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Old 04-07-2013, 01:16 PM   #75526
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No fantasy. His 690 has a lot of problems. Don't take it so personal it has no reflection on you so calm down. Lol I've own many KTM s and will own an 1190 soon.
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LOL, out of a whole paragraph talking about carbs and exhausts for the DR that's what you pulled out. I think the term "physician, heal thyself" applies there. FWIW, the facts are that my DR hasn't grenaded third gear yet.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:35 PM   #75527
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Just took my DR out for a quick ride to see if the heated gear was working, and the bike is running like a pig. About 1/4 throttle it sounds like someone's shutting off the ignition repeatedly as the bike is bucking really violently. This is pretty much the first ride of the year, so the gas is about 5 months old, though I did have fuel conditioner in it.

I think I might have some blocked jets. Possibly moisture in the fuel? As far as I know there's no Ethanol in the bike - we try to fill up at stations which don't blend.

Should I tear into it or put some methyl hydrate in to see if I can clear the jets first try first?
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:37 PM   #75528
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Bad miss at speed?

My DR has been running very well, stocked rejetted cark, open airbox, Staintune exhaust, good throttle response etc. Just replaced the Pro Cycle remote chock knob. So today I would get an engine cut out usually at 77 mph in top gear when accelerating (geared down a tooth on the CS), also in 4th at the proportionally slower speed. Cuts out for a second, seems to be completely, causing the bike to lurch forward and then it catches again and transfers the weight back, no fun in a curve on knobbies. I did change out the choke know but moving the choke when riding doesn't seem to replicate the issue. I had just recently filled up with gas but the bike runs fine except for the higher rpm cut up that really feels electrical, like the engine looses spark/ignition under higher combustion pressures??? Then the last 10 miles home I couldn't replicate it. Kept getting hard on the gas up towards 80 in 5th and it was fine. I was planning on going to Utah at the end of the week . For fixing the chock I had the tank off so it is possible I dislodged something. Certainly seemed electrical but ????? Any ideas. The bike is a 98, maybe the purple is going strange.
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:50 PM   #75529
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Check fuel filters first. Small one in the fuel line and external if added.

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Just took my DR out for a quick ride to see if the heated gear was working, and the bike is running like a pig. About 1/4 throttle it sounds like someone's shutting off the ignition repeatedly as the bike is bucking really violently. This is pretty much the first ride of the year, so the gas is about 5 months old, though I did have fuel conditioner in it.

I think I might have some blocked jets. Possibly moisture in the fuel? As far as I know there's no Ethanol in the bike - we try to fill up at stations which don't blend.

Should I tear into it or put some methyl hydrate in to see if I can clear the jets first try first?
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Old 04-07-2013, 01:51 PM   #75530
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Check fuel filters first. Small one in the fuel line and external if added.

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My DR has been running very well, stocked rejetted cark, open airbox, Staintune exhaust, good throttle response etc. Just replaced the Pro Cycle remote chock knob. So today I would get an engine cut out usually at 77 mph in top gear when accelerating (geared down a tooth on the CS), also in 4th at the proportionally slower speed. Cuts out for a second, seems to be completely, causing the bike to lurch forward and then it catches again and transfers the weight back, no fun in a curve on knobbies. I did change out the choke know but moving the choke when riding doesn't seem to replicate the issue. I had just recently filled up with gas but the bike runs fine except for the higher rpm cut up that really feels electrical, like the engine looses spark/ignition under higher combustion pressures??? Then the last 10 miles home I couldn't replicate it. Kept getting hard on the gas up towards 80 in 5th and it was fine. I was planning on going to Utah at the end of the week . For fixing the chock I had the tank off so it is possible I dislodged something. Certainly seemed electrical but ????? Any ideas. The bike is a 98, maybe the purple is going strange.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:08 PM   #75531
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LOL, out of a whole paragraph talking about carbs and exhausts for the DR that's what you pulled out. I think the term "physician, heal thyself" applies there. FWIW, the facts are that my DR hasn't grenaded third gear yet.
Guys like you are a riot ! And easy to wind up.
Im sitting right now with Bruce (2 time USA ISDE rider and 2 time ECEA Grand Champion, owns a 990, SE and the 08 690) in his living room. I showed him your concern for his bike and he laughed of course "What's he give a rats ass about my bike for, it's not like you talking about his mother"

But hey, as funny as it is, it's also getting juvenile, so to get off the subject and back to the DR, and so you can sleep tonight, I'll proclaim, my friend who lives half way around the world from Albie, Bruce Kenny's 690 is the most dead nuts reliable bike he has ever ridden or I ever had the honor to ridden with.

