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Old 05-02-2013, 06:17 AM   #76306
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What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.



Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?

I did both, Vince Strang has a peg lowering kit for $44, and I got the seat Concepts tall seat .....works great for me.
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Old 05-02-2013, 06:43 AM   #76307
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luckychucky, yours (2004).......




mine (2008).........


Looks the same to me. I think Mongle is right on it, those marks are from cracks in the mold, not cracks in the engine casting.

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mine 1996. no cracks at all! pretty much proves that the mold ages and gets tiny cracks over time. sorry it's a bit blurry, but I took a bunch of pics and this is the best one. (darn autofocus)

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Old 05-02-2013, 08:14 AM   #76308
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?
The stock seat is worthless,regardless of heidth. I used some 25.00 footpeg lowering plates made out of thick steel so as not to bend. Im sure SW's lowering kit is nice but not 167.00 nice. The peg lowering plate moves the pegs back as well as down,much better when standing on the bike and more legroom then my 1200 Triumph has.

Ive also put SC's tall seat on the bike,it seems like more then an inch taller,very thick and plush especially compared to the board like Corbin that was on there.

DR is very comfy and fits long legs easily set up thusly.
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Old 05-02-2013, 08:32 AM   #76309
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:12 AM   #76310
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Old 05-02-2013, 10:24 AM   #76311
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?
Get the SC seat kit. Cut an inch out of the peg brackets and weld them back together a bit further back, or have an experienced TIG user do it. Mind the rubber mounts. They'll melt if they aren't removed.

You can even use lowering brackets later, if you want even more room.

I also made brackets to lower my passenger pegs 2" or 4", and I can use them when I don't have a passenger. I also use Happy Trails touring pegs on my skid. I can move my feet between 3 different positions on long trips.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:25 AM   #76312
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Yes, that's me. Missed the cattle but, broke the ankle, and the side stand switch, had to walk 17 miles out on the ankle. It was my one gallon water tank that got the ankle. I will still use it, but, try to get the leg out faster.

Yes, I have spent time in Montana and Idaho, both great places. I would love to do Baja, but, as I have gotten older, I hate sand more and more. But, then I read all about how everything is getting paved, so maybe?

I do enjoy riding alone, there are some down sides to it. I would tell anyone not to do it, but who listens to their own advise? I have always met more people and had more fun, riding alone than with others.

I did Death Valley in a Jeep once, and have always wanted to do it on a bike, that that is in the plan.

Thanks for the well wishes, and come September there will be a DR 650 for the next guy to enjoy.

And, yes, I'm a hasher, even wear a red dress once in awhile.
Wow! That was quite an ordeal. Glad to see it hasn't dampened your spirit!
I'm a "Lone Rider" too, but always risks involved. (SPOT?)
Baja
You can do ALL of Baja and never ride sand. Paved roads go to all the little towns. Really easy riding and enough traffic so it's unlikely you would ever be stranded long. Lots of Llanterro shops if you get a flat along the way and gas everywhere. You can camp or Motel it. Pacific coast is cooler.

If you take some of the easy dirt roads in Baja, well, they are more remote but most are easy riding on the DR650. You may run into other riders there, like in Bahia de Los Angeles, Mulege' or Loreto. So much to see! Get a good guide book or read some of the Baja stories here on ADV.

Death Valley
I would not go OFF ROAD in Death Valley alone in Summer. If you can pick up a buddy or two, then OK ... but it's pretty rough in places and will be over 110F.

But you can see ALL of the best sights on paved roads ... if too hot you can bail out to the West and be in the Southern Sierra in a couple hours or less ... temps in the 70's/80's and rivers everywhere.

If you get a chance check out the Black Rock Desert in Nevada. Not too hot in the high desert. Windy and cooler up over 4000 ft. Spectacular country, but very remote.

Sounds like you've explored many of the best riding areas. California coast may be foggy in Summer ... but may be better if we're in heat wave. Central Valley can be well over 100F. Coast temps in the 60's.
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Old 05-02-2013, 11:33 AM   #76313
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?
How tall are you?
I would do the SEAT first as the stock seat is a torture rack ... so needs replacement anyway. There are OTHER seat specialists around, probably even some good guys in Oz. Shop Round. Raise it up 2 inches over stock if possible.

Then, if still uncomfortable, save up for lower pegs and do that when you can manage it. You will probably want to add bar risers if you raise seat height. Better for taller riders. More $$$$ of course.

