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Old 04-29-2013, 12:17 PM   #76246
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That's a great video Jay, glad to see you're doin great & on the move again soon...safe travels to you!

[QUOTE=Jammin;21291423]April 29, 2013

Here's a video detailing why I chose the Suzuki DR650 as my bike of choice for my three-year motorcycle journey from Chicago to Delhi and then specifically, what are all the features on sanDRina that bring her up to Adventure Spec
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:23 PM   #76247
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Anybody know how accessible the sump oil screen is on the DR?

Its #10 in this diagram http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_sectio...0#.UX649MqQOyA

I had my oil sight glass poked out (actually in) by a downed tree branch and am trying to flush out the engine. Details here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=882879

Based on peering in from the left side where I have the clutch cover off, I think the sump oil screen is only accessible by splitting the cases. But there is a slim chance it could be accessible under the stator cover. Anybody know for sure?

Alternatively, does anyone have any good photos of what it looks like under the stator cover. Need a view that is very low, without the stator in place or the area below the stator.

BTW, this is the cliff jumping DR made famous by my crash video. After scores of hours, I finally got it running this weekend and then this freak incident happened two hours into my first shakedown ride.
We'll see you at Rio Nido for more cliff stories?
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:25 PM   #76248
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Anybody know how accessible the sump oil screen is on the DR?... I think the sump oil screen is only accessible by splitting the cases...
Yes, easily accessible... after splitting the cases
There are a few pics here --> http://www.procycle.us/info/articles/dr650/dr900.html
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Old 04-29-2013, 12:43 PM   #76249
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Yes, easily accessible... after splitting the cases
There are a few pics here --> http://www.procycle.us/info/articles/dr650/dr900.html
Thanks for the confirmation. Splitting the cases? Not going to happen. I'll manage.
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:02 PM   #76250
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Had leaking output seal on bike i just bought it popped out when seller delivered it which he assured me it was just seal so bought new seal and fitted started up within 10 secounds popped seal out i removed breather from crankcase by starter and it is breathing ok from there , are there any other breathers on dr 650 also anyone had anything similar

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http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html#engine
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:25 PM   #76251
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Get one of these from Procycle for less than $25.






http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html#engine
Thanks LIL Steve is this common fault then i was thinking must be blocked breather would they ship to uk
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Old 04-29-2013, 02:27 PM   #76252
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Anybody know how accessible the sump oil screen is on the DR?

Its #10 in this diagram http://www.mrcycles.com/fiche_sectio...0#.UX649MqQOyA

I had my oil sight glass poked out (actually in) by a downed tree branch and am trying to flush out the engine. Details here: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=882879

Based on peering in from the left side where I have the clutch cover off, I think the sump oil screen is only accessible by splitting the cases. But there is a slim chance it could be accessible under the stator cover. Anybody know for sure?
'Any chance you could gently backflow that with oil, diesel, air or the like? Insert a thin vacuum tube and vacuum the screen?
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:14 PM   #76253
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Thanks LIL Steve is this common fault then i was thinking must be blocked breather would they ship to uk

I wouldnt call it common but it's not unheard of, I have seen it personally though.

I believe Procycle ships worldwide. I'm sure he'll chime in otherwise.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:18 PM   #76254
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'Any chance you could gently backflow that with oil, diesel, air or the like? Insert a thin vacuum tube and vacuum the screen?
Yeah, that's my fallback plan is something like that. Squirt some kerosene down the passage that goes to the screen in the sump. Not possible to get underneath it to vacuum it though.
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:27 PM   #76255
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Thanks LIL Steve is this common fault then i was thinking must be blocked breather would they ship to uk
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I wouldnt call it common but it's not unheard of, I have seen it personally though.

I believe Procycle ships worldwide. I'm sure he'll chime in otherwise.
Interestingly, since I ceased manufacture, is seems that Suzuki are now making them too, so you may be able to source one via them in the UK. VSM are selling them here in Oz and also ship overseas I believe.

Just posted on the Oz thread, one recently fitted:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...ostcount=13131

http://www.vincestrangmotorcycles.com.au/cont.html
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:36 PM   #76256
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Thanks guys so whats reason for it coming out i was thinking to much crankcase pressure blocked breather etc
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Old 04-29-2013, 03:41 PM   #76257
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Thanks guys so whats reason for it coming out i was thinking to much crankcase pressure blocked breather etc
Some just do.

There is a pressurised oil feed right behind the seal. Oil comes from the pump to the space behind the seal, contained by the inner seal on the countershaft bearing, then into a hole in the countershaft for distribution to the gears.

Max oil pressure is when the oil is cold at startup. There is minimal crank pressure then, and even so, its shielded from crank pressure by the seal on the css bearing.

The seal is only retained by friction, so needs to be assembled dry. There is also a suggestion that some cases were machined a bit oversize and Suzuki have released an oversized seal, but dunno about that.
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Old 04-30-2013, 04:13 AM   #76258
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Hello,

I have a plan to install kick start mechanism to my 93`dr650SE. Originally it has only electric start. Has anybody tried to do it? Tips, advices?

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Old 04-30-2013, 04:18 AM   #76259
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Some just do.

There is a pressurised oil feed right behind the seal. Oil comes from the pump to the space behind the seal, contained by the inner seal on the countershaft bearing, then into a hole in the countershaft for distribution to the gears.

Max oil pressure is when the oil is cold at startup. There is minimal crank pressure then, and even so, its shielded from crank pressure by the seal on the css bearing.

The seal is only retained by friction, so needs to be assembled dry. There is also a suggestion that some cases were machined a bit oversize and Suzuki have released an oversized seal, but dunno about that.
Thanks only thing that worries me is will just push a different seal out if i fit plate one thing i am wondering is did i push seal in to far ????????
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Old 04-30-2013, 05:38 AM   #76260
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I got a couple questions the other day that I can't answer so I figured I would ask here:

A couple of the bearings inside the cases have dust seals on them. Why are they retained inside the motor and what will happen if they are removed?

The only thing I could think of is related to circuit pressure? Couldn't think of any real downside other than maybe reduced pressure but I would assume the bearings would get enough oil on them through spray...

Should I tell the guy to take his motor back out and apart or will he be ok?

Thanks.
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