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Old 02-01-2013, 02:19 PM   #73381
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...not messing with the Air Fuel screw, which is still under the brass plug...

So. Anything I am missing?
Yes, you can't proper clean the carb without removing the idle mixture screw. The idle circuit passages are very small and clog up easily. Any tiny bit of crud will get stuck in there if you don't get the screw out and make sure it's all clear.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:33 PM   #73382
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Newbie here

Not new to cycles or forums, but new to working on my DR650, and new to this forum. Not sure whether to post questions here or not. Here goes ... Why does my dr smoke blue exhaust when it's cold, then when it warms up, no smoke at all?

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:34 PM   #73383
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Thanks!

OK. Idle mix screw is under brass plug? Will pull that out and clean. Thank you very much.

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Old 02-01-2013, 02:39 PM   #73384
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OK. Idle mix screw is under brass plug? Will pull that out and clean. Thank you very much.

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Make sure the passage between the idle mixture screw, the pilot jet and into the carb throat is clear.
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Old 02-01-2013, 02:59 PM   #73385
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Not new to cycles or forums, but new to working on my DR650, and new to this forum. Not sure whether to post questions here or not. Here goes ... Why does my dr smoke blue exhaust when it's cold, then when it warms up, no smoke at all?
Valve guide seals most likely. No big deal. You could do a valve job to fix it ... but is really of no consequence, won't affect over all performance and the amount of oil used is minimal.

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OK. Idle mix screw is under brass plug? Will pull that out and clean. Thank you very much.

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I would pull the Carb off, then pull off the float bowl. Inspect the Pilot jet,
and pull float out and clean under float needle (little rubber tip) Blow out with compressed air, carefully reassemble.

Filters: You have a little filter in the metal fuel inlet tube. It's a tiny white
filter. Pry it out ... check it for crud.

Pull petcock out of fuel tank and clean intake filter stem.

From here you should install an extended Idle mix fuel screw. Much easier to adjust. Keep reading here to learn all the ins and outs of tuning the simple DR650.
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Old 02-01-2013, 03:18 PM   #73386
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Valve guide seals most likely. No big deal. You could do a valve job to fix it ... but is really of no consequence, won't affect over all performance and the amount of oil used is minimal.
Thanks, that is some peace of mind. I just did a valve adjustment on it, but am uncertain about my competency in this department. Lack of quality tools, and experience being the biggest factor. How do I know if I did it right or wrong? It rattles and clanks quite a bit up there. Btw, it did the blue smoke thing before I adjusted the valves, so I don't think I made it worse.

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Old 02-01-2013, 04:16 PM   #73387
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Ok.... so I'm lowering my DR today, did the rear no problem, going to raise the forks in the triple clamp... get everything all loosened up (top and bottom clamp) and they won't budge? Are there any tips and tricks or maybe something I missed?
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:29 PM   #73388
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I wonder if they are binding as the wheel wants to go forward and therefore change the angle of the fork tube/clamps. Did you take the weight off the suspension first, raise the bike?
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:43 PM   #73389
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All I have is a car floor jack... so to do the rear I just layed the bike on its side. I tried it once again, on the side but still can't move the forks :?

To confirm... there are only 6 bolts requiring removal to loosen them sufficiently... correct? 4 for the lower clamp and two for the top?
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:47 PM   #73390
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All I have is a car floor jack... so to do the rear I just layed the bike on its side. I tried it once again, on the side but still can't move the forks :?

To confirm... there are only 6 bolts requiring removal to loosen them sufficiently... correct? 4 for the lower clamp and two for the top?
Yeah that's it. I suggest getting the front end in the air and removing the front wheel. It's MUCH easier than trying to do with the wheel on it.

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Old 02-01-2013, 04:51 PM   #73391
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Thanks, that is some peace of mind. I just did a valve adjustment on it, but am uncertain about my competency in this department. Lack of quality tools, and experience being the biggest factor. How do I know if I did it right or wrong? It rattles and clanks quite a bit up there. Btw, it did the blue smoke thing before I adjusted the valves, so I don't think I made it worse.
Sounds like you got the valves wrong ... you may need to go round one more full rotation and back on your timing mark to get valves in correct position for adjustment. If set right ... they don't rattle very much.
Mis-adjusted valves won't affect your valve guides. About four hours shop labor to rebuild the head if you chose. If me, I'd just roll with it. You're nick name will be "Smokey Joe".

Find someone to help you set the valves. It's quite simple once you know the drill.
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Old 02-01-2013, 04:57 PM   #73392
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I hate wiring.

So today I finally decide to go for a short ride on my DR650. I get geared up and head west, figuring I'm gonna see if there are some dirt roads southwest of Dallas (Oregon). I get two miles down the road and notice my right-side LED driving light is hanging by its cord. WTF? I thought I lost the bolt. Nope, the bracket is broken! Crap. So I double back home.

The little brackets from ProCycle for these lights have broken. The other side was just about ready to break. So I go inside and look through my parts bins. I come back out with two longer bolts and two 3/4" long nylon spacers, and replace the lower bolt in the lower triple with the new bolt and the spacer, to force the light out far enough so I can retain the reflector bracket. Takes ten minutes and it's all back together.

I test the lights. They come on... flicker, then go off. WTF? No "off" light on the switch. Grrr. Pull the side panels and seat off and try to remember what the heck the fuse block for the lights looks like. After pulling the tank and tracing the wires, I find it. Fuse is fine. Pull fuse, examine, replace. Lights work. Cool, so I reassemble.

Once back together, I test again. Lights no work. AUGH. Pull side panel and go back to fuse. Pulling/replacing doesn't work this time. Fine, be that way. Came inside in disgust. Tomorrow, everything comes apart again and I'm ripping the fancy wiring/relay crap out that the lights came with (the Denali lights from Twisted Throttle) and I'm going to wire them up the regular way like I did on my KLX250S and use a conventional toggle switch instead of that silly pushbutton thing. Simple is good.

While looking at the wiring mess, I've decided that when I do gut the thing next Winter to powdercoat the purple frame, I'm going to redo ALL the wiring and install a standard fuse block and relay block, both accessible from the side covers, and everything will be labelled. That way, the seat can stay on most of the time. At least that's the plan. :)

So yeah.. now instead of riding tomorrow, I get to deal with wiring crap.

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Old 02-01-2013, 05:27 PM   #73393
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Ok.... so I'm lowering my DR today, did the rear no problem, going to raise the forks in the triple clamp... get everything all loosened up (top and bottom clamp) and they won't budge? Are there any tips and tricks or maybe something I missed?
Did you loosen the clamp at the top of the fork boot?
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:28 PM   #73394
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Ok.... so I'm lowering my DR today, did the rear no problem, going to raise the forks in the triple clamp... get everything all loosened up (top and bottom clamp) and they won't budge? Are there any tips and tricks or maybe something I missed?
Sometimes the rubber grommets in the headlight bracket stick to the tubes. A little WD40 might help.

Some bikes just have tight bores in the triple clamps. A little something wedged into the gap to spread the clamp might do the trick.
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Old 02-01-2013, 05:57 PM   #73395
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Did you loosen the clamp at the top of the fork boot?
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