The DR is really more suited for shorter riders. Not the best big man's bike, but if you do all the mods, is not bad. Still, bikes like KTM's, some Honda's, are all taller. Cheers!
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Old 05-02-2013, 01:26 PM   #76314
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?
I went for both and the seat was more important to me.
I got my Seat Concept DR seat before they offered the "Tall" version.
With my suspension the seat is already up high and I'm not sure I would find the extra inch worth buying a new one. (I am 6-4")

I bought the ProCycle lowered pegs next and was amazed at how much more comfortable my legs (knees) are. So I recommend that too.

However, my knees could put up with riding on stock pegs far longer time wise than my butt could take on the stock seat. Eeeeeooooowwwww!

ProCycle sells both Seat Concept and lowered pegs so getting them shipped to you in Australia might be a better price than you can do locally.
And if you can swing doing both at the same time you will be happier.

You didn't ask, but I also have 2" bar risers and the "High" ATV bars.
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Old 05-02-2013, 04:52 PM   #76315
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One of mine kept easing out and turns out it was bent inside and could not be adjusted. When I used hand impact with vise holding square part the screw snapped.
I need bar ends for my stock bars. Anyone got a pair they are willing to sell?
Thank
I'm at 6' and the Seat Concepts HIGH was not enough of a difference for me, height-wise. I did 400 mi / 2x 6 hour riding days last weekend and ordered the PC lower pegs on Monday. I don't think I shuffled my cheeks once on that ride; the SC seat was great, ass-comfort-wise.

I have a sensitive knee, so need the "old man set-up" - lots of offroad riding seated-to-standing transitions will exacerbate my knee.

I have longer than stock suspension, so peg scraping is less of a concern. Plus the PC lowering kit doesn't put any hardware below the frame rails/ skidplate.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:23 PM   #76316
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Experienced people,

What would be better? Lowering the pegs, or buying a taller seat?

My 2 cents worth is: lowering the pegs, with a product like that offered by SW-Mootech which does not lower the bottom-clearance, would be better on a DR650 because it would not increase the riding height, therefore maintaining more control over the bike when riding anywhere. These pegs are about $167 which is about the same price as a High Seat Concepts seat. The SC seat raises the bike 1 inch. The lowered pegs 1.75 inches. The LP are the clear winner in terms of more leg room.

The difficult part is this: Buying the lowered pegs ought to do the job. But if I desire to buy a new seat, due to the 'hardness' of the 650's stock seat, I'll be forking out more money. $167 for the lowered pegs + between $150 - $300 for a new seat.

Ergonomically the lower pegs are best. Financially the higher seat is best. If money weren't a problem, I'd just get both!

What do you reckon?

Ass pain trumps knee pain every time . Do the seat first. Like someone else said, do the pegs later, if needed.
Since you're on a budget, I'd remind you not to overlook used parts. I bought my Corbin used for $200, and it was hardly broken in. My BBQ tail rack, IMS tank, and Parabellum screen- all preowned. My Works Performance shock was factory reconditioned. My Five Stars centerstand was a close out from Twisted Throttle. My fork springs are swapped from a DL650 that I scored for $5 (I'm a portly gentleman .)
Keep your eyes open. There are bargains out there.
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Old 05-02-2013, 07:51 PM   #76317
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Wowzers Krusty ... you win the sharp bargain hunters award for sure!
Very impressive. I never seem to find the great deals ... although my bike was a good deal when I bought it ... and I did get an Ohlins shock ... free!
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Old 05-02-2013, 09:01 PM   #76318
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Like others have said, the seat will most likely be the biggest improvement you can make. I did the seat first and also the lower pegs from procycle later. Nothing is below what the stock pegs were, just more leg room. Plus the area of the peg is larger so standing is nicer.

Yes, Ken, I will contact you when I get to San Diego. My son is going to a wedding in Hawaii in early June and I will be dog sitting in Seattle and have not set any dates as of yet for going south.
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:55 AM   #76319
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Thank you Sir!

Unfortunately, I will be storing this info myself as I tried to share it with my neighbor only to be informed that he has the motor in the bike and he doesn't care to take it out. I wished him luck... I hope the trans can get enough oil otherwise.
And some folks here previously questioned why I preferred to purchase a new DR! One of the best things about the DR, and the same reason I prefer a new with the additional cost, is that they are so easy to work on, folks who shouldn't be working on them will do just that.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:59 AM   #76320
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How tall are you?
Hey, I'm 6 foot 4 tall ~ Cheers ~
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