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Old 03-08-2013, 11:02 AM   #74476
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I run a DOT knobby on the front and it looks like I'll be running another Shinko 244 on the rear (no sand, no mud). The 244 gets good mileage and is 'really inexpensive'. If a knobby wears too fast, try the 244 on the front, too.



Thanks, thats what I was leaning towards from the Dunlop 606, just wasnt sure if the tire was chunking at all.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:06 AM   #74477
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Okay, since tires have come up once again, I'll go ahead and ask... has anybody here run the Kenda Big Block on the DR650? I know people like it on bigger bikes like the KTM 990 Adventure, but I'm curious if it works well/wears well on the lighter DR?

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Good question! I've not heard any reports from DR650 riders on the new Kenda ... but I have read a couple reports on Beasts and GSpot where the BB's did service on R1200GS, F800 BMW's and a KTM or two.
Verdict? Not that good ... especially in the longevity category. On those bikes they wore out quickly. I'm sure they'll do far better on the DR. To out pace the competition they'll need to go beyond 5000 miles (rear tire).

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Old 03-08-2013, 11:10 AM   #74478
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Use one on all my bikes--I cut them down so there is more room for my hand on the grip.
look at that throttle rocker instead. it's angle design matches up with you palm shape so there is no a room issue anymore. you rest the outside part of your palm on it and just push down for throttle. you don't even know it's there.

i tried the crampbuster once and that the design was bulky and not good compared to the throttle rocker. since it is not ergo shaped of your hand yes it's in the way and dumb imo.

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Old 03-08-2013, 11:12 AM   #74479
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I run a DOT knobby on the front and it looks like I'll be running another Shinko 244 on the rear (no sand, no mud). The 244 gets good mileage and is 'really inexpensive'. If a knobby wears too fast, try the 244 on the front, too.



Thanks, thats what I was leaning towards from the Dunlop 606, just wasnt sure if the tire was chunking at all.
i've had great luck with the TR8 front.
lasts a good amount. rails on the pavement like TKC did for me and does great in the dirt.
for the price, it's my go to tire. many overlook it. it's build extremely well and from japan.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ront-Tire.aspx
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:19 AM   #74480
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Good question! I've not heard any reports from DR650 riders on the new Kenda ... but I have read a couple reports on Beasts and GSpot where the BB's did service on R1200GS, F800 BMW's and a KTM or two.
Verdict? Not that good ... especially in the longevity category. On those bikes they wore out quickly. I'm sure they'll do far better on the DR. Do out pace the competition they'll need to go beyond 5000 miles (rear tire).
every Big Block owner I talked to said no way would they would ever use that tire again.
the said the grip was on par with others, but the mileage is a joke, even on lighter bikes.
seems Kenda does not have (or if they do, use) the rubber technology to make a longer life tire.
the only reason the get long mileage out of a K270 rear is the build it with crazy long knobs vrs better rubber technology.
the Big Block has short knobs and crap rubber thus wears out fast. IMO Kenda is at the bottom of list of tire MFG.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:23 AM   #74481
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i've had great luck with the TR8 front.
lasts a good amount. rails on the pavement like TKC did for me and does great in the dirt.
for the price, it's my go to tire. many overlook it. it's build extremely well and from japan.
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...ront-Tire.aspx
Thanks for the heads up on this tire. I've not tried it ... and never even heard a word about it. If its close to the TKC then that is, indeed, good news!
How would you estimate it would compare with a Front Michelin T-66 ? (Correction T63)

My TKC80 is about finished and I have a NEW T66 sitting here. Is the IRC that much better?

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Old 03-08-2013, 11:47 AM   #74482
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Thanks for the heads up on this tire. I've not tried it ... and never even heard a word about it. If its close to the TKC then that is, indeed, good news!
How would you estimate it would compare with a Front Michelin T-66 ?

