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Old 03-27-2013, 09:54 AM   #75256
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I've been going back and forth over what to do with my rear shock.. do it myself (ProCycle kit, $300), send it to Moto-Pro (almost $480) or send it to Cogent ($600). The only one of the three that adds rebound is the Cogent setup, and I'm really inclined to go ahead and spend the money and do it the "right" way and send it there.

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I sent in my shock to Cogent about 3-4 weeks ago. I sent them an email yesterday for a status update but have not heard anything back. Maybe they are waiting for another shock to arrive to build a few. Send yours in, it might help me get mine back sooner. I will be ready to start putting by bike back together this Sunday and the following weekend.

BTW, I installed race tech springs and gold valves last Sunday.
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:55 AM   #75257
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Honestly, if they're going to sell a bike brand new on the showroom floor, they should be required to carry some basic maintenance parts for it. By way of example, I went to the Suzuki/Yamaha/Kawi/KTM dealer by my house because I needed chain, sprockets, and a countershaft retainer bolt for my DR. They had none of those things. Considering that those are a routine maintenance item, I was shocked that they didn't have anything available.

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Unfortunately, the ones who have those things in stock are likely to be the ones who are already in trouble because they can't manage their inventory properly. For most dealers there wouldn't be enough sales volume for those items to justify the up front cost of keeping those things on hand. 25 years ago any item on the shelf had to sell at least 4 times per year to be worth taking up shelf space and working capital. These days with lower margins and more part numbers that sales volume is more like 10 times per year. When you think of all the different parts for all the different models there is no realistic way a dealer is going to be able to keep on hand stock of the parts the owners of all those different models would expect to buy.
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:11 AM   #75258
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Honestly, if they're going to sell a bike brand new on the showroom floor, they should be required to carry some basic maintenance parts for it. By way of example, I went to the Suzuki/Yamaha/Kawi/KTM dealer by my house because I needed chain, sprockets, and a countershaft retainer bolt for my DR. They had none of those things. Considering that those are a routine maintenance item, I was shocked that they didn't have anything available.
bout 3 years ago i just gave up going to the dealers and get all the stuff we need right off the net, i would love to support those guys BUT time is money,
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:18 AM   #75259
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I have that rack. It works just fine and is plenty hurkey. I use it to lift the bike even.
The rack does look nicely made but I still question using that one light screw through the loop on the frame. I'm sure it's ok in the short term, but I prefer wider spacing on the mounts. I remember seeing posts about people breaking that part of the frame by using it as a carrier mount.

This one looks like a better design, imho.

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Old 03-27-2013, 11:29 AM   #75260
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Any Idea about pannier racks though? Everything online is so expensive, especially after shipping to ESTONIA (Europe), which is half the price of cheap racks. UK would be great, but I haven't found any racks on Ebay there, and am not sure about UK online rack dealer thingies.

Also, the racks would probably be used for soft luggage - so any idea about some good options there? There are some $50 throw-over panniers on ebay, but I slightly doubt their quality.

Thank you guys
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:41 AM   #75261
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"Is that bad?"

While helping out a friend who's brand new to riding...we took off the seat to run new turn signal wires. Luckily the previous owner had installed the jet kit and cut the top of the airbox. It was quite a shock to see the collection of stuff that a mouse used to make a nice little home out of...

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Old 03-27-2013, 01:30 PM   #75262
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The Race Tech Shock Shaft Assembly adds rebound. I realize it isn't one in your list so I thought I'd throw that out there. It's also got a larger shaft than stock, which may be better (I'm not saying it is) if Cogent rebuilds the stock shock using the stock shock shaft.
Yes, the Cogent rebuild uses a larger diameter shaft than stock.
The only part of the original DR shock that is retained is the aluminum body.
And you can have them hard anodize that with a mil-spec coating for longer life if you want.
I got my second shock back from Cogent a few weeks ago and with their bling ring and everything rebuilt all new internals, adjusters, even the bump cushion, (but no spring or anodizing) and it was under $500 including shipping too and from Alaska.
Or from and too I should say.

