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Old 05-10-2013, 01:37 AM   #76501
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Anyone else got some suggestions on where to look for problems?
+1 My first thought was oil seeping up past the scraper rings and fouling the plugs. I imagine it would only take a light coating and they'll not fire cleanly enough to start.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:54 AM   #76502
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Laugh Bought this '92 DR650 Dakar about 20 minutes ago...

Hey guys,

Instead of making a new thread I thought I would try it here first. I just got a wonderful '92 DR650 for 500.- Chf which is about 500$. Thing is it was outside for two years with the rain snow sun etc. 16'000 Miles

I am going to pick it up and hopefully I can get it runnig soon. The battery is completely dead and I was forced to buy it withought ever starting it!

Can anyone let me know if I am forgetting anything before I start her for the first time? Keeping in mind its been sitting there like that for two years. (The dent in the tank was from a wind gust that knocked it onto a stone.)

1. Replace Fuel.
2. Charge Battery.
3. Replace Engine Oil.
4. Clean Carbs? <-- (Is that necessary?)



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Old 05-10-2013, 02:59 AM   #76503
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One thing's for sure, you need the pre-'96 thread; here you go:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...61568&page=246

I think there's also a forum at drriders.com

Good luck!


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Old 05-10-2013, 03:27 AM   #76504
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Mojave Shock

Ok, I just installed the Mojave shock.

I thought I was going to be wrestling getting it out and putting the new on in. It was suprising how easy it was to install; even with the airbox etc seemed reletively easy.

I need to test tomorrow but I'm not 100% sure about setting the sag. The preferred measurement, according to Cogent is 85mm (rear wheel fully extended, to when I'm sitting on my bike in riding gear), but I'm not sure which way to turn the "bling ring" to increase or decrease the mm??

Also, I may have to put my daughter (adult) on the bike with a bag of concrete which, would then equal my weight and take measurements, otherwise I can't see the measurements whilst I'm sitting on the bike.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:55 AM   #76505
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isn't a thread insert doing it "properly" ? one of those plugs would be nice, but I will have to drain the oil twice if I do that. Its only a 2 mile walk to work, so I'll wait.

should I order a new magneto gasket as well?
if you can afford it and find them go for a Timesert. http://www.timesert.com/html/mtrcsert.html

install it properly and youll never have to think about it ever again. helicoils sometimes dont last.
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Old 05-10-2013, 04:08 AM   #76506
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Gas in airbox?
we have a winner! checked it this morning and there was fresh fuel on the ground under the bike. pulled the drain plug and a whole heap more cam flowing out. battery had a good charge and after clearing her throat a little the old girl fired right up. thanks for the lesson on that one.

as for oil fouling the plugs, with the angle the DR sits on when resting on the bars on its side and the amount of oil and the size of the engine cavity i cant imagine there would be much chance of actually getting any oil even onto the bottom of the piston, late alone past the rings unless it was sitting upside down. but i guess stranger things have happened.


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Both of those are good ideas. I'd just pull the plugs and let things sit. Do not clean a modern spark plug.

I never, ever do any work on my bike with the fuel tank ON. With the IMS it's off in less than 3 minutes. I set it aside and then have clear access to everything. YMMV.

Did you happen so soak your new clutch plates in oil before installation?
from now on ill be turning the fuel taps off at the very least, the safari is a little more than 3 minutes work to get back on so i prefer to leave it in place but definitely something worth noting in the future. i did give the plates a dip in oil before installing but not a soaking. whats the danger of not applying any oil? i would imagine the oil circuit would coat them all pretty quickly anyway.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:24 AM   #76507
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:26 AM   #76508
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Hey guys,





