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Old 01-27-2013, 07:01 PM   #73231
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A binding clutch cable could have been a culprit too.
Or even a lack of play in the cable.
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Old 01-27-2013, 11:54 PM   #73232
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Are you using the stock tank? My IMS goes down pretty far. I can barely see my Carb without taking the other stuff off.

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OE tank. If you stated your tank is an IMS in your previous post, I missed it.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:16 AM   #73233
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I agree. Not many DR's lose the clutch. Very few I've heard about ... but synthetic oil with friction modifiers will do it. If the rest of the bike looks OK ... could be a good deal. Clutch is easy and relatively cheap to replace.
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and valvoline in 2 seperate bikes

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moral of the story dont ever "ever" Ever! !!!EVER!!

run energy conserving oils i your bike.

liquid evil i tell yuh.

But great in cars
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A binding clutch cable could have been a culprit too.
Thanks for all the reply's. Good info. I'll check the steering head bearings, clutch cable and never use energy conserving oil in a bike. There is a lot of people who use ATF in their trials bikes. Just change it frequently as it is cheap. The clutch on my (and most) trials bike is like a light switch - on or off. I bought the ATF and was ready to dump all 500cc's in and I couldn't do it. It's only 500cc and I just wanted to use oil made specifically for a 2 stroke wet clutch gear box. Cost a lot more but I sleep better.
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Old 01-28-2013, 05:19 AM   #73234
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Somebody may have put "Energy Conserving" oil in it and caused the clutch to slip, requiring a change of plates. It might not have been "worn out" but still needing replacement for that reason.
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Clutch wear comes down to riding style, some use it as a torque converter and the life is much shorter than someone who uses it in a more conservative manner. Keep in mind the current owner may love to power wheelie and that eats up the clutch faster and is also tough on the head stock bearings so when you look at the bike grab a handful of brake and try to rock the bike back and forth listening and feeling for movement in that area.
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Or even a lack of play in the cable.
Thanks for the reply. They were cut out of the multi due to the small novel about the evils of energy saving oil in bikes. JK. Thanks for all the ideas. Going to have a look today.
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Old 01-28-2013, 06:32 AM   #73235
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:38 AM   #73236
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The only time this makes no difference is with 50% opening, where it obviously doesn't matter whether you say "1/2 throttle" or "1/2 opening".

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Derek
or at -40 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit.

When people say 1/4 throttle, 99 & 44/100ths percent, mean 1/4 open regardless of what the dictionary says.

Why do you have to be such a stickler? When I say stickler, I mean Tool. look that up. When people say choke, they mean the thing the operate when the engine is cold.

I see the same thing on gun forums where new people refer to magazines as clips. (google it to see the difference) There is always some knowledgeable "stickler" that feels the need to lecture the new guy about the difference.

Derek, you are a very knowledgeable stickler. I almost never do this, but I'm gonna hit my ignore button for a while, buh-bye.
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Old 01-28-2013, 07:40 AM   #73237
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JFW! That's a new one for just f'ing WOW! I love that.
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Old 01-28-2013, 08:07 AM   #73238
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when people say 1/4 throttle, 99 & 44/100ths percent, mean 1/4 open regardless of what the dictionary says.
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Old 01-28-2013, 09:42 AM   #73239
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or at -40 degrees Celsius or Fahrenheit.

When people say 1/4 throttle, 99 & 44/100ths percent, mean 1/4 open regardless of what the dictionary says.

Why do you have to be such a stickler? When I say stickler, I mean Tool. look that up. When people say choke, they mean the thing the operate when the engine is cold.

I see the same thing on gun forums where new people refer to magazines as clips. (google it to see the difference) There is always some knowledgeable "stickler" that feels the need to lecture the new guy about the difference.

Derek, you are a very knowledgeable stickler. I almost never do this, but I'm gonna hit my ignore button for a while, buh-bye.
In this case, as in all cases, I am attempting to raise the bar. I can see no downside to improving the precision with which we communicate. I see it as indicative of the general sad state of affairs that someone would disparage another (even to the extent of name-calling) for such a thing.

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Old 01-28-2013, 10:42 AM   #73240
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Thanks to all the info on tires, I've decided to get the Metzeler Unicross and keep the Bridgestone as a backup plan.
I appreciate the help and will be posting soon...I hope!
One more question, then I'll shush about tires....can the DR650 run a 80/100/21 up front?

Seems like more choice for that size...okay, I'm done!
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Old 01-28-2013, 10:59 AM   #73241
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JFW! That's a new one for just f'ing WOW! I love that.
If it still had knobblies, then it'd be a WOW!
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Old 01-28-2013, 12:45 PM   #73242
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After many weeks of waiting and working on the DR I finished my project, except for new tires next month. Just turned the key off after starting to make sure it still runs. The project was:
1. strip the bike down to its frame and powder coat the frame black
2. clean up all the rims and hubs exhaust and any other component that needed a thorough going through
3. disassemble the previously installed RMZ450 front forks to change the oil to a lighter weight and at the same time shorten the overall travel from 12.2" to 11.5"--- this allowed me to drop the forks into the triple clamps farther than before and tighten up the steering for serious off road handling, while turning the rear preload down a little for a more trail oriented ride
4. also installed a new set of fat bars that I think I will like even better than the previous bars
5. I previously had purchased a new ULY front headlight assembly but opted to put the stock lights back on and sell the ULY headlight since I also recently bought a 2009 KLR for my road riding adventures
6. rewired the BMW plug and cig lighter plug a little nicer



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Old 01-28-2013, 12:54 PM   #73243
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After many weeks of waiting and working on the DR I finished my project, except for new tires next month. Just turned the key off after starting to make sure it still runs. The project was:
1. strip the bike down to its frame and powder coat the frame black
2. clean up all the rims and hubs exhaust and any other component that needed a thorough going through
3. disassemble the previously installed RMZ450 front forks to change the oil to a lighter weight and at the same time shorten the overall travel from 12.2" to 11.5"--- this allowed me to drop the forks into the triple clamps farther than before and tighten up the steering for serious off road handling, while turning the rear preload down a little for a more trail oriented ride
4. also installed a new set of fat bars that I think I will like even better than the previous bars
5. I previously had purchased a new ULY front headlight assembly but opted to put the stock lights back on and sell the ULY headlight since I also recently bought a 2009 KLR for my road riding adventures
6. rewired the BMW plug and cig lighter plug a little nicer


Looks good. Are the red parts powder coated also?
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Old 01-28-2013, 02:42 PM   #73244
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Look what Santa brought.......!

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Old 01-28-2013, 02:45 PM   #73245
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As my lovely wife likes to say to our boys,..."Its Christmas everyday for your Dad"

Looks like a Cogent. Cool Santa you have.
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