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Old 05-03-2013, 08:22 PM   #76336
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Sargent and Seat Concepts

I have had a Sargent seat on my DR and a Seat Concepts also.

The Seat Concepts is as good or better than the Sargent for 1/2 the cost.

No contest IMO.
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Old 05-03-2013, 08:43 PM   #76337
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Bluhduh Help, my puter has an STD

My puter is going boobies up. It started out the same on the few sites I frequent, lotsa popups showing up anytime I run the cursor over an underlined word. But tonight I'm getting full page popups on ADVrider any time I try to navigate; like refreshing my subscribed page. Other sites are still doing the underline popups but at least I can navigate. Any ideas?

Crap, I can't even preview my own post.

Sorry about the hijack. And now back to your regular programing.
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Old 05-03-2013, 09:15 PM   #76338
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When removing the clutch cover to get to the NSU screws do you need to remove the oil filter cover and oil filter?

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Old 05-03-2013, 10:04 PM   #76339
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...I have the issue that the clutch is dragging, but ONLY when the engine is very hot (say after half hour of driving through crawling traffic, or slow trail riding). I adjusted the lever free-play to the point there is almost no cable slack, still the issue persists. ...
I suspect a worn thrust washer under the clutch hub. Check out this thread over at DRRiders.com
--> Dragging clutch? Check this out.
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Old 05-03-2013, 10:36 PM   #76340
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It's mostly related to the EBC kit being "One Size Fits All" after market junk.

Go back to stock Suzuki plates and springs. All will be OK.

You are not the first to experience this sort of issue with EBC kits. These issues have come up with both EBC and Barnett clutch kits, documented here somewhere.

I rode a DR650 with a Barnett and could not believe the effort it took just to pull in the clutch.
are you talking about the same slipping/dragging issues with the Barnett as with the EBC? ive had two EBC clutches and finally worked out that it wanst me working them too hard, they are just useless. ive just installed a barnett and the clutch is heavy and takes a little getting used to but im not going to be happy if it starts slipping the same as the EBC does.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:00 AM   #76341
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Thanks Pro-cycle for all the good dragging clutch info and documentation

I believe you could also have a dragging clutch from warped steel drive plates.

A clutch habit that I have got into is to have the bike in neutral when stopped at lights for extended periods.
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Old 05-04-2013, 06:21 AM   #76342
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I love my Safari tank. Have only great things to say about it. Worth every Dollar.

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Yep, I'm with you. Doing the Canning Stock Route later this year and if I could get a 50L tank I would. Even with my tank blown out to 35L I will still have to find room for another 15-20L of fuel. I trail ride my DR with the Safari Tank. And depending on how far we intend to ride dictates if I put in 10, 15 or 20L. No real difference between a Safari tank with 15L and a Acerbis with 15L, however a full Acerbis at 20L and a full Safari at 30-35L represents a long long walk for the Acerbis guy when it runs dry!!!

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Old 05-04-2013, 09:26 AM   #76343
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...ive just installed a barnett and the clutch is heavy and takes a little getting used to...
A good compromise is to use a combination of 2 Barnett springs and 2 stock springs.
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Old 05-04-2013, 10:03 AM   #76344
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I installed the Wolfman rack and Expedition bags and couldn't be more happy with them. Packed up full and I can't really feel them back there even when going over bumps.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:03 AM   #76345
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are you talking about the same slipping/dragging issues with the Barnett as with the EBC? ive had two EBC clutches and finally worked out that it wanst me working them too hard, they are just useless. ive just installed a barnett and the clutch is heavy and takes a little getting used to but im not going to be happy if it starts slipping the same as the EBC does.
Sorry, can't quote specific posts siting specific problems, just have a memory of various posts about Barnett and EBC clutch kit issues. Not even sure what the problems were beyond a lever pull that wears you out.

Other long time readers here may recall reports of EBC/Barnett issues?

IIRC, most of the "problems" were solved by simply going back to all stock Suzuki clutch parts. Imagine that! I'm sure there are a few tricks if you use your clutch very hard ... like shimming springs and replacing the Thrust washer. Makes perfect sense.

I don't ride my DR like a 125cc Moto Cross bike ... so no clutch slipping here. My clutch is still solid at 50,000 miles. YMMV, IMHO.
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Old 05-04-2013, 11:18 AM   #76346
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TypeSH - agreed. Solid and easy on/off or access on the trail. I combined them with a Giant Loop Coyote for this camping trip.


And with the Ogio tailbag (which is overloaded with tools & supplies) for a trip with a hotel at the destination.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:10 PM   #76347
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I installed the Wolfman rack and Expedition bags and couldn't be more happy with them. Packed up full and I can't really feel them back there even when going over bumps.
Looks great! I was thinking about going with these bags, too. I have the Wolfman Explorer Lite tank bag and have been very happy with it.

A question for you guys. I'm just hitting ~850 miles on my bike and I noticed the last couple of days I've been missing 3rd gear a lot. At first I thought it was due to my error but, today I paid close attention to the upshift from 2nd to 3rd and it won't engage on the first attempt. The second attempt will engage but not the first. It will downshift fine, just won't shift from 2nd to 3rd on the first try. Any thoughts on troubleshooting this? I am scheduled to have the bike serviced soon and was going to mention it to the service tech but figured I'd ask you guys, too.
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Old 05-04-2013, 12:30 PM   #76348
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clutch dragging

Thanks for your suggestions guys, I will definitely re-check everything. I don't recall seeing any obvious wear marks on the thrust washer but I'll recheck it anyway.

I doubt that it was the OEM clutch that was previously installed in this motor, but maybe someone can help me with identification:
- there were 4 drive plates marked 492-A5 and 3 plates marked 492-A6:


- there was one drive plate that didn't have any marks at all on the tabs, but was marked with the letters F and S between the cork pads:


- this particular drive plate that was marked with F and S was worn completely on the opposite side:


Given this amount of wear, I really wonder how the clutch was not slipping yet.
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Old 05-04-2013, 04:41 PM   #76349
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Old 05-04-2013, 05:16 PM   #76350
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My DR is now PERFECT!

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