Now both my Dual Sport DR and my Street Tracker DR have excellent suspension.
And if it ever stops snowing here I am looking forward to riding them!
We got 18" dumped on us this weekend where I live.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:36 PM   #75263
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Honestly, if they're going to sell a bike brand new on the showroom floor, they should be required to carry some basic maintenance parts for it. By way of example, I went to the Suzuki/Yamaha/Kawi/KTM dealer by my house because I needed chain, sprockets, and a countershaft retainer bolt for my DR. They had none of those things. Considering that those are a routine maintenance item, I was shocked that they didn't have anything available.
Yeah, from a bike ownership point of view that would be nice. But why? They can get the sprockets in a couple of days. They have to stock what they know they can sell if they want any hope of staying in business. If they have any sense they won't even try to stock items that don't sell at least one every 2 months. Parts that don't move are a money losing drain on dealer operating capital.

If a Suzuki dealer was required to stock sprockets for every Suzuki model there would certainly be many other better selling items that they would have to avoid having on hand - even though they knew the other items were a better investment. You couldn't run a business that way very long.
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:39 PM   #75264
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Yes, the Cogent rebuild uses a larger diameter shaft than stock.
The Cogent shaft is the same diameter as stock - 14mm. The Race Tech shaft is larger - 16mm. It's a small difference but the larger shaft can have a larger contact area with the bushing in the seal head.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:12 PM   #75265
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The Cogent shaft is the same diameter as stock - 14mm. The Race Tech shaft is larger - 16mm. It's a small difference but the larger shaft can have a larger contact area with the bushing in the seal head.
That was my understanding, but Rick never answered my question about the shaft diameter (as far as I know) .

Personally, I would say it's a significant difference, as the Race Tech is roughly 15% larger than stock. Also, I know the Race Tech one is definitely larger than stock because I measured them side-by-side.
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Old 03-27-2013, 02:35 PM   #75266
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Call ProCycle. Tell one of the sales guys Jeff said to send you a replacement
Thanks for the great service, got a new one on the way.
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:21 PM   #75267
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:34 PM   #75268
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:06 PM   #75269
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While helping out a friend who's brand new to riding...we took off the seat to run new turn signal wires. Luckily the previous owner had installed the jet kit and cut the top of the airbox. It was quite a shock to see the collection of stuff that a mouse used to make a nice little home out of...
That's not as bad as the F650GS single I saw where mice had made a nest of straw in the airbox and the guy ran it that way until it quit 15 minutes later. A bunch of the straw made its way into the combustion chamber and compressed and fractured the top of the piston. Pushed it down so far that the rings couldn't be removed.

That cost a lot to fix but insurance paid the bill.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:27 PM   #75270
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Yeah, from a bike ownership point of view that would be nice. But why? They can get the sprockets in a couple of days. They have to stock what they know they can sell if they want any hope of staying in business. If they have any sense they won't even try to stock items that don't sell at least one every 2 months. Parts that don't move are a money losing drain on dealer operating capital.

If a Suzuki dealer was required to stock sprockets for every Suzuki model there would certainly be many other better selling items that they would have to avoid having on hand - even though they knew the other items were a better investment. You couldn't run a business that way very long.
I could see the "space" argument being valid for things like side panels and fuel tanks, but sprockets just don't take up much space. I'm not asking them to stock multiple sizes or anything crazy, but I figure Suzuki carries maybe 10-15 different new models on their show room floor (3 GSX-R's, DR650, DRZ400, GSXF1250A, and their dirt bikes). I might be missing a few, but even figuring 15 separate models, you could carry a couple spares for each one and still only have to have a storage space the size of a large shoe box. Of course, that isn't practical and I do get that, but not stocking basic maintenance items for bikes you're selling is a huge reason why people will just go somewhere else.

Now, the little family/friend owned dealers in Albuquerque that just deal in used bikes....those guys are the bomb. I'd buy a bike from them as soon as money appeared in my account.
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