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Old 01-20-2013, 10:35 AM   #73051
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I have only recently purchased my bike so I was wondering what maintenance stand would suit me best for general tinkering.

I picked this up from Supercheap for $149 and I think it works well









It made the chain adjustment and lube really straightforward. It was easy to spin the bike and move it around as needed.

I also took off my frame guards and cleaned up under there. It was filthy as and well worth the effort. I had also taken off and cleaned up my bash plate when I did the oil change - again well worth it. I have put a zip tie on my side stand switch and that saves some hassle - the side stand pivot has been cleaned and lubed, too.

I worked out what chain and sprockets the PO had installed. It turned out to be a 525 with 14F and 41R. I am thinking of going for a 42R and a 15F and 16F to cover the options. What do you think?

Anyone else got a different fave workshop stand?

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:02 PM   #73052
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Sweet looking ride and I love the low front fender. Wait a minute, an English wheel in the background..........Did someone say talent?
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Old 01-20-2013, 12:26 PM   #73053
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With about 7500 miles on the beast today I changed out the rear and front brake fluid.

Here is about the first inch-worth's of fluid coming out of the front...
Hope I put newer fluid in it in time to prevent the front from seizing up too soon.

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:29 PM   #73054
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I've taken flak for the fender & a lot of stuff I built for my DR, but I don't give a shit it's the way I like it

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Old 01-20-2013, 12:56 PM   #73055
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Old 01-20-2013, 01:04 PM   #73056
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I may have gone a bit too stiff with the springs (.70 front and 8.1 rear), I'm still figuring it out. It's a relatively stiff ride, but the fact that it doesn't bounce around on wash board is phenom.
.70 front?

That would be a stiff ride...
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:02 PM   #73057
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.70 front?

That would be a stiff ride...
Could be. I went slightly less than Race Tech recommends and the guy that set up my suspension mentioned the stiffness of the springs, but he followed up by saying that he thought I was right to put in significantly stiffer springs. He said many of the people who bring him suspension work refuse to believe they should be running spring rates as high as they should, so they change the compression/rebound and run springs too soft for the weight they are running (either their body weight or how the pack the bike), or their style of riding. So, bottom line is I figured the springs are pretty cheap and I might as well use Race Tech's recommendations as a starting point. I'm not sure it's right or will be over time, but with the small amount of riding I've been able to do since yesterday, the bike feels very well balanced over rougher terrain. It definitely feels like the front and rear are working together as opposed to feeling front and rear separately (I used to feel the front and then the rear when going over terrain; whereas, it now feels like one fluid movement). I think the rebound is much much better.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:03 PM   #73058
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.70 front?

That would be a stiff ride...
Racetech changed their spring calculator a while back and it shows a lot stiffer fork springs than it used to. I just tried it a minute ago and it recommends .72 for the front and 7.9 for the rear for my 195 pounds. I have had .50 in the front and 8.1 on the back for a few years now.
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Old 01-20-2013, 02:37 PM   #73059
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Racetech changed their spring calculator a while back and it shows a lot stiffer fork springs than it used to. I just tried it a minute ago and it recommends .72 for the front and 7.9 for the rear for my 195 pounds. I have had .50 in the front and 8.1 on the back for a few years now.
Weird.
0.47 front and 7.6 rear gives me (85kg) the correct static and race sag settings going by Ned and James's book.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:11 PM   #73060
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SkunkWizard - I like the low front fender and if I had a road going only or mild dirt road DR, I'd go with it. I've seen your metalwork firsthand - there's some in my garage - and it's first rate.

Good to see you around here still.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:36 PM   #73061
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SkunkWizard - I like the low front fender and if I had a road going only or mild dirt road DR, I'd go with it. I've seen your metalwork firsthand - there's some in my garage - and it's first rate.

Good to see you around here still.
I've always been lurking, I try to keep my post count low and my ride count high.
Metalwork is my weakpoint, I do it for a change of pace & relaxation.
Composites are my deal and it keeps me stupid busy during racing season.

I have a new project for the DR in the works, I can't wait for some free time. It involves Stainless Steel and carbon fiber.
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Old 01-20-2013, 03:48 PM   #73062
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Old 01-20-2013, 04:45 PM   #73063
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Weird.
0.47 front and 7.6 rear gives me (85kg) the correct static and race sag settings going by Ned and James's book.
Well, I do know that you and I don't weigh the same. If you weighed only slightly more, or had your bike loaded you'd probably be using the same rear spring as me. I always thought both the front and rear of my stock bike was way under sprung and now it seems more balanced. I did go up a lot on the front if you think about it in terms of percentage (.40 stock springs to .70 aftermarket); although I have to wonder if the progressive front springs would be similar to a heavier spring as they cycle through the range (I don't know). So, maybe because I now have straight rate springs I go with a higher rate; whereas the stock spring feels like a higher spring rate as it cycles? I was going to measure my sag, but I froze my ass off putting on some new Barkbusters, so I'm taking a bourbon (Bulleit) break.

You went up about 15% front and rear, and I went up much more in the front. I'm wondering if the progressive to straight rate means anything in the reasoning.
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Old 01-20-2013, 06:12 PM   #73064
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I got my forks apart today with only a medium of mess. ;)

I noticed, comparing to the photo spread on the ProCycle site that Jeff pointed me to, that my damper rods don't have the nylon cup on either side. I've verified it's not stuck in the fork tube. Is this going to be a problem?

I also noticed there are no rebound holes in the rod, unless you count the single, super tiny (not even 1mm) hole up near the top.

AND, whoever did the original "lowering" on this bike put the spacer and the top-out spring in the wrong way according to both the ProCycle picture spread and the paper instructions from RaceTech. I doubt it made any difference, but it was worth noting.

Now to go start drilling.

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Old 01-20-2013, 06:46 PM   #73065
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FYI, suspension, gearing impressions.

Got my bike back this afternoon from a local suspension guru and nothing is spewing fork/shock oil! But, even better than that is the way the bike feels. It sure doesn't ride like a DR650 anymore, at least nothing like a stock one. I am shocked (notice the pun!) at the difference the emulators and shock shaft assembly have made. Granted, I've only put about 40 miles on it since I picked it up, but having the adjustable rebound is incredible. The bike is planted.

I may have gone a bit too stiff with the springs (.70 front and 8.1 rear), I'm still figuring it out. It's a relatively stiff ride, but the fact that it doesn't bounce around on wash board is phenom. I need to find a place that's significantly more rutted or wash boarded out because most of the stuff around here has a nice layer of new gravel over a frozen layer of dirt, but the dirt roads nearest my house are completely different to ride with the new suspension.

I just wanted to post this for those on the fence about upgrading the suspension. It probably doesn't matter what you do as an upgrade, it's probably all for the better, but if you go all out and get new springs and emulators and a rear shock with adjustability, I think you'll be surprised at how different your bike will feel and perform.

BTW, I also changed the front and rear sprockets (one down in the front, one up in the back). I guess it's got to be about an 8 or 9% change and it has made a pretty good difference, and definitely not too low for around town, commuting and gravel roads. I lost a little top-end, but I didn't use it anyway (over 5k miles and it's never been on an interstate).
I finished mine a few months ago but I'm still not happy with the rear shock. The slow speed damping doesn't feel like it has changed at all. I still get that pogo stick feeling when riding on surface streets. I haven't been able to take it out on any dirt stuff as yet. Did yours tighten up enough where you don't feel like it is riding on just the spring?
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