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Old 04-29-2013, 08:04 AM   #76201
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Some interesting comments about the Bent frame. Shame.
But there are specialists who can straighten frames properly. We have a guy out here in Sacramento, California called The Frame Man. He mostly straightens bent race bikes. Impressive results.

Using Laser alignment, specialized Jigs and hydraulic presses ... those guys have straightened up hundreds of wasted bikes. These specialists are rare, no idea if the OP has any such shops in his region, but might be worth it to look around.

In normal circumstances ... as mentioned ... that frame would be junked. But if the buyer is over a barrel money wise, then straightening might be solution?

If the steering is off it could be simply tweaked forks (easily fixed in 5 minutes) or tweaked rubber dampers below the bar mounts on top triple clamp. Also easy fix ... just push them the opposite way. Bent bars are rare
but with the crash that bike was in, certainly possible. Bars are cheap.
Replace if needed.

If after the forks are straightened (just loosen clamps and tighten back up) and bars are straight in dampers, the bike still is "off" when riding, then its likely the FRAME is not straight.

Weird handling is the other obvious tell tale. Handling should be 100%
neutral. If not ?? ... well, do what you can to fix it.
I have a feeling if the Frame Man looked at that frame he would pass as its destroyed/kinked/badly straightened already.
Its a total not a slightly bent frame, and every weld and tube on the rest of it would be suspect. Considering how cheap a DR can be had with a blown engine its not worth it trying to save that frame.
Its a 400 lb bike,that frame could easily come apart elsewhere.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:05 AM   #76202
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What's been done to that frame has created weak points and places where the frame will crumple in a much lower impact. Stiffening that area may or may not be a good idea, but ultimately it will need to be replaced. Even at $1600 for a new frame that's not too much money for a 2011 with only ~3000 miles.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:17 AM   #76203
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the guy will not return my text or a stern voice mail with me asking for an explanation. he knew
I'd be getting in touch with law enforcement. Probably Motor Vehicle Dept.

Sue in small claims court if you must. This was fraud, and if you sell the bike in this condition, without disclosure you will be the one who gets sued.

You were sold a vehicle that is "unfit" for safe operation. Get your money back by whatever means necessary. Or at least enough for a new frame + time spent swapping it.

Best of luck.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:22 AM   #76204
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quick plug for Chaingang sprockets from australia. the following photos are from my DR after 36 000km most of it through rain, mud, sand and rocks on a fully loaded RTW DR that had a pretty average maintenance routine. also ive got a set of brand new sprockets from chaingang over in the flea market (ordered 525 like an idiot when i wanted 520, no selling the 525s so i can afford some 520s).




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Old 04-29-2013, 08:42 AM   #76205
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As for me,I wouldnt ride a bike with a frame that looked like that. The thought of a frame breaking and being crooked to start with is not a good one.
It had to be REALLY bent to have to make the backbone look like that to sorta straighten it.
Going by his place with a cop in tow would be fun.
My thoughts exactly. I wouldn't trust that frame at all no matter how much bracing was added.
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Old 04-29-2013, 08:55 AM   #76206
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josh, if your on this forum (don't know if he is an inmate)....go f yourself
Like the others have said. Contact the law, keep after him, never let a thief get away with it. What if that insufficient repair had led to catastrophic failure?
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:22 PM   #76207
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I thought my new (to me) dr was a bit short, so I peeked at the dogbone, and sure enough it could come up. So up it went, and it's more comfortable for me now.
Only, the sides stand is now too short. Any shorter stature Utah residents want to trade with me?
It's a stock looking unit, real nice, but a light grey, not dark like the rest of the bike's steel. It doesn't look like a chopped job, but probably aftermarket, judging by the quality of the welds and paint.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:37 PM   #76208
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I have a feeling if the Frame Man looked at that frame he would pass as its destroyed/kinked/badly straightened already.
Its a total not a slightly bent frame, and every weld and tube on the rest of it would be suspect. Considering how cheap a DR can be had with a blown engine its not worth it trying to save that frame.
Its a 400 lb bike,that frame could easily come apart elsewhere.
I suspect you are correct. The Frame Man would most likely avoid due to liability given it's a street bike. It'd be a Lose/Lose for him. I've seen some Alu beam frames he straightened on race bikes ... but very minor bends compared to that poor DR.

