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Old 05-16-2013, 09:56 AM   #76696
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I have some simple questions for you:

1) Do you deny ...?
2) If not, do you believe...?
Again, trying to deflect from the main point which is your claim that a DR650 can be made to run properly with an open airbox and an OEM needle.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:03 AM   #76697
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I sure wish I had the opportunity to loan my bike to Derek for a while. I've had one interaction, via PM, with Derek. It was very professional.

All the snarky sniping is unbecoming Jeff. I'm not you, but I'd step back just a little. Let people accept or reject Derek's comments unless you know he's saying something absolutely untrue. Otherwise you are coming across (to me) as petty.

If people wanted to be snarky, there are plenty of opportunities to do that related to experiences with Procycle too. Best, in my opinion to treat people or businesses professionally, especially online. You have a lot of experience specifically with the DR. From what I've gathered, Derek has a significant amount of broader knowledge or experience and he is speaking from that broad knowledge and experience.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:05 AM   #76698
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This is what you always do - try to deflect the conversation away from the point. Results are what matters. You have none.
I do have proof that the DJ needle does not work. Where is proof to the contrary?

My questions were right to the point, because either the needle shape trends are not the needle shape trends, the the needle shape trends are the needle shape trends and the DR650 is somehow exempt from them, or the non-USA adjustable OEM needle will work better than the DJ.

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Old 05-16-2013, 10:06 AM   #76699
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Again, trying to deflect from the main point which is your claim that a DR650 can be made to run properly with an open airbox and an OEM needle.
I unwaveringly maintain that it can be made to work better than the DJ needle.

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Old 05-16-2013, 10:48 AM   #76700
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I do have proof that the DJ needle does not work. Where is proof to the contrary?k
Yet again, trying to deflect from the main point which is your claim that a DR650 can be made to run properly with an open airbox and an OEM needle.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:49 AM   #76701
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I unwaveringly maintain that it can be made to work better than the DJ needle.
Yes, you have said that countless times but offer no results to back it up.
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Old 05-16-2013, 10:58 AM   #76702
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All the snarky sniping is unbecoming Jeff. I'm not you, but I'd step back just a little.
I apologize if I am comming off as snarky. It is certainly not my intention. Maybe adding some smileys will show that I have no animosity. I'm not trying to beat Derek up. I truly wish he would produce the results I am asking about. I believe such an accomplishment would benefit all DR650 riders who want to improve their motorcycles.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:12 PM   #76703
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One slight correction though - it's CO (rather than CO2) that's the best indicator of mixture strength, and would therefore hopefully be shown on a dyno chart.
My mistake. I corrected it (so no one gets confused).
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This is what it takes to make the DR run properly with an OEM needle.
Thanks for confirming Jeff, I may start a search for an unmolested air box.
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:15 PM   #76704
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I may start a search for an unmolested air box.
Are there any charts to look at with the modified airbox in place?

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Old 05-16-2013, 12:26 PM   #76705
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:44 PM   #76706
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Help me ID this Mystery Part

hmmm..... I just discovered today that a pair of "DR" headlamp/fairing "ears" I have had stashed are not....
But on a glance, they look like they are, and are actually identical in most respects except they are for a bike with bigger diameter fork tubes: 50mm to be exact. And the spacing of the rings is about 15cm

DR Big?

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Old 05-16-2013, 12:48 PM   #76707
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hmmm..... I just discovered today that a pair of "DR" headlamp/fairing "ears" I have had stashed are not....
But on a glance, they look like they are, and are actually identical in most respects except they are for a bike with bigger diameter fork tubes: 50mm to be exact. And the spacing of the rings is about 15cm
DRZ400SM
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Old 05-16-2013, 12:49 PM   #76708
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hmmm..... I just discovered today that a pair of "DR" headlamp/fairing "ears" I have had stashed are not....
But on a glance, they look like they are, and are actually identical in most respects except they are for a bike with bigger diameter fork tubes: 50mm to be exact. And the spacing of the rings is about 15cm

DR Big?

They're from a DRZ Sm. Can also be used with the factory DR headlight assembly if you convert to USD forks.
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:13 PM   #76709
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And I think I have a case of concentric depression....
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Old 05-16-2013, 01:23 PM   #76710
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My DR has stock jetting,stock airbox with snorkle,stock pipe,yet I still get out of bed and put my pants on one leg at a time just like most guys.

Even with stock HP it handles like a pissed off hog if I pitch it sideways and pin it like my 530 KTM loves to do.
Im glad it doesnt make any more power,it dont need it.
Except maybe on the pavemento where all singles are too slow.

Feel free to continue with the jetting/carb/airbox wars though.
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