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Old 05-03-2013, 09:03 AM   #76306
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Long distance riders,
Safari 30L tank $589
"Acerbis 20L $270 + postage
Fuel bottles <$30 + a ride to the shops.
Safari: does it interfere with the controls and GPS units on the DR650?
What are your thoughts on tanks versus bottles? Say I'm going to go 600km+ (so I'll need >10 more litres).
Safari tanks get a fair bit of criticism ... ask around on your local Oz DR650 forums. IMO, over priced and 8 gallons (30 liters) not required for most riders.

Fuel bottles, IMO, are a pain. I've carried fuel for short stretches but never permanently mounted to the bike. A bigger tank is a FAR better solution.
If you must go this route, check our "Rotopax" aux tanks.

Maybe look around for a used IMS fuel tank? I've seen them here on ADV Rider Flea Market for around $150 USD. Shipping from USA to Oz would be high, but maybe you can find a used IMS locally?

Unless you're doing lots of serious Out Back touring, the 5 US gallon (19.5 liter) IMS fuel tank should be OK. I can go 230 miles (370 kms) on mine. The new Acerbis tank is very nice but not many used ones around.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:06 AM   #76307
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Cheers for ya'llz advice regarding the pegs versus seat height.
As I'm 6 foot 4 and have an upper body like a orangatang I'm leaning towards getting the lowering pegs per SW-Motortech's (these don't lower the clearance height). I'll prob. see how that goes...then I will order a Seat Concepts seat. Yes, I'll be ordering a seat regardless but if I don't need the SC TALL seat then I'll get the SC STANDARD set because this'll save me having to buy bar-forward-risers and can keep my position on Atlas lower & my leg wrap around the bike more (= more control, at least in theory). Open to further ideas, though, and'll be placing my order prob. in the next 48 hours. Will post pics in about 4 weeks of this specific most expensive option job for yallz future ref.
I expect you'll also need a handlebar with a taller bend and/or bar risers. Especially if you like to stand on the pegs.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:17 AM   #76308
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Maybe look around for a used IMS fuel tank? I've seen them here on ADV Rider Flea Market for around $150 USD. Shipping from USA to Oz would be high, but maybe you can find a used IMS locally?
I only paid $100 for mine

BUT... one caveat regarding older IMS tanks: The older cap gaskets are fine with 5% ethanol in the gasoline, but will disintegrate with the 10% ethanol blend that's typically found at gas stations in the US. Not sure what the fuel is like in Oz. The fix is cheap enough- but a new IMS cap, or upgrade to a locking cap.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:25 AM   #76309
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Cheers for ya'llz advice regarding the pegs versus seat height.
As I'm 6 foot 4 and have an upper body like a orangatang I'm leaning towards getting the lowering pegs per SW-Motortech's (these don't lower the clearance height). I'll prob. see how that goes...then I will order a Seat Concepts seat. Yes, I'll be ordering a seat regardless but if I don't need the SC TALL seat then I'll get the SC STANDARD set because this'll save me having to buy bar-forward-risers and can keep my position on Atlas lower & my leg wrap around the bike more (= more control, at least in theory). Open to further ideas, though, and'll be placing my order prob. in the next 48 hours. Will post pics in about 4 weeks of this specific most expensive option job for yallz future ref.
I'm 6'4" and the DR650 definitely has a cramped cockpit for tall riders. I don't know why you wouldn't order the TALL SC seat regardless? Your explanation doesn't really make sense to me. The Tall SC seat gets you more leg room and your legs will fit more comfortably on the bike. My WR250R fits me way better as a taller rider, but I'm trying to get the DR there too.

Between the lower pegs and the Tall seat, that also makes standing up easier as your legs aren't as bent and the position you need to go from sitting to standing is up higher which also helps. You'll definitely need risers + tall bars. Look into the Rox Risers that allow you to get the bars way forward and away from you giving your more room for your arms. I definitely say get the tall SC seat. Everything helps when you are 6'4".
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:12 AM   #76310
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I have a Corbin seat that has been modified to add a gel pad. I find the foam on the Corbin (even with the gel pad) to be as hard as a rock.

