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Old 12-19-2012, 10:59 AM   #72031
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Finally, you can switch to 14-45. This is if things get steep and really hairy. The DR will climb like a goat and engine-brake like crazy down a hill, and you will be able to crawl very well.

This sounds good to me, and I might run this setup on my Alaska trip next year. Id prolly run 15-45 95% of the time, with 16-45 for the few freeway backtrack stints I have planned and 14-45 for colorado.
Great summation of the gearing issue! The beauty is a rider can carry all three of the front sprockets with him and change them roadside as required.
(I had forgotten Jesse offered a 45T rear sprocket in 525 size!)
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Old 12-19-2012, 11:12 AM   #72032
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You don't have oil for your main air filter? Or maybe you are using motor oil on that as well. The problem with motor oil as opposed to proper air filter oil is it tends to drain out the lowest point of the filter so the filter has to be serviced more often.
In any case, I'm sure you could use motor oil on the secondary filter without getting any oil significant amount of oil into the top of the carb.
I use a small amount of Foam Filter oil on that little filter (sticky and does not run down like motor oil) ... and I also wrap a scrap piece of
"Filter Skin" around it. This way you can see when its dirty ... and either pull off Filter Skin and put on another piece ... or just pull it off and go. The Filter underneath is still nice and clean. Extends your range in super dusty conditions a bit.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:04 PM   #72033
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Was browsing ideas to mount more switches. Came across this youtube vid. Thought i'd share. Is this bike belonged to someone here?

Sweet job.
http://youtu.be/gvQLjjlxc40

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:40 PM   #72034
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There is a reply that says someone's name is Bultaco ?

It may be Bultaco206 since he owned a DR650, but I haven't checked the other 12 or so Bultaco guys. http://advrider.com/forums/memberlis...ltr=B&page=516

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Was browsing ideas to mount more switches. Came across this youtube vid. Thought i'd share. Is this bike belonged to someone here?

Sweet job.
http://youtu.be/gvQLjjlxc40

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:51 PM   #72035
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"Penny Wise, Pound Foolish" ??? 'Ya heard of that one?
Sure, a 520 kit is cheaper than a 525. If you're into your DR for a few weekends a year ... then all good, go for it.

But if you plan to cover some miles over years then the 525 is better value.
Now ... if you use your DR650 for doing serious off road then the 520 is maybe a better way to go. Lower gearing options with the 520. But make no mistake, a 525 set last longer.

As time goes by more and more sprocket choices are becoming available in the 525 size. Check with Jesse at Keintech or Pro Cycle. Both have some options last I checked.

19K miles is really good ... if you're talking about a stock chain/sprockets.
My stock chain only went to 14K miles. You must be doing something right!

I would shop around ... but buy the DID 525 X ring VX or VM2 chain.
I like Suzuki OEM sprockets best ... but if you want lower gearing then you'll have to use other brands like JT, PBI, Sunstar or what ever (be careful of "whatever" ).

I have done over 24K miles on the 525 VM2 DID X Ring chain. I switch
front sprockets about every 8K miles. Allows chain long long life.
The hunky DID X ring chains are nearly maintenance free ... and never need adjustment.

Go with cheap, off brand chains and sprockets at your peril.

New Cush Drive rubbers are a good idea ... at least every 20K miles.
ALSO ... Check out your rubber swing arm chain slider while you're at it, especially near main swing arm bolt. If worn ... change it for a new one.

Have fun!
That all sounds good,but. I put a decent quality set of 520 chain/sprockets on my DR and they have about 14000 on them and still look great,thats with hammering the bike in some dual purpose rides where it had no business . Ive adjusted it maybe twice? Quality being the key word here.

If there was some sort of problem on a trip and you have to buy a chain or masterlink,520 is at every shop. 525 is not.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:55 PM   #72036
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Derek, pulled the top off the carb and you were right. compleatly coated in dust. ive got a unifilter installed on the hose that goes to the top of the carb but it looks like a few hundred kms of the talcum powder that makes up the logging road surfaces in borneo just went straight through the unifilter and into the carb............
This has worked well for me, but I don't ride in extreme dust conditions. Even when completely dirty, there is no dust in the tube, or top of carb. It's easily cleaned and re-oiled. Idea by Rusty Rocket.

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Old 12-19-2012, 02:58 PM   #72037
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Was browsing ideas to mount more switches. Came across this youtube vid. Thought i'd share. Is this bike belonged to someone here?

Sweet job.
http://youtu.be/gvQLjjlxc40

(tried to embed but doesn't work)

The bike belonged to to Curtis at the time of vid. He bought it from one of the other guys (Will) in the vid.

The bike now resides in my garage, I bought it from Curtis.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:12 PM   #72038
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Not long ago I posted here about the fancy new Ballistic Battery Lithium-Ion battery I put in my FZ1 and how I wanted one for my other bikes. My opinion on that has now changed.

These batteries have one major flaw -- temperature. Sure, other batteries are affected by it too, but My FZ1 has gotten progressively harder to start in cold weather since getting that battery. To the point that it wouldn't start at all last Thursday. I rode the DR650 instead, which fired right up. I've ordered a new regular-type battery for the FZ1 and will move the Ballistic to my little KLX250S. I figure the battery should have no trouble starting that motor, and I don't ride it in super cold weather anyway. Plus on that bike, the weight savings will be most worthwhile.

