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Old 05-05-2013, 11:01 AM   #76381
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Expedition riders,

Any preferences between Giant Loop versus Wolfman versus Hard-Case-Options ?
I require them to be 100% waterproof. I require them to store food, camping stuff and a laptop computer. Enough 'stuff' to survive camping out for, say, 7 days.
In theory, I see an advantage in 3 separate compartments because one might be able to distribute the load more evenly, especially with a top case which can carry the hard stuff, and the side panniers can carry the more soft, lighter stuff.
The Giant Loop has the advantage of being one unit, hugs the bike, but I'm concerned that if I buy a Giant Loop distributing the load might 'get to me'. Am I wrong in thinking that one big bag could present more problems than cures?
This is how it's done:
(photos borrowed from Colebatch's RR, see link below)


Check out Colebatch's ride report here:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=834987

If your covering long distance over rough terrain ... Colebatch's system works pretty well for most bikes. He's riding an X Challenge and his buddies on KTM 690's. The DR is a better cargo carrier than BOTH of those bikes.

I prefer panniers, low hung and forward. Top bag of some kind.
7 days is a shake down ride. A real "expedition" may go a bit longer.

I've tried hard cases on my DR:

Baja around 2007. Too much weight at round 45 kgs. messes up handling off road.

Went back to soft panniers and top bag. Much preferred

25 kgs.
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Old 05-05-2013, 11:37 AM   #76382
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Those Twaron/Kevlar A-Spec Magadan saddlebags that Colebatch uses are sweet. They're also a bit expensive, and they seem like you'd want the sideracks to extend a bit lower than needed with some other bags...to keep them away from the wheel or swing-arm. They keep the weight far down on the bike though.

If you don't need that much space, the Wolfman Expedition saddlebags and racks keep everything tight to the bike. Look how the weight of the loaded bags is supported by the straps too, and not the fabric or stitching. Some people use stiffeners inside them for easy loading and to keep them from being floppy when not full. I'd use PacSafe mesh around soft luggage like this if security is a concern.

Internal drybags or stuffsacks in the saddlebags and topbag can also be handy. Some people even use drybags in the tankbag, tank panniers, etc.

I try for weight distribution when packing too. We ride 2up a lot, so we sometimes carry a lot more stuff than I would solo. I use a large front fenderpack (freakin' huge Moose dualsport on a brace), large tank panniers, medium tankbag, above-headlight rack, tooltube, soft panniers, Givi hard topcase, and pockets. I pack mostly just weather-proof soft items in pockets of mesh riding gear...rain liners, balaclavas, hydration bladders, etc. I try to pack heavy items on the bike low. The DR actually still rides pretty good. I don't currently use sideracks. I just use an extra aluminum shield, stood off over the muff, and the saddlebag on the left rests against my tooltube. My tailrack is the Suzuki accessories rack with a Givi plate on it.

If you use a SPOT, keep it on YOU. Putting it on the bike is almost useless in an emergency, IMO, if you and the bike get separated and can't be reunited.

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Old 05-05-2013, 01:13 PM   #76383
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Thanks for the laughs mate!
Well done video How about a comparison video shoot-out?
DR vs. KLR
DR vs. KTM
DR vs. BMW
Would be great fun to make, and to watch
we had a half hearted shot at a comparison vid here but you can't really have an FE570 and a gs800 in the line up. might have a crack at comparing the DR with the TE610 and 690r though, you do see guys trying to choose between these.
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Old 05-05-2013, 09:32 PM   #76384
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we had a half hearted shot at a comparison vid here but you can't really have an FE570 and a gs800 in the line up. might have a crack at comparing the DR with the TE610 and 690r though, you do see guys trying to choose between these.
Thanks, nicely done... but...
I was thinking in line with the humor of the "Awesome DR" video.
Things like the DR crossing a stream with ease but the KLR and other falling or getting stuck. the DR flying a jump and the KLR going half as far with a nose down landing. the DR plowing through mud while the other bike weave and tip over or bury the rear wheel. The DR mastering a hill climb that the other bikes won't attempt or fail to make.

Humor, not reality.
Top Gear antics, not MotorTrend boring.
Might be difficult to round up a few volunteers on the other bikes but if you tell them you are providing the beer and girls to serve it...
Tell them you are making a comedy, not a reality show.