My TKC80 is about finished and I have a NEW T66 sitting here. Is the IRC that much better?
T63?
They look similar to the TR8 (have seen my friends T63), but have not used.
Are the T63 really produced in China now? This explains the lower price for a Michelin. The TR8 says right on the side made in Japan and the quality shows.

here are some TR8 pics
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=672464
looking at that T63 is those pics, i'd say the TR8 is gonna corner better in hard cornering on the pavement.
looks like the TR8 wrap around the edges father and have more & beefier blocks on the edge.
I say the T63 is slightly more dirt focused than the TR8.
i have pushed mine hard on the pave and it never get funny feeling even at a hard lean.
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Old 03-08-2013, 11:54 AM   #74483
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T63?
They look similar to the TR8 (have seen my friends T63), but have not used.
Are the T63 really produced in China now? This explains the lower price for a Michelin. The TR8 says right on the side made in Japan and the quality shows.
Correction! Not T66 ... but T63 as you say! (Sorry!)
My T63's are made in Czech Republic ... I bought them two years ago.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:36 PM   #74484
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Your advice goes in line with my thinking. I'm planning to do a month of Baja in June. I have planned on using the Big Block front tire with a Shinko 244 rear. That way I will have a knobby front for stablity in sand or dirt and a rear for mileage on pavement. Have made the Shinko 244's my standard tire for the DR650. Inexpensive, good mileage wear. I get about 10K miles out of a set on the road.

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other reports have said the same thing. Big Block rear mileage is very poor.

Next time consider a mullet - knobby front & less aggressive rear.
you'll get long life f&r and still great dirt performance.

options are many but include:
IRC tr-8 front & Shinko 244 rear - expect 4-5k on rear
TCK80 / MT-21 front & K60 /Mefo Explorer rear. - expect 7-9k on rear

a high mileage, lower cost (vrs k60 /mefo) & often passed over rear is this:
http://www.motorcycle-superstore.com...Rear-Tire.aspx
you could match this will a Shinko 244 front if you do alot of paved and easy dirt.
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:50 PM   #74485
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I lay down a cinder block on either side, just behind the front wheel, with a piece of 2x8 across them.

I can place my feet on the cinder blocks to pull up the sag of the suspension enough to move the bike forward so the frame rests on the 2x8.

If you lowered your DR650, find some variation of it.

I can't remember if I then placed some weight on the rear of the seat to counter-weight it.


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Old 03-08-2013, 12:53 PM   #74486
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Anyone here spoke their own front 17 or 19" front wheel?



Now I have a cracked stock 21" front on my DR. Thinkin about how to best end up with a 19 and a 21. Buy a stock front wheel and run it as is and lace up a 19 rim seems about easiest.

Where do you guys source spokes??
still wondering. any here spoke their own?
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Old 03-08-2013, 12:57 PM   #74487
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This one is going on the fridge!!
Can I get one made of my white one?? Purple frame please.
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:08 PM   #74488
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:13 PM   #74489
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still wondering. any here spoke their own?
I've spoked / built two mountain bike wheels in my time. There's theory behind building any wheel with spokes, so looking up some how-to on building a good bicycle wheel will go a long way toward understanding the building of a motorcycle wheel I'd think.

The one wheel I built is stronger than jsut about any wheel I could ever have bought, but the second wheel I messed up the spoke length by just a few millimeters, and while it's still serving me, I know it isn't comparable to the first wheel I built. Nonetheless, when you change rims to anything other than the same part number that came stock, the spoke length is critical, and usually will change.

http://sheldonbrown.com/wheelbuild.html
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Old 03-08-2013, 01:30 PM   #74490
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Kind of a noob when it comes to the DR, and I'm trying to get the bike on some kind of stand to take off the front wheel....any recommendations?


I also use a car jack and tie straps to my garage ceiling to stabilize the bike, what are folks using without a center stand to put the bike up on to change wheels?

Thanks!
Not that complicated. This will even work on the side of the road.
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