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Old 03-25-2013, 02:20 PM   #75151
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:35 PM   #75152
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The cold start enrichment plunger and knob assembly lists at $27.39 ea. for an FCR and at $34.27 ea. for the FCRMX. I'm told that the assemblies for OEM are different. From Honda, they're ~$26.00. From Kawasaki, they're ~$28.00. From Suzuki it looks like they're around $25.00. From Yamaha, ~$22.00-31.00.

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I disagree with a lot you have to say, but I kept my mouth shut, but this tops it. Do you really dyno bikes? Have you ever tuned a bike with an FCR on it?
Just about every bike I have ever been around with an FCR had a choke on it. My stock WR had a choke on it, and my DR with an FCR has a choke on it.

Added: I am sure you are going to chime in about the technical difference between a choke and an enricher circuit, but for the average person they are they same in the way they work to warm a cold bike up.
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Old 03-25-2013, 02:52 PM   #75153
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Pedant. 'nuff said.
Yeah reminds me of the PhD students who know everything and need to let everyone know they know it all. But when it comes time to tie their shoes they prefer slip-on or velcro.
Oh wait let me say this correctly, hook and loop fasteners, since Velcro is a brand-name and I might offend someone by calling it velcro when it is another brands version.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:07 PM   #75154
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I prefer use the use of correct terminology, in the hopes it will become common terminology.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:39 PM   #75155
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I prefer use the use of correct terminology, in the hopes it will become common terminology.

I guess grammar comes second.




















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Old 03-25-2013, 03:44 PM   #75156
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I am going to but a set or torque wrenches: One for inch/pounds and one for foot pounds. The foot/pounds wrench is going is for 3/8" sockets, and with the inch/pound wrench I have a choice of 1/4"and 3/8".

What size you all recommend for the inch/pound wrench?

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Some advice: be gentle with the kickstand (don't sit on the bike and rock when the kickstand is holding the bike up) or its mount will bend and the kickstand will grind into the swingarm.
Depends on what you have for sockets. Most bolts that require inch pound are small and often need a small socket to get to. My inch/lb has 1/4 drive- but I have a whole drawer of 1/4 drive stuff.

If you don't have a lot of 1/4 drive sockets I say get the 3/8 so you don't have to buy sockets as well. Unless you just need an excuse to buy tools- which I never seem to.
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Old 03-25-2013, 03:47 PM   #75157
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I prefer use the use of correct terminology, in the hopes it will become common terminology.
That's a laudable thing to strive for. I believe people should say what they mean. But some misnomers creep in and become embedded in the lexicon, ya know? Given the, uh, "seasoned" age of many DR650SE riders , it's likely the use of "incorrect" or "inprecise" terminology isn't going away.

The cold start enrichener lever on my fuel injected BMW K75 says CHOKE . If that misnomer is acceptable to BMW, I feel everybody should be ok with it.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:27 PM   #75158
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I prefer use the use of correct terminology, in the hopes it will become common terminology.
QFT

I like that ADVrider generally has more intelligent/learned/wise postings than other bike forums. The lack of understanding common amongst a certain large thumper-based forum make thats place a waste of time mostly IMHO.

I like Motolab's contributions to this thread and forum, but one needs to take his tone for what it is. Dude is trying to give absolutely correct information, and I think that's a good thing in a world and industry that's always been full of snake oil, butt dynos, the "factory look" and bro-speak.

But on the other hand, I was an English major who was recently laughed at by coworkers for using the term "petcock."
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:32 PM   #75159
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how about everyone take the high road here and let's get back to talking about the DR650!
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #75160
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you've gotta be in the minority
He is definitely in the minority.
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:38 PM   #75161
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I guess grammar comes second.

Just messing with you man!
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Old 03-25-2013, 04:50 PM   #75162
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how about everyone take the high road here and let's get back to talking about the DR650!
You're right, of course.
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:04 PM   #75163
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:09 PM   #75164
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Not choked!

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Unless someone did a really strange retrofit, your FCR41 has a cold start enrichment circuit.

A choke is closed when an engine is cold and opened when it is warm, whereas a fuel enrichment circuit is opened when the engine is cold and closed when it is warm. A choke works by restricting the air flow, whereas an enrichment circuit works by adding extra fuel. A choke requires a fast idle cam or something akin to it (or you have to hold the throttle open manually), whereas an enrichment circuit adds a little extra air simultaneously with the extra fuel, so the fast idle is already built in.

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Thanks for the clarification, Derek. I assumed that it served the same function as a choke. All I know is that I pull out the button whenever it is cold...it starts...after the motor is warmed up, I push it in & go!
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Old 03-25-2013, 05:15 PM   #75165
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[/QUOTE]

Another difference, the stock petcock is 1" taller than the Acerbis. This might be a problem since the uphill loop is now 1" higher. Note: ignore the vacuum port, which is less than 1" (a bit misleading in the photo).


The uphill loop and potential vacuum lock. When the fuel level gets low, there isn't enough head pressure to overcome the air bubble in the loop. This means the bike quits running even though you can still see gas in the tank. It's a common problem on both the IMS and Safari aftermarket tanks, some work, some don't. I haven't heard anything on the Acerbis yet.






[/QUOTE]

I just fitted my bike with the same tank and used the provided screws . what i did for the fuel line was a long loop that does a complete circle . I also got my fuel intake to the carb twisted forward like every one talks about. got 324 KM out of the tank before i switched to reserve
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