I've used the Frame Man many times over the years to straighten bent wheels. (TDM 850, VFR800, KTM Duke ll, V-Strom). The V Strom cast wheel eventually cracked all the way across. New owner had to replace the wheel. He lucked out, found a used one cheap.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:48 PM   #76209
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April 29, 2013

Here's a video detailing why I chose the Suzuki DR650 as my bike of choice for my three-year motorcycle journey from Chicago to Delhi and then specifically, what are all the features on sanDRina that bring her up to Adventure Spec

Details on Aqualine Safari Tank, Pivot Pegz, WER Steering Stabilizer, Fork Brace, Happy Trails Panniers, Vapor Dash Computer, Galfer Rotors, Answer Handlebar, Ricoh Intiminator, Touratech GPS Mount, Vision X LED Lights, Suzuki GSX-R1000 Titanium Exhaust, Scotts Stainless Steel Oil Filter and more...



(this video was shot before I properly set the valves, so they sound really loud )

Click here for more Videos
Thanks for the Video Jay. Well done Vid!! (next time? a lavalier mic .. remember, I'm a movie sound man!)

Well done explanations of all your good mods. I loved your emphasis on simplicity. The DR650 certainly has that. But it's also got just plain good engineering and QUALITY parts. The Suzuki SACS system is, in large part, why the "air cooled" motor lasts so well and survives abuse. It's brilliant engineering, elegant and simple.

I had predicted your switch fuse block would fail. You proved me wrong! Well done Jay! Well thought out and well executed wiring mods can survive
60,000 miles of Hell! Hope you can keep your ride report going after India and let us all know what you end up doing.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:52 PM   #76210
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Question Sump oil screen accessibility

Anybody know how accessible the sump oil screen is on the DR?

Its #10 in this diagram http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_sectio...0#.UX649MqQOyA

I had my oil sight glass poked out (actually in) by a downed tree branch and am trying to flush out the engine. Details here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=882879

Based on peering in from the left side where I have the clutch cover off, I think the sump oil screen is only accessible by splitting the cases. But there is a slim chance it could be accessible under the stator cover. Anybody know for sure?

Alternatively, does anyone have any good photos of what it looks like under the stator cover. Need a view that is very low, without the stator in place or the area below the stator.

BTW, this is the cliff jumping DR made famous by my crash video. After scores of hours, I finally got it running this weekend and then this freak incident happened two hours into my first shakedown ride.
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:54 PM   #76211
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output seal

Had leaking output seal on bike i just bought it popped out when seller delivered it which he assured me it was just seal so bought new seal and fitted started up within 10 secounds popped seal out i removed breather from crankcase by starter and it is breathing ok from there , are there any other breathers on dr 650 also anyone had anything similar
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:17 PM   #76212
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That's a great video Jay, glad to see you're doin great & on the move again soon...safe travels to you!

[QUOTE=Jammin;21291423]April 29, 2013

Here's a video detailing why I chose the Suzuki DR650 as my bike of choice for my three-year motorcycle journey from Chicago to Delhi and then specifically, what are all the features on sanDRina that bring her up to Adventure Spec
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:23 PM   #76213
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Anybody know how accessible the sump oil screen is on the DR?

Its #10 in this diagram http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_sectio...0#.UX649MqQOyA

I had my oil sight glass poked out (actually in) by a downed tree branch and am trying to flush out the engine. Details here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=882879

Based on peering in from the left side where I have the clutch cover off, I think the sump oil screen is only accessible by splitting the cases. But there is a slim chance it could be accessible under the stator cover. Anybody know for sure?

Alternatively, does anyone have any good photos of what it looks like under the stator cover. Need a view that is very low, without the stator in place or the area below the stator.

BTW, this is the cliff jumping DR made famous by my crash video. After scores of hours, I finally got it running this weekend and then this freak incident happened two hours into my first shakedown ride.
We'll see you at Rio Nido for more cliff stories?
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:25 PM   #76214
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Anybody know how accessible the sump oil screen is on the DR?... I think the sump oil screen is only accessible by splitting the cases...
Yes, easily accessible... after splitting the cases
There are a few pics here --> http://www.procycle.us/info/articles/dr650/dr900.html
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Old 04-29-2013, 01:43 PM   #76215
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Yes, easily accessible... after splitting the cases
There are a few pics here --> http://www.procycle.us/info/articles/dr650/dr900.html
Thanks for the confirmation. Splitting the cases? Not going to happen. I'll manage.
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