No harm or ill intent was meant Albie me boy.
You live in a cool country though, been there once, Sydney, "The rock", Kings Canyon, and the Whitsunday Islands on the GBR. Unfortunately not on a bike though.
Very cool
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:28 PM   #75532
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Check fuel filters first. Small one in the fuel line and external if added.

Echo , Well I need a new filter, threw out the little carb inlet filter and the add on plastic see through seemed to have melted perhaps from ethanol. The on off nature of the miss and only at a certain level of power on leads me to electrons but open to other notions.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:38 PM   #75533
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Another broken top roller... on my '96.
It didn't tear a huge chunk out, fortunately. Mostly just the nut itself.
Got lucky on that one.at least you don't have to plug it.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:05 PM   #75534
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Check fuel filters first. Small one in the fuel line and external if added.
Little inline filter clean as a whistle. Removed float bowl; it looked ok. Drained it anyway.

Removed main jet; it looked ok too. Blew some air through it just for the hell of it.

Wife suggested draining the fuel and putting fresh gas in so I drained it and rode on what was left in the tank and the bike ran like a clock on the way to the gas station.

So whatever it was is now fixed.
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:42 PM   #75535
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:09 PM   #75536
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Thumb Cogent shocks at PC now!

HUH?
When'd that happen??

I checked the PC site today to place a little order (yeah, right!) and see that they are now selling Cogent shocks, rebuild kits, and the Cogent "Bling Ring" that is so slick.
They do say "coming soon" so everything may not be available yet.

Excellent!

Two thumbs up for Rick at Cogent and for Jeff at Procycle.

There are a few other new items on the DR page at PC too if, like me, you haven't looked recently.

Or, if you are trying to budget your money like me, DON'T LOOK!
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:11 PM   #75537
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Yeah, noticed that the other day. Interesting. I wonder why Jeff didn't build his own shock, instead of re-selling Cogent's.

There are so many options now it's hard to know what's best. Most expensive, Cogent?
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Old 04-07-2013, 05:23 PM   #75538
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Has anyone used silicon or sealant to seal the inside of the wheel so that if you did get a flat, it would slow the air leaking from the tube? Kinda like trying to make a tubeless setup but still using the tube?

Just wondering if anyone has went through the trouble of doing so...been thinking about sealing mine the next time I change tubes and tires, which are in my garage waiting.
This is not a bad idea, IMO. You achieve two things:
1. sealing the wheel may not make it air tight ... but will most definitely slow air loss if you get a puncture. With tubes you can have INSTANT AIR LOSS. Going 70 mph, mid corner and having instant air loss on your front tire is not a good thing. The sealing could mitigate air loss ... enough to give you warning and get off the road.

2. A minor puncture could be just a "slow leak" instead of a flat, and could give you time to pick your repair spot ... or just air it up once in a while and continue.
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:09 PM   #75539
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Just ordered two sets of Warp 9 levers for our DRs. Since my wife and I are selling our BMW F650 and 800GS, it just makes sense to farkle the bikes we want to keep.

Long live simple bikes!
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:13 PM   #75540
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Two thumbs up for Rick at Cogent and for Jeff at Procycle.
Yeah, Rick and I think this will be a good fit.
The plan is for ProCycle to build up enough inventory of 'Cogent Built' shocks to be able to sell them on an exchange basis rather than the old way of sending a shock to Cogent and having the bike down for a couple weeks. It also should be easier for Rick as he will be running ProCycle shocks in batches without having to coordinate the anodizing with several separate shock customers.
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