But before you head over to the pre-96 thread gotta say that looks sweet in red! My first DR 650 was a brand new 92 in blue my current ones my third.....wish the 96 and later had kept the kicker on top of having electric start.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:30 AM   #76509
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On another topic, I need urgent help with the following issue. During my latest 6-mile commute to work the bike was constantly dying during normal driving. It seems the bike cuts out the ignition when in gear, and the engine dies immediately. At this point it also won't crank unless it's in neutral. The problem was intermittent until I actually had to stop on the side of road, took the seat off and started checking the wires.
Apart from the sidestand safety switch, is there anything else that can cause this? I eventually managed to resume my commute and get to work after playing with the wires but I deffinitely need to recheck everything in the morning before heading back home (it's 11PM now). The sidestand safety switch was elliminated by one of the previous owners, now I have a little green connector with two wires soldered together. I need to know if there is anything else I need to re-check, any obvious sub-systems that can cause the described behavior.
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Clutch safety switch. I would also check the wiring for the removed sidestand safety switch with a multi-meter. The solder may have cracked or something.
Well it turns out I could not replicate the problem any longer this morning, the bike just ran without issue no matter how i played with the wires. I guess it must have been the green connector itself (that was intended for the sidestand switch), as I did un-plug and re-plug it. the wires and solder seem ok..
The clutch switch if I understand correctly can definitely prevent me from starting the engine while in gear, but I guess it won't kill an already running engine if it fails.

Gonna spray some contact cleaner in all the connectors today... and hope to not have any further nasty surprises
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Old 05-10-2013, 08:50 AM   #76510
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Forget charging battery, save yourself a lot of trouble, just buy a new one.

[QUOTE=considermichael;21374619]Hey guys,

Instead of making a new thread I thought I would try it here first. I just got a wonderful '92 DR650 for 500.- Chf which is about 500$. Thing is it was outside for two years with the rain snow sun etc. 16'000 Miles

I am going to pick it up and hopefully I can get it runnig soon. The battery is completely dead and I was forced to buy it withought ever starting it!

Can anyone let me know if I am forgetting anything before I start her for the first time? Keeping in mind its been sitting there like that for two years. (The dent in the tank was from a wind gust that knocked it onto a stone.)

1. Replace Fuel.
2. Charge Battery.
3. Replace Engine Oil.
4. Clean Carbs? <-- (Is that necessary?)

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Old 05-10-2013, 09:48 AM   #76511
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On two DRs I'be seen the o-ring seal "intermittently" resulting constant variation of float bowl fuel level. They didn't leak enough to overflow the bowl but they leaked enough to cause some very strange behavior.
By what mechanism would the o-ring stop leaking when a certain fuel level is reached?

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Old 05-10-2013, 09:49 AM   #76512
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*le sigh*

OK, on the plus side - at least this didn't happen until *after* I saw Joan Jett, Cafe Tacuba and the Violent Femmes at Bottlerock (at a costly music festival with $69 ticket fee). And, at least someone was paying attention as I pulled up to the red light and DUMPED OUT ALL MY OIL!!!

Dammit. I thought I was going to go get something to eat at 9:30pm, but apparently I was rolling my motorcycle to the nearby driveway of the passerby who spotted the spill where I was provisioned and charged my iPhone and got a friend to pick me up in Napa and bring me back to Oakland.

Verdict: countershaft seal

Question: where to buy one locally in the Bay Area or dimensions for a suitable replacement (if I wanted to go to, say, Bearing Engineering in Alameda, what are the dimensions)

I'm searching and looking, I swear!
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:56 AM   #76513
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Verdict: countershaft seal

Question: where to buy one locally in the Bay Area or dimensions for a suitable replacement (if I wanted to go to, say, Bearing Engineering in Alameda, what are the dimensions)

I'm searching and looking, I swear!

I cant help you with where to buy a new seal locally but I strongly suggest you get a seal retainer from Procycle to keep the new seal in place.


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Old 05-10-2013, 10:08 AM   #76514
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we have a winner! checked it this morning and there was fresh fuel on the ground under the bike. pulled the drain plug and a whole heap more cam flowing out. battery had a good charge and after clearing her throat a little the old girl fired right up. thanks for the lesson on that one.
Check the oil level and remove the oil fill cap and sniff for gas in the oil.

What was your solution to the leaking carb secondary filter (maybe a month ago)?
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:08 AM   #76515
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I cant help you with where to buy a new seal locally but I strongly suggest you get a seal retainer from Procycle to keep the new seal in place.
That wasn't my question - thanks for trying to be helpful, though. :)

I found dimensions, at least - 25 x 44 x 7 and p/n 09283-25096
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