real good simple green or orange peel degreaser, let it sit for a few minutes and scrub down with old tooth brush. i use this tool to easily clean http://www.performancebike.com/bikes...29&cagpspn=pla
and then spray it down. at this point it's clean and you can watch for leaks.
baby power on the area helps point out the exact area. my leak is so small i just clean the top of the motor every so often and call it good.


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You mean this? Did you try to snug the plugs tighter (don't go ape on them, just snug 'em a little). Mine were looser than they should have been. Just remember that there's a load of doo-doo in the plug wells, don't pull them without cleaning the super hard sand and gravel bits outta there.

Dropping the bike didn't hurt it.

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Old 12-04-2012, 09:36 PM   #71603
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I use a doubletake just on the legally required left side.
I like that the whole thing comes off, except for the mount ball, when riding off-road. I had one of these laying around and I helps
http://www.klr650.com/MrVibIso.htm
my mirror is solid enough to see behind when at speed.

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My doubletakes seem to work well. Not as heavy as the stockers so the image is a little blurred, but I can see enough.

Plus.............
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Old 12-04-2012, 10:40 PM   #71604
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Still thinking about Julian pie.
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Old 12-05-2012, 05:17 AM   #71605
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Interesting read. Thanks for pointing it out. Here's a link:

http://www.mcnews.com/mcn/technical/Nov2012Tech.pdf

Has anyone here experimented with this? It looks pretty interesting and I'm considering taking a shot at it. (After I get my front suspension sorted so it will handle better, or any, braking).
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Old 12-05-2012, 06:33 AM   #71606
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12K is typical life for the stock OEM DID "O" chain on the DR. A higher spec X ring DID chain will go much further. (25K miles if you change front sprocket at around 10K)
Thankfully, those are fairly cheap, so I'll get that taken care of soon.

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A lose shift lever will move all over, but mostly up and down. This is a very common thing most owners never even notice. First, remove plastic inspection cover. Get down on your knees ... now wiggle the lever. Is there any free movement where the main shift shaft is not being moved? You can SEE THIS ... if you look.
It definitely had some wiggle to it. When the bike was in neutral, I can just flick the lever and have it bounce a bit.

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See that Bolt in front of you? It goes through the lever. Tighten it up.
If really bad ... remove lever and use a Disc grinder to widen the slot ... or buy a new lever. I've gone through 3 levers and 3 bolts. Dirt bike Boots are hard on the shift lever.
My bike mostly gets street use, so I hope I'm not to hard on her, but I'll check out that bolt tonight after work.

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If you can feel and hear your wheel bearings, you need to find out why.
If they're originals, time to replace.
I don't know for sure that it's my bearings I'm hearing. I just know that my wheels don't spin smoothly at all and that it's something I was able to notice even after removing the brake caliper. Since I didn't see them rubbing on anything, I assumed the bearings were just due up for replacement.

And by bent pilot needle, I mean there's a noticeable curve in the needle on the last 1/3 of it all the way down to the tip. I have no damn idea what happened there as I've never had to force it in any way, but I'd put money on that being part of my fueling problems.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:23 AM   #71607
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I can't quite tell in the pic... Is that the standard ball mount on the handlebar like this ?

http://www.dualsportarmory.com/produ...76&item_id=708

I was looking at my bike this AM and wondering how to squeeze in the mounts.

Oh wait... I'm an idiot. You're just using this in the spot where the stock mirror mounts, right?

http://www.dualsportarmory.com/produ...76&item_id=706

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My doubletakes seem to work well. Not as heavy as the stockers so the image is a little blurred, but I can see enough.

Plus.............
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:35 AM   #71608
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Crap. I need some advice guys. I'm not ter ribly savvy when it comes to engines.... My 09 with roughly 9k miles now has oil in the area of the valve cover/plugs. Pretty even coverage on the top of the cylinder cover where the plugs go in...so it's been hard to figure out where it's coming from.
The cam chain tensioner gasket is a common oil leak point, and you'd be surprised how much of the engine gets a light film of oil when the CCT gasket fails. Must be blown around by the wind when riding. My DR had similar "coverage" as yours, and I replaced the rocker cover o-rings before figuring out that it was the CCT (thanks to this thread). I didn't use an OEM gasket (since it would likely fail anyway) -- just Permatex Ultra Black. The hardest part was scraping off the old gasket.
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Old 12-05-2012, 07:45 AM   #71609
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I use a doubletake just on the legally required left side.
I like that the whole thing comes off, except for the mount ball, when riding off-road. I had one of these laying around and I helps
http://www.klr650.com/MrVibIso.htm
my mirror is solid enough to see behind when at speed.
That's for GB,Aussie,NZ,Sth African,Japanese and Indian beer only......you Yanks have
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Old 12-05-2012, 08:01 AM   #71610
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Chromesux, eakins, ER70S-2, sagebrushocean...
Thanks so much guys. I know the DR is an anvil. That's why it's the perfect bike for me. 'Cause I suck at this stuff. But I'm trying. Thanks for taking the time. I love this board for how we all try to help each other. I seriously couldn't put a dollar amount on how valuable the advice I've gotten so far has been to me!
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