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Old 05-03-2013, 04:57 PM   #76336
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i find Corbin seats have too much material on the knee area when you stand.
it pushes out our knees funny.
i have a sargent (fits all tank too) and it's much better or a seat concepts would be another great choice.
I agree. The Corbin seat is too bulky at the front, forcing you to stand kind of bow legged when you ride standing up.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:24 PM   #76337
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Seat concepts all the way nothing else will do.

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I agree. The Corbin seat is too bulky at the front, forcing you to stand kind of bow legged when you ride standing up.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:38 PM   #76338
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clutch dragging

Guys,

I recently replaced the clutch pack (drive and driven discs + springs) as part of my '98 DR650 rebuild. The old discs were pretty worn out, and I used the EBC "Dirt racer" set that comes with stiffer springs.

Now I have the issue that the clutch is dragging, but ONLY when the engine is very hot (say after half hour of driving through crawling traffic, or slow trail riding). I adjusted the lever free-play to the point there is almost no cable slack, still the issue persists. The oil I used is Motul 5100 15W50 (semi-synthetic) and it only has 300kms.
If the engine doesn't heat badly (traffic/road conditions allow maintaining a constant, reasonable speed) I have absolutely no issues with clutch dragging.

Can this be related, in any way, to the stiffer clutch springs? Should I re-install the original springs? Any other ideas are welcome.
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Old 05-03-2013, 05:48 PM   #76339
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Seat concepts all the way nothing else will do.
My wife has the Seat Concepts and likes it, but I prefer my ProCycle/Saddlemen.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:17 PM   #76340
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I agree. The Corbin seat is too bulky at the front, forcing you to stand kind of bow legged when you ride standing up.
It's true ... the Corbin does splay ones legs a bit when standing. Standing for HOURS in Baja, my solution was to move my feet outward on the pegs just a bit, and move further forward. Still not ideal. Funny thing is, I sort of get used to it after a day or two of riding off road all day.
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Seat concepts all the way nothing else will do.
How many other seats have you tried besides stock? The two Seat Concepts I tried were not good, IMO. One on a Husky 630, the other on a Yamaha 1200 Tenere'. The Tenere' owner ditched the Seat Concept seat after one ride. Called it a "half measure". I have to agree. It's a frickin cheap kit ... assembled by an amateur. (the owner!)
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:27 PM   #76341
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Guys,

I recently replaced the clutch pack (drive and driven discs + springs) as part of my '98 DR650 rebuild. The old discs were pretty worn out, and I used the EBC "Dirt racer" set that comes with stiffer springs.

Now I have the issue that the clutch is dragging, but ONLY when the engine is very hot (say after half hour of driving through crawling traffic, or slow trail riding). I adjusted the lever free-play to the point there is almost no cable slack, still the issue persists. The oil I used is Motul 5100 15W50 (semi-synthetic) and it only has 300kms.
If the engine doesn't heat badly (traffic/road conditions allow maintaining a constant, reasonable speed) I have absolutely no issues with clutch dragging.

Can this be related, in any way, to the stiffer clutch springs? Should I re-install the original springs? Any other ideas are welcome.
It's mostly related to the EBC kit being "One Size Fits All" after market junk.

Go back to stock Suzuki plates and springs. All will be OK.

You are not the first to experience this sort of issue with EBC kits. These issues have come up with both EBC and Barnett clutch kits, documented here somewhere.

I rode a DR650 with a Barnett and could not believe the effort it took just to pull in the clutch.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:32 PM   #76342
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I agree, it has held up really well on the bike. I think its easier to put on over my riding gear.

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Old 05-03-2013, 06:39 PM   #76343
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... Can this be related, in any way, to the stiffer clutch springs? Should I re-install the original springs? Any other ideas are welcome.
I put one of those EBC Dirt Racer clutches in my DR350. I was expecting more clutch pull effort but dayum, that thing was like one of those spring thing grip exercisers. I might have eventually gotten used to it but I didn't want to. I left the EBC plates in and reinstalled the OE springs with shims. Seems to be fine now.
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Old 05-03-2013, 06:51 PM   #76344
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I love my Safari tank. Have only great things to say about it. Worth every Dollar.

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Long distance riders,
Safari 30L tank $589 + postage "oh man, that's just plain old mean!" )
Acerbis 20L $270 + postage
Fuel bottles <$30 + a ride to the shops.
Safari: does it interfere with the controls and GPS units on the DR650?
What are your thoughts on tanks versus bottles? Say I'm going to go 600km+ (so I'll need >10 more litres).
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:22 PM   #76345
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Sargent and Seat Concepts

I have had a Sargent seat on my DR and a Seat Concepts also.

The Seat Concepts is as good or better than the Sargent for 1/2 the cost.

No contest IMO.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:43 PM   #76346
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Bluhduh Help, my puter has an STD

My puter is going boobies up. It started out the same on the few sites I frequent, lotsa popups showing up anytime I run the cursor over an underlined word. But tonight I'm getting full page popups on ADVrider any time I try to navigate; like refreshing my subscribed page. Other sites are still doing the underline popups but at least I can navigate. Any ideas?

Crap, I can't even preview my own post.

Sorry about the hijack. And now back to your regular programing.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:15 PM   #76347
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Hi Guys

When removing the clutch cover to get to the NSU screws do you need to remove the oil filter cover and oil filter?

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Old 05-03-2013, 10:04 PM   #76348
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...I have the issue that the clutch is dragging, but ONLY when the engine is very hot (say after half hour of driving through crawling traffic, or slow trail riding). I adjusted the lever free-play to the point there is almost no cable slack, still the issue persists. ...
I suspect a worn thrust washer under the clutch hub. Check out this thread over at DRRiders.com
--> Dragging clutch? Check this out.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:36 PM   #76349
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It's mostly related to the EBC kit being "One Size Fits All" after market junk.

Go back to stock Suzuki plates and springs. All will be OK.

You are not the first to experience this sort of issue with EBC kits. These issues have come up with both EBC and Barnett clutch kits, documented here somewhere.

I rode a DR650 with a Barnett and could not believe the effort it took just to pull in the clutch.
are you talking about the same slipping/dragging issues with the Barnett as with the EBC? ive had two EBC clutches and finally worked out that it wanst me working them too hard, they are just useless. ive just installed a barnett and the clutch is heavy and takes a little getting used to but im not going to be happy if it starts slipping the same as the EBC does.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:00 AM   #76350
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Thanks Pro-cycle for all the good dragging clutch info and documentation

I believe you could also have a dragging clutch from warped steel drive plates.

A clutch habit that I have got into is to have the bike in neutral when stopped at lights for extended periods.
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