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Old 03-29-2013, 09:27 AM   #75301
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ok.
i guess the answer is "its bad".
like I said, its not a gasket issue - at least not a mount-gasket issue.
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Old 03-29-2013, 10:29 AM   #75302
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I've lived in Colorado nearly all my life, and I've never seen a tire, moto or car, that froze and broke. You may be right but it gets below freezing here a lot, from Sept to May.

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Temps get cold enough in some places on this planet that even M&S-rated all-season tires turn to a substance like black glass, and can possibly crack/shatter. Colorado aint one of those places. It doesn't typically get cold enough there.

In at least some provinces of Canada, many moto tires aren't even LEGAL to ride on during certain months, whether there is snow on the ground or not. Many moto tire compounds are not M&S-rated all-season compounds.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:12 AM   #75303
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Colorado aint one of those places. It doesn't typically get cold enough there.
Not typically encountered, but the state record is -61F...
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:36 AM   #75304
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does anybody have a rear brake pedal for sale.? I crashed and bent mine.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:48 AM   #75305
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Not typically encountered, but the state record is -61F...
Pah, we don't even need our winter parkas for that up here in Canada. Seriously though, the coldest I ever worked in when on the rigs was -55C (-67F), WITH a breeze. You were good for about 20 minutes in that before you had to head inside to warm up. Never seen tires crack like that and spent over 30 years with winter temps regularly hovering around -35C or colder.
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Old 03-29-2013, 11:54 AM   #75306
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Temps get cold enough in some places on this planet that even M&S-rated all-season tires turn to a substance like black glass, and can possibly crack/shatter. Colorado aint one of those places. It doesn't typically get cold enough there.

In at least some provinces of Canada, many moto tires aren't even LEGAL to ride on during certain months, whether there is snow on the ground or not. Many moto tire compounds are not M&S-rated all-season compounds.
Several years ago I had to buy a tire for my DL650 while riding in Mexico. Since most bikes in country are smaller ones its damned hard to find tires for big bikes down there but I finally located the right size at the BMW dealer in Hemosila. I ended up with a Pirelli Scorpion that worked great on the DL during the rest of that summer and gave me the best durability I'd ever seen. I liked it so much that I tried to replace it with another back in the USA. Sorry Charlie, that tire is not available north of the border because the "compound was not approved for US winter temperatures"
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Old 03-29-2013, 01:20 PM   #75307
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They also say...

Only specially trained persons should mount tires.

To seat tire bead,never exceed the following pressure:
Motorcycle Tires : Do not exceed 57 P.S.I.

Use extreme caution when riding on new tires.
Avoid sudden acceleration,maximum braking,and hard cornering for first 100 miles.


Purely legal, covering their asses, spiel.
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:00 PM   #75308
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All of us know that heat and cold impact the physical properties and performance of metal, rubber, liquid, and other substances. And at some point it is cold enough -- or hot enough, that special consideration must be given to the compound in tires, motor oils, glass composition ... etc.

And that on the extreme edges in places like Alaska, Siberia, the polar ice caps, and perhaps the equatorial countries in the middle.

For the rest of us the same "strike the balance" products we have used all our lives will suffice. For my part, if Bridgestone or anyone else thinks I'm going to go into an anal retentive panic over a marketing ploy of winter or summer tires, they can look for me to shop with vendors who have not lost their minds.

But those of you who want to go ahead and drink that kool aid have at it. The rest of us will enjoy the entertaining past-time of observing your neurotic conniptions...
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:47 PM   #75309
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Agreed, I am in no way saying this is common, just that it is a possibility
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Old 03-29-2013, 02:55 PM   #75310
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Dang, I hope I don't get outbid on this one!
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Old 03-29-2013, 03:23 PM   #75311
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For my part, if Bridgestone or anyone else thinks I'm going to go into an anal retentive panic over a marketing ploy of winter or summer tires, they can look for me to shop with vendors who have not lost their minds.

The rest of us will enjoy the entertaining past-time of observing your neurotic conniptions...
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Old 03-29-2013, 05:47 PM   #75312
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Managed to put about 100 miles on the bike today. Had a lot of fun, though, the roads are still quite muddy. Here's a photo of the DR and one of my new helmet:

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Old 03-29-2013, 05:56 PM   #75313
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Nice bike

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Old 03-29-2013, 05:59 PM   #75314
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Pah, we don't even need our winter parkas for that up here in Canada. Seriously though, the coldest I ever worked in when on the rigs was -55C (-67F), WITH a breeze. You were good for about 20 minutes in that before you had to head inside to warm up. Never seen tires crack like that and spent over 30 years with winter temps regularly hovering around -35C or colder.
I'm guessing that they don't sell many summer-compound tires for on-road use in Canada. All-season or winter compounds are likely to be the norm there. They can tolerate some ungodly cold before cracking. I don't expect to see snow tires that last 40K+ miles through Death Valley summer temps.

I have trouble finding windshield washer fluid down here that doesn't freeze at 32F. The autoparts stores here must not think anybody ever drives further north than Daytona.

Marketing is just yanking our chains about summer, all-season, and winter compounds? I don't see why they'd bother. I buy name-brand UHP all-season tires for my car for around $50/ea. I see summer tires for less and more. What difference does it make? Does 0W30 oil cost much different from 15W40? One works better for winter temps. One works better for summer temps.
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Old 03-29-2013, 06:15 PM   #75315
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motorcycle tires may crack in the tread area from impact or deformation at low ambient temperatures

Note it says in tread area, not the sidewall, and from impact, not from being stored in a cold garage. If the tires had any chance of failing apart in below freezing tempsthey wouldn't be sold for liability issues or you'd have to sign waivers out the kazoo.
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