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Old 05-10-2013, 12:39 PM   #76516
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I left the magneto cover at the machine shop - the mechanic said that he could fix the stripped TDC hole with a locking thread insert, thank God, but he can't get to it until Monday.

Should I use some saran wrap as a makeshift magneto cover, and should I store the gears in the drained motor oil? Any other precautions that I should take while the internals are exposed?

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Old 05-10-2013, 01:20 PM   #76517
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Well it turns out I could not replicate the problem any longer this morning, the bike just ran without issue no matter how i played with the wires. I guess it must have been the green connector itself (that was intended for the sidestand switch), as I did un-plug and re-plug it. the wires and solder seem ok..
The clutch switch if I understand correctly can definitely prevent me from starting the engine while in gear, but I guess it won't kill an already running engine if it fails.

Gonna spray some contact cleaner in all the connectors today... and hope to not have any further nasty surprises

This happened to me last spring. It turns out that I didn't have the negative terminal on the battery tight enough. I turned that screw 1/16th of a turn and that's all it took. I hope it's something as simple as this for you.
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Old 05-10-2013, 01:22 PM   #76518
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If you are in the Bay Area, I recommend Dennis Etcheverri at Norman racing - he fixed two magneto covers while I waited, $20 each and made it look as easy as buttering toast.

That said - I have an extra - I got the magneto protector from Procycle - it's awesome

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I left the magneto cover at the machine shop - the mechanic said that he could fix the stripped TDC hole with a locking thread insert, thank God, but he can't get to it until Monday.

Should I use some saran wrap as a makeshift magneto cover, and should I store the gears in the drained motor oil? Any other precautions that I should take while the internals are exposed?

Thanks
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:05 PM   #76519
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Thanks for your offer - I might take you up on that!

I haven't tried pushing the seal back in place - and here's an interesting question.

Just now, I went out to look at it and put my hand on the front sprocket - there's some play there - I can wiggle it toward me and push back toward the bike.

How snugly should that thing be bolted down?

Is it possible that the motorcycle shop where my friend had it serviced (he borrowed it for the Death Valley trip a couple weeks ago) did not tighten the front sprocket enough when they put my 15t back on and that contributed to the leak?

Also - it had cooled down a bit last night but was only about 60-65 degrees, and I revved the engine when I started it up (choke was on) - but still... I don't remember the front sprocket wiggling at ALL the last time I changed it with Harry.

The oil was completely changed out along with the filter before my friend borrowed it off to Death Valley and the local shop put in 20w50 - I will be using 10w40 forward - is it ok to top off or do I have to dump out and totally replace the current oil in there now?

I found that Bearing Agency in SF on 277 7th has a gasket - it's $10 - the problem is that a) I no longer have motorized transportation; b) so far, places I called say that it has to be specially ordered.

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No worries Jenn ... the wiggly sprocket is normal. There is play there.
You could leave the 20/50 ... just ride gently until HOT.

Another good shop for the DR650 is Werkstatt (in San Fran) Owner Jennifer does a good job and knows the DR pretty well. Just for future reference.
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:10 PM   #76520
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So, my bike is now going really low RPM and stalling out at nearly every stop sign. It was doing this infrequently and now seems to be doing it every stop. It has no problem idling while stationary; it hums along nicely at 1500 +/- (measured by Vapor computer). Choke not needed to start the bike (first poke of the button every time). It doesn't die randomly, surge or otherwise bog or act weird while actually riding. It's not down on power. It's just when the clutch gets pulled in for the final deceleration to a stop (I don't like downshifting to first).

Stock carb, fuel screw out 1.5 turns, snorkel removed. No additional airbox holes, TwinAir air filter.Remote cable choke. Quick twist R1 throttle tube.
Bike was used off and on during the winter, and has fresh 92 octane and a bit of Sea Foam in there.
Under 500mi on new correct spark plugs.

An 09 with 6600 mi. I bought it with 6100 miles. Zero mods were done by previous owner.

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Old 05-10-2013, 02:30 PM   #76521
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So, my bike is now going really low RPM and stalling out at nearly every stop sign. It was doing this infrequently and now seems to be doing it every stop. It has no problem idling while stationary; it hums along nicely at 1500 +/- (measured by Vapor computer). Choke not needed to start the bike (first poke of the button every time). It doesn't die randomly, surge or otherwise bog or act weird while actually riding. It's not down on power. It's just when the clutch gets pulled in for the final deceleration to a stop (I don't like downshifting to first).

Stock carb, fuel screw out 1.5 turns, snorkel removed. No additional airbox holes, TwinAir air filter.Remote cable choke. Quick twist R1 throttle tube.
Bike was used off and on during the winter, and has fresh 92 octane and a bit of Sea Foam in there.
Under 500mi on new correct spark plugs.

