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Old 03-26-2013, 08:32 PM   #75211
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Yep, that's me.
Acronym challenged.
I don't text, don't have a smart phone either.
In fact the basic phone I have is smarter than me.

Over time and reading context I have figured out most of the acronyms but I still haven't found the REAL meaning for the acronym DR.

Desert Rat?
Design Reject?
Delta Rhino?
Dog Runner?
Duh Rapper?
Doo Run?
Dude Rancher?

What say you experts?
A lot of the guys here refer to them as Dog Rooters, and sometimes Drug Runners.
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Old 03-26-2013, 08:39 PM   #75212
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Yep, that's me.
Acronym challenged.
I don't text, don't have a smart phone either.
In fact the basic phone I have is smarter than me.

..................
This is a good site:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/

And at the risk of being accused as a pedant, again, there is a difference between acronyms and abbreviations. Both are abbreviations, but acronyms are a subset of abbreviations that can also be pronounced as if they are a word themselves.

So, RFS is Rural Fire Service and hard to pronounce as a word, so its an abbreviation only, but TAFE, say, is an abbreviation for Technical And Further Education, and an acronym too because its like a word as well .

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Old 03-26-2013, 08:55 PM   #75213
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Reason to buy tools. Is there a consensus on a decent torque wrench to get?
I was thinking of picking one up. Don't need a snap-on but don't want to buy junk.
On the Wrenching Forum there is a discussion of all things Harbor Freight and actually the torque wrenchs get quite good reviews and super cheap.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:21 PM   #75214
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SNIP but I'm already past the 275 lbs. that I gave Cogent as an estimate for total weight and Kirk's panniers and racks would add an additional 30 to 35 lbs., so I'm not sure if I want that much additional weight added to an already fairly heavy set up or not. Cogent has suggested that I go with a set of .50 kg/mm RaceTech straight rate fork springs, they also sell a .55 set and a 8.4 kg/mm rear shock spring to go with their best shock, anything heavier would have to be a custom order. I also plan to install a set of Ricor Intiminators.
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Ride quality and desires are somewhat subjective. IMO, the numbers above should be about perfect for your weight and load. I'm not sure what the Ricor Intimidator guy recommends regards matching fork spring rates to his product. I'd ask him about that.

I'm about the same weight but don't often load the bike as heavily as you intend. I'm running straight rate .47 kg. fork springs, seems about right.
Race Tech Emulators, 10 wt. oil.

When I had the stock stock I had a 7.6 kg. spring. But the stock shock was so lacking that the spring was did not solve the problems. With your deluxe Cogent shock you should have good adjustment of compression and rebound levels ... and rebound that WORKS.

For me ... what is important when riding off road is plushness. Too stiff and you'll be careening off rocks, tires deflecting when they should not and feeling jolts on landings and sharp hits and hurt your wrists and hands.

The thing is ... you really DO want to use most of your 10" of travel. So YES ... on road the forks may dive some under braking! But with Intiminators, I hear they prevent fork dive. (I've never used them)

So... to me this means perhaps they are not so PLUSH off road? It's a hard balance to get to but once you ride a really well set up dirt bike ... you'll be in heaven as you float over that nasty rock creek bed. Not easy to achieve perfection but there are things you can do to get close.

Some tuning can be done beyond Spring Rates:
Forks:
Oil weight, oil height in fork tubes, preload spacer and Tuning Intiminators (or Race Tech Emulators). With my Emulators I can do further tuning by drilling more holes in the Damper Rods and changing the little rebound springs they provide in the kit.

Get everything right and it's not a bad set up. Won't match a full on Moto X upside down fork, but for most dual sport work it can be pretty good if you get everything right.

Shock:
Really comes down to having a low friction shock with sophisticated rebound circuits. Cogent know their business ... I'm sure you'll get all that ... if not, send in back to be re-worked.
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Old 03-26-2013, 09:34 PM   #75215
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You should get the cables Wednesday I leave for a dive trip Friday to the Bahamas for two weeks let me know when you get them.
I also have stock foot pegs and IMS pegs I put the high dollar pegs on. Paul

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Old 03-26-2013, 10:30 PM   #75216
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I'm about to place an order with Cogent Dynamics for a suspension upgrade to my '09 DR650 and I'd be interested in a spring rate comparison with what others have used. I'm around 200 lbs. with full winter riding gear, the bike has a 4.9 gal. IMS tank, 1 gal. RotopaX fuel container, skid plate, center stand, Happy-Trails side panel protector racks, all of the regular soft textile bags and the contents; front number plate, tank, tank panniers, sm. and md. dry duffle bags for camping gear, tail bag and saddlebags. I'm considering having a custom set of aluminum panniers and racks made by kirkster70 (see his posts at the "Garage" thread; he's no rookie!), but I'm already past the 275 lbs. that I gave Cogent as an estimate for total weight and Kirk's panniers and racks would add an additional 30 to 35 lbs., so I'm not sure if I want that much additional weight added to an already fairly heavy set up or not. Cogent has suggested that I go with a set of .50 kg/mm RaceTech straight rate fork springs, they also sell a .55 set and a 8.4 kg/mm rear shock spring to go with their best shock, anything heavier would have to be a custom order. I also plan to install a set of Ricor Intiminators. I tend to pack on the heavy side anyway and adding another 50 lbs. via the aluminum panniers and probably some other needless stuff would be no problem for me, but seeing as I plan to use the bike as a 50/50 dual sport, less is best and I know better than over loading a bike and then fighting it in the rough stuff. Any help would be appreciated.

