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Old 04-15-2013, 10:49 AM   #75796
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I am looking for the stock (standard) kick stand. The one that I have was cut to accommodate the lowering of the rear shock by the previous owner. If anyone has one or know where I can get one that would be great. Thanks in advance.
I know my question is not as exciting as a suspension or clutch but I would have thought someone would have some kind of answer (let's keep it nice now)

I'll check back in later today. Oh yeah, BTW, I am almost complete with setting this bike up to my liking and needs. Once I am done I will post some details and before and after picks.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:00 AM   #75797
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I read stock is 6.5 kg/mm. You can have my stock spring if you want a stock one.
thanks I may take you up on that. I think I'd be happier with about 7 or 7.2. Of course I am not positive if the spring I have is 8.0. I'm assuming the previous owner is correct. He seemed pretty knowledgabe tho.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:02 AM   #75798
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I know my question is not as exciting as a suspension or clutch but I would have thought someone would have some kind of answer (let's keep it nice now)

I'll check back in later today. Oh yeah, BTW, I am almost complete with setting this bike up to my liking and needs. Once I am done I will post some details and before and after picks.
Best you can do is keep an eye on Flea Market. Search DR650 in Parts forum. I see stock side stands for sale there from time to time.

Or ... you could lengthen the stand back to stock length. A good welder or machinist should be able to do that for you.
I would be sure your rear suspension is SET before you decide on a side stand length. If you end up with a stiffer spring or lowering or rising links ... this will change ride height and will also change side stand relationship. So do the side stand LAST.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:16 AM   #75799
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thanks I may take you up on that. I think I'd be happier with about 7 or 7.2. Of course I am not positive if the spring I have is 8.0. I'm assuming the previous owner is correct. He seemed pretty knowledgabe tho.
I don't know what you weigh or your riding style, but yeah, I wouldn't go with a stock spring unless you're 140 pounds riding solely on the street. I currently have an 8.1 spring and it's slightly too stiff. I'm using 2/3 to 3/4 of the total travel even when getting a little air (small jumps) from time to time.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:42 AM   #75800
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Cleaning the rub marks on the tank.http://www.amazon.com/Nu-Finish-Liquid-Car-Polish/dp/B000BPSW7C

I'm not fanatical about it but enjoy keeping up the appearance of the bike. The Nu Finish is a fine enough compound to remove stains and fine scratches.
Thanks for the link, I added it to my earlier photo so it wouldn't be missed.
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Old 04-15-2013, 11:52 AM   #75801
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I don't know what you weigh or your riding style, but yeah, I wouldn't go with a stock spring unless you're 140 pounds riding solely on the street. I currently have an 8.1 spring and it's slightly too stiff. I'm using 2/3 to 3/4 of the total travel even when getting a little air (small jumps) from time to time.
According the Paul Thede (Race Tech founder) you should be using ALL your suspension travel ... and on severe, high speed hits or big jumps its normal to bottom out the shock. On the DR it would be nice to be using about 75% to 85% of travel in most normal riding conditions. For a good plush ride you want to ride high in the travel for normal road travel ... but the suspension should be able to respond to harsh hits and use MOST of its allowed travel.

The key is the quality of the rebound. The stock shock is NOT GOOD in this regard. A quality rebound circuit is what you really need to provide good control and stability under hard use.
I would go to a 7.6 kgs. spring, adjust preload as needed.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:06 PM   #75802
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According the Paul Thede (Race Tech founder) you should be using ALL your suspension travel ... and on severe, high speed hits or big jumps its normal to bottom out the shock. On the DR it would be nice to be using about 75% to 85% of travel in most normal riding conditions. For a good plush ride you want to ride high in the travel for normal road travel ... but the suspension should be able to respond to harsh hits and use MOST of its allowed travel.