How does the Corbin compare with the Sargent seat in terms of comfort and foam hardness?

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Old 05-03-2013, 10:16 AM   #76311
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Long distance riders,
Safari 30L tank $589 + postage "oh man, that's just plain old mean!" )
Acerbis 20L $270 + postage
Fuel bottles <$30 + a ride to the shops.
Safari: does it interfere with the controls and GPS units on the DR650?
What are your thoughts on tanks versus bottles? Say I'm going to go 600km+ (so I'll need >10 more litres).
I'd go Safari tank. When you don't want the extra weight, just don't fill it all the way. If you don't need an auxiliary tank or bottle, it's one less thing to strap on and/or lose.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:21 PM   #76312
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I have a Corbin seat that has been modified to add a gel pad. I find the foam on the Corbin (even with the gel pad) to be as hard as a rock.

How does the Corbin compare with the Sargent seat in terms of comfort and foam hardness?

When I first got my Corbin I felt how hard it was and thought "this thing isn't going to be any better". But, even being "firm" I couldn't believe the difference from the stock one.

I just bought a Vulcan Nomad that had a Corbin on it also, it feels like a rock but I just did 900 miles in two days on it and was again surprised at the comfort.
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Old 05-03-2013, 12:31 PM   #76313
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I have a Corbin seat that has been modified to add a gel pad. I find the foam on the Corbin (even with the gel pad) to be as hard as a rock.
How does the Corbin compare with the Sargent seat in terms of comfort and foam hardness?
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When I first got my Corbin I felt how hard it was and thought "this thing isn't going to be any better". But, even being "firm" I couldn't believe the difference from the stock one.

I just bought a Vulcan Nomad that had a Corbin on it also, it feels like a rock but I just did 900 miles in two days on it and was again surprised at the comfort.
Mongle's got it right. The Corbin is very firm but it just flat WORKS. I'm guessing that inserting a GEL pad will RUIN the seat's function ... and burn your butt once it sits in the Sun too long (serious)

Sargent seats have a good rep too, many happy DR riders here. I'm happy with my Corbin and can string 400 mile days, back to back. Nice.
Corbin's designs come from Mexican Horse saddle makers ... not much padding on a horse saddle. (100% Mexican workers make Corbin seats)
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:44 PM   #76314
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Speaking of which - just how bad an idea would it be to have Corbin cover a DR650 saddle with real leather instead of vynil?
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Old 05-03-2013, 01:49 PM   #76315
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Speaking of which - just how bad an idea would it be to have Corbin cover a DR650 saddle with real leather instead of vynil?
Yeah. I had one of those on my ST1100. Just one word, RAIN! It took about a week for that sucker to dry out and when I sold the bike the leather was hard as a table top. Not a good idea IMO.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:36 PM   #76316
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Corbin seats are firm, but break in with use. Get the "dual sport" size sheepskin buttpad from Alaska Leather. Ten hour rides are no problem for me with that combination.
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Old 05-03-2013, 02:42 PM   #76317
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Corbin seats are firm, but break in with use. Get the "dual sport" size sheepskin buttpad from Alaska Leather. Ten hour rides are no problem for me with that combination.
i find Corbin seats have too much material on the knee area when you stand.
it pushes out our knees funny.
i have a sargent (fits all tank too) and it's much better or a seat concepts would be another great choice.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:40 PM   #76318
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i find Corbin seats have too much material on the knee area when you stand.
it pushes out our knees funny.
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Old 05-03-2013, 03:57 PM   #76319
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i find Corbin seats have too much material on the knee area when you stand.
it pushes out our knees funny.
i have a sargent (fits all tank too) and it's much better or a seat concepts would be another great choice.
I agree. The Corbin seat is too bulky at the front, forcing you to stand kind of bow legged when you ride standing up.
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Old 05-03-2013, 04:24 PM   #76320
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Seat concepts all the way nothing else will do.

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I agree. The Corbin seat is too bulky at the front, forcing you to stand kind of bow legged when you ride standing up.
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