Jeff
I'm about 225 lbs in my riding gear. I sometimes carry a 1 gal rotopax on a rear rack. I have Race Tech emulators and .70 straight rate springs in the front and 8.3 spring in the rear. I really like it. It's significantly stiffer than stock, but works really well for me. I ride street and forest service roads. I've ridden just a little bit of single track (prior to the mods). At the weight you're talking about, I'd consider .60 straight rate springs in the front.

You can go to Race Tech's website and check for your bike and put in your weight and riding style. If you ride more street you can go a step or two softer springs.

http://racetech.com/VehicleSearch

Unless you're set on a Cogent, Race Tech makes a shock shaft assembly for the rear shock and you can then get Race Tech springs front and rear to match your weight and riding style. Race Tech's shock shaft assembly is not a stock shaft, if that makes a difference to you.
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Old 03-26-2013, 10:49 PM   #75217
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Call ProCycle. Tell one of the sales guys Jeff said to send you a replacement
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You should get the cables Wednesday I leave for a dive trip Friday to the Bahamas for two weeks let me know when you get them.
I also have stock foot pegs and IMS pegs I put the high dollar pegs on. Paul
I'll let you know when they arrive.
I'll take the IMS pegs, at your convenience. No hurry, I have all summer. Price them to allow for shipping and the Paypal fee.


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Old 03-26-2013, 11:08 PM   #75218
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Yep, that's me.
Acronym challenged.
I don't text, don't have a smart phone either.
In fact the basic phone I have is smarter than me.

Over time and reading context I have figured out most of the acronyms but I still haven't found the REAL meaning for the acronym DR.

Desert Rat?
Design Reject?
Delta Rhino?
Dog Runner?
Duh Rapper?
Doo Run?
Dude Rancher?

What say you experts?

Damn Reliable...
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:40 PM   #75219
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Sweeeeettt.

I'll let you know when they arrive.
I'll take the IMS pegs, at your convenience. No hurry, I have all summer. Price them to allow for shipping and the Paypal fee.


I got the Pivot Pegz from Pro Cycle and love them but at $165. not many want to buy them so my IMS are seating out in the garage wanting to go ride. I am sure I will give a great deal. I will email when I get back from the Bahamas Apr-15 th.Paul
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Old 03-26-2013, 11:56 PM   #75220
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I got the Pivot Pegz from Pro Cycle and love them but at $165. not many want to buy them so my IMS are seating out in the garage wanting to go ride. I am sure I will give a great deal. I will email when I get back from the Bahamas Apr-15 th.Paul
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:14 AM   #75221
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I've got a short side stand if anyone wants it. Genuine Suzuki part, the silver one for lowered bikes. I ordered it because I thought I might need it when I went to a 19" front wheel but it's still ok. So it's just sat there now.

I'm based in Oz so sending within Oz would be easier, free to a good home if the postage isn't crazy or maybe the reciever would like to make an ADV donation

I'll post this in the Oz/Kiwi DR650 thread too.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:56 AM   #75222
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TD,

Didn't you adjust the 'pull' cable? If so, yes, you may need to slacken the 'push' cable to allow the butterfly to snap closed.

I know of a few folks that simply remove the 'push' cable as it's redundant (I have not but I did on my DR350SE). There's already a big return spring on the carburetor itself so why add another cable? Some opine that it's due to liability and the 'push' cable is some attorney's idea of how to reduce/eliminate said liability. YMMV.

So, adjust the 'pull' cable with slack in the 'push' cable. Then, remove the slack from the 'push' cable without binding things up. Extra slack in the 'push' cable won't harm anything.
Yes, you're right, I adjusted the pull cable meant to say 'push'. Will give this ago. thanks
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:19 AM   #75223
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Beautiful! Please post detailed pics of the finished bike.

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Old 03-27-2013, 06:18 AM   #75224
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Hey,
What do you guys think about these racks? Pretty good price, but haven't the foggiest about quality

http://www.pmracks.com/products.php?id=3

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Old 03-27-2013, 06:37 AM   #75225
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This is a good site:
http://www.acronymfinder.com/

acronyms are a subset of abbreviations that can also be pronounced as if they are a word themselves.

So, RFS is Rural Fire Service and hard to pronounce as a word, so its an abbreviation only, but TAFE, say, is an abbreviation for Technical And Further Education, and an acronym too because its like a word as well .
I worked for years in a job that was tied to the Federal Government.

Everytime we had to attend a seminar, I was shocked to hear them pronounce every odd grouping of letters. Awful.

BTW, I already went to Google to find out 2 abbreviations. TLA & FIFY.

I don't text either, but my phone is so old that I'm still smarter than MY phone.
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