An 09 with 6600 mi. I bought it with 6100 miles. Zero mods were done by previous owner.

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maybe your valve clearance is out of spec?
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Old 05-10-2013, 02:40 PM   #76522
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maybe your valve clearance is out of spec?
Thanks - as a matter of fact I checked valves for the first time 2 days ago, and all the thin feelers went in smoothly, and the thicker ones did not... so I think I'm good.
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Old 05-10-2013, 03:33 PM   #76523
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So, my bike is now going really low RPM and stalling out at nearly every stop sign. It was doing this infrequently and now seems to be doing it every stop. It has no problem idling while stationary; it hums along nicely at 1500 +/- (measured by Vapor computer). Choke not needed to start the bike (first poke of the button every time).
That the cold start enrichment circuit doesn't need to be activated for cold starting points to a rich condition. What is the fuel level in the float bowl?

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Old 05-10-2013, 03:48 PM   #76524
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That the cold start enrichment circuit doesn't need to be activated for cold starting points to a rich condition. What is the fuel level in the float bowl?

Regards,

Derek
Thanks for the reply.

I've never checked this before, but I will try the method mentioned a few posts back and measure the diff from 1.5mm. If anyone has a pic of more or less how this method should look on the BST, I'd appreciate.
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:33 PM   #76525
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Congrats on finding the problem!

If clutch plates are not soaked in oil before install they can HEAT UP and glaze. Since they are in ... hmmmm ... I guess start her up but only run her a few minutes, operate clutch lever, let oil work its way around. Then shut her off, let her sit for a half hour, repeat. That should do it, but I would still be careful not to abuse clutch for first 100 miles or so.

I'll let the experts chime in on this one if there is a better method to deal with it. Good luck!
im glad we think alike. thats what i did, engine on, clutch on and off a few times until she warmed up, small ride around the carpark, let her sit in neutral with the clutch on and off again for a while longer. go for a longer ride on the street today and see how we go. ill be avoiding muddy hills for a while then.


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Check the oil level and remove the oil fill cap and sniff for gas in the oil.

What was your solution to the leaking carb secondary filter (maybe a month ago)?
will do on the oil level and sniff test too. oil level seemed ok when i checked it after bolting everything back up and with the bike laying on its left side the engine case breather is way up in the air on the right side of the airbox so hopefully no problems there.

as for the carb vent, inmate chill sent me his old stock filter for free (what a legend) and i finally did something with it yesterday; filled it with oiled filter foam and cable tied some oiled pantyhose over the outside of it. i forget whose idea this was originally but thanks for being smarter than me and that same person probably owes Derek from motolab an appology as i dont think ill need to order carb internals anywhere near as often as i have been in the past

and while im at it, thanks to Jammin for his DR video. i stole you idea of cable tieing some spares behind the rear brake master cylinder guard. i no longer have to find space for those spare brake pads
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Old 05-10-2013, 07:40 PM   #76526
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i forget whose idea this was originally but thanks for being smarter than me and that same person probably owes Derek from motolab an appology as i dont think ill need to order carb internals anywhere near as often as i have been in the past
I'm all for reducing carb parts wear. Otherwise I wouldn't caution against slide drilling nor advocate for better vent filtration.

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Old 05-10-2013, 08:55 PM   #76527
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I'm all for reducing carb parts wear. Otherwise I wouldn't caution against slide drilling nor advocate for better vent filtration.

Regards,

Derek
Poor Vent filtration is I think the reason I wore out my first BST carb. I pulled the Carb apart after several dusty dirt rides and found if full of dirt. I knew it wasn't getting in through the main foam filter. The problem was the poor vent filter. Better filter now and it gets more frequent cleaning and re-oiling.
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:10 PM   #76528
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got extra foot pegs?

hey anyone got some extra pegs and mounting brackets lying around? I need a pair for my '06. Stock ones are just fine, thanks!
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Old 05-10-2013, 09:14 PM   #76529
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Poor Vent filtration is I think the reason I wore out my first BST carb. I pulled the Carb apart after several dusty dirt rides and found if full of dirt. I knew it wasn't getting in through the main foam filter. The problem was the poor vent filter. Better filter now and it gets more frequent cleaning and re-oiling.
Do you mean this? One solution here (thanks to Rusty Rocket):
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...9&postcount=82

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Old 05-10-2013, 09:16 PM   #76530
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hey anyone got some extra pegs and mounting brackets lying around? I need a pair for my '06. Stock ones are just fine, thanks!
Rider or passenger pegs?
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