How about having a DR rider easily pass the other bikes in gnarly terrain and the stop to wait for the others to catch up. The other bike riders remove their helmets and talk about how difficult, scary, and exhausting that section was... Then the DR rider removes HER (!!) helmet and says "Really? I thought that section was a breeze."

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Old 05-06-2013, 12:14 AM   #76385
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Sounds like most of our rides...
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Old 05-06-2013, 03:24 AM   #76386
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I am amazed you say that....really amazed. I found the quality great and no probs here.

4 of us over here bought the Seat Concepts seats and none of us have had a major complaint. We spent 2 weeks and 8000km on them. what we all agreed on though is that short term you think they might be uncomfortable, but spend the day in the saddle it does not get worse, it kinda gets better! I don't want to go softer thats for sure.

Quality seat for a great price.....and a little bit DIY if you like that.
I always get off the bike feeling fresh-ish and neadly always comment to myself how great the seat is...so maybe it depends on the bum (mines boney) and the bike. The DR650 one is a good compromise.
I bought it based on + reviews and - ones on the corbin/sargent....not to mention the price.

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How many other seats have you tried besides stock? The two Seat Concepts I tried were not good, IMO. One on a Husky 630, the other on a Yamaha 1200 Tenere'. The Tenere' owner ditched the Seat Concept seat after one ride. Called it a "half measure". I have to agree. It's a frickin cheap kit ... assembled by an amateur. (the owner!)
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Old 05-06-2013, 05:56 AM   #76387
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Seat concepts seat feels plush on my bum. I weigh about 190. Too bad I'm selling the DR soon... But that seat is great imo...
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:36 AM   #76388
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I am amazed you say that....really amazed. I found the quality great and no probs here.

4 of us over here bought the Seat Concepts seats and none of us have had a major complaint. We spent 2 weeks and 8000km on them. what we all agreed on though is that short term you think they might be uncomfortable, but spend the day in the saddle it does not get worse, it kinda gets better! I don't want to go softer thats for sure.

Quality seat for a great price.....and a little bit DIY if you like that.
I always get off the bike feeling fresh-ish and neadly always comment to myself how great the seat is...so maybe it depends on the bum (mines boney) and the bike. The DR650 one is a good compromise.
I bought it based on + reviews and - ones on the corbin/sargent....not to mention the price.
Good to hear of the good reports. Remember ... I've never ridden a DR650 with the Seat Concepts. A Husky 630 ... and only got a report from the Tenere' owner. He went with a Renazco.
The Husky guy re-did his Seat Concepts, got different foam and paid a pro to staple it up properly. (He had it on un even) I haven't ridden the Husky with the redone seat. It now looks good, seems a bit wider and firmer.
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Old 05-06-2013, 09:55 AM   #76389
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Here's the link to my ad in the flea market.
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Old 05-06-2013, 10:22 AM   #76390
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f38_1367634726

82,000 miles condensed into 10 minutes. Very nice. I feel like such a schlub when I see things like this. "I rode Arizona....or Utah..." Whoopee.

Guys on here like Shu, Grifter, Jay, Adam, JP, SprintST....others I've forgotten....hats off to ya.
Great stuff!

I do think he spent a little too much time in his helmet The things you will do to entertain yourself in the middle of nowhere!
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:02 PM   #76391
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Going to look at buying a '94 dr650. has some vibration from counterbalance that was "remedied" anything else to look for besides frame breaks, neutral lights, etc?

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Old 05-06-2013, 12:13 PM   #76392
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Going to look at buying a '94 dr650. has some vibration from counterbalance that was "remedied" anything else to look for besides frame breaks, neutral lights, etc?

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Wrong topic. Look for the Pre 96 topic for the best responses. 96 and up don't have a chain driven counterbalancer. That's one of the reasons it's better.
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Old 05-06-2013, 12:24 PM   #76393
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so the '94 doesnt have chain balancer or '96 and above do not?

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Old 05-06-2013, 12:27 PM   #76394
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Well it would help if i read your post correctly. if possible a link to oldy moldy dr650 thread would be appreciated.

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Old 05-06-2013, 12:38 PM   #76395
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so the '94 doesnt have chain balancer or '96 and above do not?

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96 and up have a counterbalancer but it's not chain driven like the older ones. And I'd find the right topic but it's difficult on a phone.
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