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Old 03-15-2013, 07:19 PM   #74791
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Yes, another seat post

But wait, there's more. I'm looking for a complete seat (not just a kit), and my riding is nearly 100% road (paved/semi-paved/gravel/dirt). I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and don't have an issue with the 650's seat height. Very few rides will be >300 miles in a single day.

I'm a new DR owner and put down right at 150 miles earlier today. The stock seat is not pleasant, and I found myself frequently switching riding positions (crouched over with left hand on my knee proved most therapeutic). Corbin gets high marks, but many complain that it's too wide for serious off-roading (my CRF250X handles those duties). Seat Concepts also has loyal followers, along with Sargent.

So my question is: are all aftermarket seats much better than stock, and its simply nuances between the Big 3?

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Old 03-15-2013, 07:25 PM   #74792
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But wait, there's more. I'm looking for a complete seat (not just a kit), and my riding is nearly 100% road (paved/semi-paved/gravel/dirt). I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and don't have an issue with the 650's seat height. Very few rides will be >300 miles in a single day.

I'm a new DR owner and put down right at 150 miles earlier today. The stock seat is not pleasant, and I found myself frequently switching riding positions (crouched over with left hand on my knee proved most therapeutic). Corbin gets high marks, but many complain that it's too wide for serious off-roading (my CRF250X handles those duties). Seat Concepts also has loyal followers, along with Sargent.

So my question is: are all aftermarket seats much better than stock, and its simply nuances between the Big 3?

Weave
Corbin uses a heavy and inflexible seatpan. It doesn't work with different-shaped tanks. The other seat solutions tend to be lighter and flexible.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:31 PM   #74793
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I'm happy with my Seat Concepts seat,it's worlds better than the stocker!
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:59 PM   #74794
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So my question is: are all aftermarket seats much better than stock, and its simply nuances between the Big 3?

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My wife and I have a Seat Concepts and a Pro Cycle/Saddlemen seat and each is far better than stock.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:03 PM   #74795
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But wait, there's more. I'm looking for a complete seat (not just a kit), and my riding is nearly 100% road (paved/semi-paved/gravel/dirt). I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and don't have an issue with the 650's seat height. Very few rides will be >300 miles in a single day.

I'm a new DR owner and put down right at 150 miles earlier today. The stock seat is not pleasant, and I found myself frequently switching riding positions (crouched over with left hand on my knee proved most therapeutic). Corbin gets high marks, but many complain that it's too wide for serious off-roading (my CRF250X handles those duties). Seat Concepts also has loyal followers, along with Sargent.

So my question is: are all aftermarket seats much better than stock, and its simply nuances between the Big 3?

Weave
I'll try not to be too much of a shill, but I just bought the ProCycle seat they have that's a Saddlemen and so far I'm really happy with it. I don't think I'd be much good after a 300 mile day, but that has nothing to do with the seat. They are having a sale fwiw.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:08 PM   #74796
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So my question is: are all aftermarket seats much better than stock, and its simply nuances between the Big 3?

Weave
I'm quite frugal and when I bought my DR, I was thinkin' "are those fookers knutz? whoo'd pay $300 for an aftermarket seat?" 500 miles later, I was thinkin' "Hey, I'll pay $600 for that seat".

Edit: the Corbin is pretty wide, and spreads my knees when standing. I've spent a lifetime trying to spread knees. Izzat bad?
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:15 PM   #74797
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The bog part 2

Couple of things; checked my mileage today and I got 35 mpgs. That's not an average, just one gas stop. Almost 100% pavement. This is after the year long ordeal that was the valve adjustment and the ProCycle stock carb kit. I remember closer to 50 mpgs a year ago. Did I screw something up? Also, the off idle bog still irks me. I'll tear into the carb again next week, but I'm annoyed that I've got to do it a second time in two months. What's this about the USA vs. the overseas idle mixture screw?
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:15 PM   #74798
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But wait, there's more. I'm looking for a complete seat (not just a kit), and my riding is nearly 100% road (paved/semi-paved/gravel/dirt). I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and don't have an issue with the 650's seat height. Very few rides will be >300 miles in a single day.


