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Old 03-21-2013, 08:41 PM   #75016
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Did you buy this bike new? That doesn't look like a OEM Suzuki seat to me.

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First mini-tour with my DR650 is accomplished. Before this, I was absolutely sure that the order I needed to go was:
1. New tank
2. Upgraded / stiff suspension
3. Upgraded saddle

But now...

1. UPGRADED SADDLE
2. New tank
3. Upgraded suspension



Not for any other reason than I'm now sure that Suzuki used the cheapest foam available, and after long hours in the saddle it settles down so far that it might as well not even be there (just like cheap foam in cheap bicycle seats, etc.).

I used to think the saddle was fine, but that was with 2400 miles on the bike. Maybe I used up the life of the cheap foam as I commuted to work (8000 miles on the bike now)?

So... while I really love Corbin for saddles (specifically, for their supportive foam), I'd also like to save money, and it's not like I'm going after a real leather cover for the bike even if I were to go Corbin. I'm contemplating a Seat Concepts kit... but I don't even think I need their feature of making it wider - I just need much higher quality foam.



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Old 03-21-2013, 08:53 PM   #75017
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Did you buy this bike new? That doesn't look like a OEM Suzuki seat to me.

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I bought it with 2400 miles on it.


Apparently 2002 Suzuki DR650's did not have the logo/name "SUZUKI" on the sides of the seat like modern day ones do. All google images for the bike show the same.

I didn't know this until now, but I think it looks better than those with the name.
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Old 03-21-2013, 09:18 PM   #75018
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The Dyno Dynamics dynos show quite different numbers to the more normal Dynojets, and Carl said that applying his conversion factor mean that the 43 DD hp <> 63 DJ hp. No one who's ridden it will argue the point. His ported CR500s on this dyno showed 37-38 hp.
Could it be Carl is using an Eddy Current type Dyno as opposed to the
typical Dyno Jet one? Experts here tell us the Eddy Current is the more accurate rating system ... but punters don't like it cause it returns a "low" number!
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Old 03-21-2013, 11:40 PM   #75019
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Could it be Carl is using an Eddy Current type Dyno as opposed to the
typical Dyno Jet one? Experts here tell us the Eddy Current is the more accurate rating system ... but punters don't like it cause it returns a "low" number!
Something like that:
http://www.dyno.com.au/

As I said, the absolute numbers are largely irrelevant, other than for bragging rights, its how it works, and the before and after results that the tuning aided by a dyno achieves. So for comparison purposes, because they are more or less a standard, and give big numbers, DJ numbers get quoted. Its been somewhere on my to do list to take the DR to Carl for a tune, but just haven't got around to it. He knows FCRs and big singles and does a great job.
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Old 03-22-2013, 04:02 AM   #75020
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anybody ship a Dr via forward air? What size container? Can you pull the front wheel off to make it smaller?
We shipped a Bonneville a few years back; all we did was remove the mirrors and turn the bars down. We didn't drain all fluids either, just emptied the gas tank. A buddy shipped a VStrom the same way.

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Old 03-22-2013, 09:02 AM   #75021
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I trucked my DR out to Seattle and back via Federal. No container. They are the best in the biz. And they pick up and drop off right at my house.


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Old 03-22-2013, 12:40 PM   #75022
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Old 03-22-2013, 12:58 PM   #75023
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What I wish would happen is that they call the dealers and see if they have fork seals and a throttle cable in stock. That is the test, not how many bikes they push out the door. Then people who want a Suz will travel to where they can get a bike. Then the remaining dealers will be worth visiting after the sale.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:22 PM   #75024
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This is a good thing. Suzuki, IMO, are way over due in doing this "House Cleaning". Get rid of bad, unproductive dealers. Triumph went through this about 5-6 years back. BMW too. BMW have very strict guidelines that many could not follow ... so they lost their franchise.

There are way too many multi-brand dealers who make NO EFFORT to push Suzuki. They don't stock any parts ... not even routine tune up parts ... they don't advertise unless Suzuki is paying ... and they don't sell bikes and could really care less.

The Dealers are in a tough spot too ... but not everyone is "good" at selling motorcycles and running a business. For years motorcycles all sold themselves and the dealers only had to take money and count it. It was a gold mine business anyone could (and did!) make money at.

NOW ... only the good ones will survive. As it should be.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:32 PM   #75025
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What I wish would happen is that they call the dealers and see if they have fork seals and a throttle cable in stock. That is the test, .
Buying parts from dealers is a joke, i, like so many here, order on line and get what i want faster with better service.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:33 PM   #75026
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Well, I hope Grants Pass Suzuki is one of the dealers cut.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:36 PM   #75027
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Buying parts from dealers is a joke, i, like so many here, order on line and get what i want faster with better service.
For the most part, I concur, especially when it comes to pricing. However, when I do need dealer support, and there's none to be had, then I'm partially to blame for not supporting them to begin with.
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Old 03-22-2013, 01:50 PM   #75028
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Buying parts from dealers is a joke, i, like so many here, order on line and get what i want faster with better service.
Plus, I save the price of gasoline in my truck by not driving to the dealer to find out they don't have what I want. I haven't been able to get fork seals for years at the dealer one town away. But the suspension shop 2 towns over had them as well as wheel bearings and spacers and brake pads.
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:40 PM   #75029
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BMW have very strict guidelines that many could not follow ... so they lost their franchise.
They pushed out some good dealers that couldn't afford the boutique dealership that BMW wanted and left some geographical areas without a dealer for miles. They remind me of HD
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Old 03-22-2013, 02:42 PM   #75030
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Plus, I save the price of gasoline in my truck by not driving to the dealer to find out they don't have what I want. I haven't been able to get fork seals for years at the dealer one town away. But the suspension shop 2 towns over had them as well as wheel bearings and spacers and brake pads.
And the multiline dealer here then charges shipping for a part I could have gotten easier and cheaper days sooner. Haven't been near the place for years
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