The key is the quality of the rebound. The stock shock is NOT GOOD in this regard. A quality rebound circuit is what you really need to provide good control and stability under hard use.
I would go to a 7.6 kgs. spring, adjust preload as needed.
No doubt. My Race Tech seems to work perfectly, got my preload set right where it should be (for dirt bikes), but I think my shock spring is one "step" too stiff for most riding; however, using 2/3 - 3/4 isn't loaded up for travel or full gear. At 2/3 - 3/4 of full travel I'm about 20 lbs - 50+ lbs shy of my fully dressed and "loaded" weight. The rebound provided by the Race Tech assembly is about as good as it gets (remembering the best you (me) ever had is the best you know). I do think I'm close to being between spring rates. 7.6 might be better, but 8.1 is working really well for my weight and riding style.

I haven't tried to change or experiment with compression damping.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:08 PM   #75803
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I am amazed at my gas milage consistency on my DR. I ride it hard I ge† 40 MPG, I ride it easy I get 40 MPG, I throw on a Givi topbox that I used to use on my Strom, which would drop the mileage on that bike about 3 MPG. But on my DR, I still get 40 MPG. What an odd bike.
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Old 04-15-2013, 12:18 PM   #75804
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There are many arenas of adventure riding. This bike surely qualifies. I see it as a great ride for jeep trails and gravel roads. Adventure riding doesn't have to been done in foreign countries as I enjoy doing.

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Old 04-15-2013, 01:48 PM   #75805
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First Dual Sport

I just joined the DR650 club.

This is my first bike that I am using to commute to work and explore the fire roads near my house in East Mesa.

I picked up the bike for really good deal with low miles. This thread has so much info...I might have to take a few days off to read 5,000 pages of posts.

Not sure how to upload pics. Do I need to put them online first, or can I upload straight from the desktop?

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Old 04-15-2013, 02:00 PM   #75806
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Exactly. It's a cool looking custom but you couldn't ride it where my "adventures" go.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:03 PM   #75807
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I just joined the DR650 club.

This is my first bike that I am using to commute to work and explore the fire roads near my house in East Mesa.

I picked up the bike for really good deal with low miles. This thread has so much info...I might have to take a few days off to read 5,000 pages of posts.

Not sure how to upload pics. Do I need to put them online first, or can I upload straight from the desktop?

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Welcome aboard. Yeah, it's going to take a while to catch up. East Mesa, Where? CO? Pics need to be hosted on-line and then you can link to them. No more uploads.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:05 PM   #75808
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According the Paul Thede (Race Tech founder) you should be using ALL your suspension travel ... and on severe, high speed hits or big jumps its normal to bottom out the shock. On the DR it would be nice to be using about 75% to 85% of travel in most normal riding conditions. For a good plush ride you want to ride high in the travel for normal road travel ... but the suspension should be able to respond to harsh hits and use MOST of its allowed travel.
+1 Always amazes me when people talk about how undersprung the DR is. Underdamped, yes. But you'd have to be a BIG boy to compress some of these high rate springs people say they need. As a motard I agree you want stiff suspension, as a dual sport bike not so much.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:22 PM   #75809
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I currently have an 8.1 spring and it's slightly too stiff. I'm using 2/3 to 3/4 of the total travel even when getting a little air (small jumps) from time to time.
This would be more useful if we knew what your weight is.
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Old 04-15-2013, 02:37 PM   #75810
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thanks I may take you up on that. I think I'd be happier with about 7 or 7.2. Of course I am not positive if the spring I have is 8.0. I'm assuming the previous owner is correct. He seemed pretty knowledgabe tho.
For reference, I weigh 210 in riding gear + a 17 pound tailbag. Even on easy pavement rides, I bottom the 6.5 on my Cogent shock. A 7.x is in my plans.

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I just joined the DR650 club.

This is my first bike that I am using to commute to work and explore the fire roads near my house in East Mesa.

I picked up the bike for really good deal with low miles. This thread has so much info...I might have to take a few days off to read 5,000 pages of posts.

Not sure how to upload pics. Do I need to put them online first, or can I upload straight from the desktop?

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Welcome. The easy way to get onboard is just go back 100 pages and start reading. We cover the same subjects over and over, like being lost in The Twilight Zone.
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