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Sargent for me. I've ridden about 50K miles on it. It's not the finest seat out there but it's pretty darn good. I can ride 70-100 miles at a stretch on it, 350-400 mile days, day after day.

I'd buy another.

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Old 03-15-2013, 08:27 PM   #74799
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:49 PM   #74800
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Couple of things; checked my mileage today and I got 35 mpgs. That's not an average, just one gas stop. Almost 100% pavement.
I wouldn't be happy with 35 mpg, especially on the pavement. What's your gearing, 15t-42t?
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This is after the year long ordeal that was the valve adjustment and the ProCycle stock carb kit. I remember closer to 50 mpgs a year ago. Did I screw something up? Also, the off idle bog still irks me.
An off idle bog is frequenty caused by an idle air mixture being too rich. Turn yours in 1/4 turn, test ride, etc.
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I'll tear into the carb again next week, but I'm annoyed that I've got to do it a second time in two months. What's this about the USA vs. the overseas idle mixture screw?
The mixture screws are the same, you're thinking about the jet needle. The overseas needles have 5 grooves for e-clip adjustment, the USA needles only have one groove.

Stock USA needle.

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Old 03-15-2013, 10:28 PM   #74801
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An off idle bog is frequenty caused by an idle air mixture being too rich.
If the the idle mixture happens to be too rich, that is corrected, and the minor overlap to the progression circuit cures an off idle stumble, then so be it. Other than that, the idle mixture screw should not be used to tune off idle.

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Old 03-15-2013, 10:30 PM   #74802
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Your logic makes sense, but not for a dealership. The profits on new bikes are very low, coupled with the fact that there are literally hundreds of the exact same bike all over the country, you need to negotiate to move units.
On a used bike there is only one exact version of that bike and though others may be close, it is still a unique piece. You can then ask whatever you want for it and it will sell eventually since they can't go down the road and buy the same bike.
I worked for over fifteen years in the industry and I can say that the profit margin on a bike like a DR is small after the buyer negotiates. I would guess $400 max, on a used bike I wanted to make a grand or better on every deal.



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Old 03-15-2013, 10:32 PM   #74803
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Couple of things; checked my mileage today and I got 35 mpgs. That's not an average, just one gas stop. Almost 100% pavement. This is after the year long ordeal that was the valve adjustment and the ProCycle stock carb kit. I remember closer to 50 mpgs a year ago. Did I screw something up? Also, the off idle bog still irks me. I'll tear into the carb again next week, but I'm annoyed that I've got to do it a second time in two months. What's this about the USA vs. the overseas idle mixture screw?
How many miles are there on the carb? Does the problem improve or get worse as the engine warms up?

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Old 03-16-2013, 02:29 AM   #74804
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As others have said, look at the Sargent seats. We've had them on several bikes and always been pleased. Google around for best price.

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But wait, there's more. I'm looking for a complete seat (not just a kit), and my riding is nearly 100% road (paved/semi-paved/gravel/dirt). I'm 5'9", 150 lbs and don't have an issue with the 650's seat height. Very few rides will be >300 miles in a single day.

I'm a new DR owner and put down right at 150 miles earlier today. The stock seat is not pleasant, and I found myself frequently switching riding positions (crouched over with left hand on my knee proved most therapeutic). Corbin gets high marks, but many complain that it's too wide for serious off-roading (my CRF250X handles those duties). Seat Concepts also has loyal followers, along with Sargent.

So my question is: are all aftermarket seats much better than stock, and its simply nuances between the Big 3?

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Old 03-16-2013, 06:03 AM   #74805
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Tyre pressures

Hi guys

Fairly new around here but been reading for a while. Well just picked up the 2new dr650 for me and the wife. We are fairly new dirt riders.
Trying to work out what pressures we should be runnning for different terrain.
Both bikes have safari tanks and the suspension has been done(pic of bikes to follow). Both bikes have pirelli mt21 front and rear.
Below are the types of terrain we ride, can you give us sugestions as to what pressures we should run for each terrain
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Soft sand
Hard dirt with loose covering of dirt
Hard dirt with some rock
Bituemin

Thanks guys, hope to post a trip report soon.
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