Now, part of the problem might be that I think the 8-cell unit is undersized for a 1000cc sportbike, but that's all that will fit in it. They list the 8-cell as being the right battery for the DR650 too, but there's room to fit the 12-cell in there, which is what I would do IF I were to get one for it. Likewise, they list the 4-cell for the KLX250S, but the 8-cell is still smaller than its stock battery, so I'd use the 8-cell in it anyway.

But what really ruined it for me was early last week when I left a traffic light and stalled the bike (new gloves, wasn't used to 'em yet)... normally just grab the clutch, hit the starter, and keep going. Nope. Wouldn't even turn over. I had to pull over and try several times before it'd fire. Screw that. I don't need that happening in traffic.

So save yourselves some trouble and stick with real batteries until battery technology improves some more.

Rob
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Is the battery in question like the new Shorai Lithium-Iron (not Ion) batteries we hear so much about? The Shorai batts need to "warm up" from what I've read ... and actually come to life once other accessories are used. The battery actually gets stronger after some discharging. Weird.
Lithium-Ion uses a different technology to Lithium-Iron from what I understand ... but DON'T ask me to explain either right now. I do believe that
Lithium-Ion batts like to be maintained at 100% all the time. Not so much with Lithium-Iron.

I'm really surprised you DR charging system did not bring you batt back up to usable power just from running around. I've run stock batteries dead a couple times (too many accessories running with stock 55W headlight on). On both occasions just running 20 minutes with accessories OFF brought batt right back up and bike started perfectly.

Got to love Japanese electrics!

I am leaning towards the Japanese made Shorai. But I will wait a while yet ... maybe for the 2nd generation of this technology.
I've tried two Shorai's and won't be using any new tech batteries anymore. I had a Shorai in my CBF1000 and like Rob it wouldn't start the bike on cold mornings and cold meaning 50F in the morning in AZ. The last thing I thought I had to worry about last winter in AZ was my frigging battery. Battery died in my wife's DR200 so I put a new Shorai in that. We were on a tough dual sport ride with lots of starts/stops and the battery died and the bike needed to be bump started for the final day and all the way home. A few times with the battery fully charged, after a brief stop the bike would be completely dead, necessitating a bump start and then behave normally for the rest of the ride. And no it wasn't just a loose connection. Bikes been running fine with a good old lead acid battery back in it. Good article on the new batteries here, very technical but sill a good read...
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=770364
Bottom line is I don't think these batteries are ready for dual sporting, at least for me.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:22 PM   #72039
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The bike belonged to to Curtis at the time of vid. He bought it from one of the other guys (Will) in the vid.

The bike now resides in my garage, I bought it from Curtis.
Thanks for replying!

I think hat a few of us would like to see is how that dash was built.

Do you ever take it off, and could you take pictures of it?

He did a great job.
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Old 12-19-2012, 04:00 PM   #72040
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Thanks for replying!

I think hat a few of us would like to see is how that dash was built.

Do you ever take it off, and could you take pictures of it?

He did a great job.

I like it also, gives you a little more room.

I did have it off and modified it a little. I cut the top plate to mount the speedo and the key switch back in the original place so I could use the sterring lock and the speedo is straight now.

It is a good idea and pretty simple to make with some flat alu. plate and some alu. angle. I can take some pictures later.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:41 PM   #72041
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That all sounds good,but. I put a decent quality set of 520 chain/sprockets on my DR and they have about 14000 on them and still look great,thats with hammering the bike in some dual purpose rides where it had no business . Ive adjusted it maybe twice? Quality being the key word here.

If there was some sort of problem on a trip and you have to buy a chain or masterlink,520 is at every shop. 525 is not.
Sounds good. And quality really is the KEY word! What sort of chain did you go with? The new 520 DID VX, X ring chains look good. First year DID made X ring in 520 sizes.

Its true, 520 sizes are more common not only in the USA but in Latin America too. Thing is ... if I'm going to South America, I would start with ALL new chain/sprockets and carrying spare set of sprockets on board:
(I rear, 3 front).

With luck that gets you all the way to Tierra del Fuego and part way back home. (25,000 miles) More and more MC shops down South catering to ADV riders.
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:43 PM   #72042
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Pictures would be great. That's a sweet bike and sweet setup
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Old 12-19-2012, 06:49 PM   #72043
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"Penny Wise, Pound Foolish" ???
How about Pennywise - Perfect People?

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Old 12-19-2012, 06:53 PM   #72044
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Bottom line is I don't think these batteries are ready for dual sporting, at least for me.
Thanks for the First Person comments. WoW! By now I've read quite a few problem reports with these batteries. In some cases the batt was faulty and Shorai replaced it free. But if problems are common then might be best to hold off at least until next generation.

I think we will get there on this type of battery ... eventually!
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Old 12-19-2012, 07:01 PM   #72045
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DisTech rocks!! And so do the tunes.
Glad to see that you're still checkin' in. Your earlier DR posts showed me how to contribute to the thread.
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