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Old 05-04-2013, 09:26 AM   #76336
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...ive just installed a barnett and the clutch is heavy and takes a little getting used to...
A good compromise is to use a combination of 2 Barnett springs and 2 stock springs.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:03 AM   #76337
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I installed the Wolfman rack and Expedition bags and couldn't be more happy with them. Packed up full and I can't really feel them back there even when going over bumps.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:03 AM   #76338
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are you talking about the same slipping/dragging issues with the Barnett as with the EBC? ive had two EBC clutches and finally worked out that it wanst me working them too hard, they are just useless. ive just installed a barnett and the clutch is heavy and takes a little getting used to but im not going to be happy if it starts slipping the same as the EBC does.
Sorry, can't quote specific posts siting specific problems, just have a memory of various posts about Barnett and EBC clutch kit issues. Not even sure what the problems were beyond a lever pull that wears you out.

Other long time readers here may recall reports of EBC/Barnett issues?

IIRC, most of the "problems" were solved by simply going back to all stock Suzuki clutch parts. Imagine that! I'm sure there are a few tricks if you use your clutch very hard ... like shimming springs and replacing the Thrust washer. Makes perfect sense.

I don't ride my DR like a 125cc Moto Cross bike ... so no clutch slipping here. My clutch is still solid at 50,000 miles. YMMV, IMHO.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:18 AM   #76339
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TypeSH - agreed. Solid and easy on/off or access on the trail. I combined them with a Giant Loop Coyote for this camping trip.


And with the Ogio tailbag (which is overloaded with tools & supplies) for a trip with a hotel at the destination.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:10 PM   #76340
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I installed the Wolfman rack and Expedition bags and couldn't be more happy with them. Packed up full and I can't really feel them back there even when going over bumps.
Looks great! I was thinking about going with these bags, too. I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite tank bag and have been very happy with it.

A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:30 PM   #76341
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clutch dragging

Thanks for your suggestions guys, I will definitely re-check everything. I don't recall seeing any obvious wear marks on the thrust washer but I'll recheck it anyway.

I doubt that it was the OEM clutch that was previously installed in this motor, but maybe someone can help me with identification:
- there were 4 drive plates marked 492-A5 and 3 plates marked 492-A6:


- there was one drive plate that didn't have any marks at all on the tabs, but was marked with the letters F and S between the cork pads:


- this particular drive plate that was marked with F and S was worn completely on the opposite side:


Given this amount of wear, I really wonder how the clutch was not slipping yet.
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:41 PM   #76342
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #76343
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My DR is now PERFECT!

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Old 05-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #76344
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A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
Have you changed the oil yet? Is the clutch cable adjusted properly? Is the shifter lever contacting anything when you shift?
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:30 PM   #76345
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My DR is now PERFECT!

Can't arguenwith that
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:00 PM   #76346
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Looks great! I was thinking about going with these bags, too. I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite tank bag and have been very happy with it.

A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
I would install a magnetic drain plug, you may find it picks up something. Just a guess, but might not be nothing at all.
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Old 05-04-2013, 07:26 PM   #76347
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...last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt...
I know it's new but has it been dropped on the left side?
A left side tip over can jam the shift mechanism and bend a shift fork.
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:34 PM   #76348
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Looks great! I was thinking about going with these bags, too. I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite tank bag and have been very happy with it.

A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
could be a bent shift fork. does it ever pop out of gear under load?
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Old 05-04-2013, 09:52 PM   #76349
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probably just preaching to the converted, but just in case you needed convincing....

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Old 05-05-2013, 07:30 AM   #76350
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probably just preaching to the converted, but just in case you needed convincing....

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