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Old 05-09-2013, 01:13 PM   #76456
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On another topic, I need urgent help with the following issue. During my latest 6-mile commute to work the bike was constantly dying during normal driving. It seems the bike cuts out the ignition when in gear, and the engine dies immediately. At this point it also won't crank unless it's in neutral. The problem was intermittent until I actually had to stop on the side of road, took the seat off and started checking the wires.
Apart from the sidestand safety switch, is there anything else that can cause this? I eventually managed to resume my commute and get to work after playing with the wires but I deffinitely need to recheck everything in the morning before heading back home (it's 11PM now). The sidestand safety switch was elliminated by one of the previous owners, now I have a little green connector with two wires soldered together. I need to know if there is anything else I need to re-check, any obvious sub-systems that can cause the described behavior.
Clutch safety switch. I would also check the wiring for the removed sidestand safety switch with a multi-meter. The solder may have cracked or something.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:06 PM   #76457
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Could some have found its way up to the plugs? I'd pull them and cleans them.
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Old 05-09-2013, 02:53 PM   #76458
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Oil that is, black gold, Texas tea...
I always thought ..... Texas "T" You coming to BBA next week?? on the DR?
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:38 PM   #76459
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I always thought ..... Texas "T" You coming to BBA next week?? on the DR?
Unable. I screwed up my back, for the first time ever, helping my son move. I have P.T. and a back cracker for a month. The good news is it doesn't hurt when I ride, sleep or...., only when I walk. Tipping over could leave me stranded for a while.
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Old 05-09-2013, 03:46 PM   #76460
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Stripped inspection screw

I was adjusting the valves today and when I put the plug back in the hole (the one where you check for the t-mark) and tightened it. I heard a snap, then the plug wouldn't tighten anymore - I just kept spinning as I was wrenching. I unscrewed it and now the threads are stripped on the inside of the hole. How do I fix it? I think I caused this back when I didn't have a torque-wrench. Should I drain the oil and pull the cover off to look for metal bits? Thanks
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:25 PM   #76461
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Stripped inspection screw

I was adjusting the valves today and when I put the plug back in the hole (the one where you check for the t-mark) and tightened it. I heard a snap, then the plug wouldn't tighten anymore - I just kept spinning as I was wrenching. I unscrewed it and now the threads are stripped on the inside of the hole. How do I fix it? I think I caused this back when I didn't have a torque-wrench. Should I drain the oil and pull the cover off to look for metal bits? Thanks
That's what I would do. I'm sure you can fashion an alternative plug but to do so requires the cover to be up on the workbench to avoid crankcase contamination.
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Old 05-09-2013, 04:30 PM   #76462
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That's what I would do. I'm sure you can fashion an alternative plug but to do so requires the cover to be up on the workbench to avoid crankcase contamination.
What do you mean by fashion an alternative plug?

it was the valve timing inspection plug
btw the plug threads are still good. The ones inside the hole are stripped

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Old 05-09-2013, 04:44 PM   #76463
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What do you mean by fashion an alternative plug?

it was the valve timing inspection plug
btw the plug threads are still good. The ones inside the hole are stripped
Probably enlarge the hole, and cut a new, larger (next metric size) thread and use a bigger plug? Definitely unmount the cover if you do this, it will generate a lot of filings.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:16 PM   #76464
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Probably enlarge the hole, and cut a new, larger (next metric size) thread and use a bigger plug? Definitely unmount the cover if you do this, it will generate a lot of filings.
Any idea where I can get a bigger plug? Do you mean drill out the damaged threads till its smooth and use a tap to make new threads?
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:18 PM   #76465
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Correct, except that the symptom of a defective o-ring would be that the bowl overflows, rather than the fuel level stabilizing at a level that is too high.

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On two DRs I'be seen the o-ring seal "intermittently" resulting constant variation of float bowl fuel level. They didn't leak enough to overflow the bowl but they leaked enough to cause some very strange behavior.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:25 PM   #76466
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Stripped inspection screw

I was adjusting the valves today and when I put the plug back in the hole (the one where you check for the t-mark) and tightened it. I heard a snap, then the plug wouldn't tighten anymore - I just kept spinning as I was wrenching. I unscrewed it and now the threads are stripped on the inside of the hole. How do I fix it? I think I caused this back when I didn't have a torque-wrench. Should I drain the oil and pull the cover off to look for metal bits? Thanks
Helicoil. Remove the cover. If you don't have the skills to install a Helicoil or another brand of thread insert yourself take it to a machine shop.
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:35 PM   #76467
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Helicoil. Remove the cover. If you don't have the skills to install a Helicoil or another brand of thread insert yourself take it to a machine shop.
thank you! I don't have the skills or tools, so this is what I will do. Beats buying a new stator cover and gasket :)
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:46 PM   #76468
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In all the posts of fiddling with the Dr, I haven't seen anything about ignition timing. Is it just that good from the factory, or is it virtually unadjustable. I thought most cars/bikes were sold with the ignition on the retarded side to run on cheap gas without pinging .
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Old 05-09-2013, 05:48 PM   #76469
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thank you! I don't have the skills or tools, so this is what I will do. Beats buying a new stator cover and gasket :)
Why not just use an expansion drain plug to seal it up until you have time to do it properly?

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Old 05-09-2013, 06:17 PM   #76470
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Why not just use an expansion drain plug to seal it up until you have time to do it properly?

isn't a thread insert doing it "properly" ? one of those plugs would be nice, but I will have to drain the oil twice if I do that. Its only a 2 mile walk to work, so I'll wait.

should I order a new magneto gasket as well?
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