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Old 05-18-2013, 12:01 PM   #76801
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No oil on a K&N

Are you saying don't use motor oil or no oil? Cause, last time I checked KN uses oil. They advise using their oil but I doubt it makes a difference.

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Old 05-18-2013, 12:15 PM   #76802
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No. Didn't put any oil on the purple filter!


More on Carl's Million Mile Truck Here! The Importance of Oil
A K&N Air Filter is made of 4 to 6 layers of cotton gauze sandwiched between two epoxy-coated aluminum wire screens. The cotton is treated with a specially formulated grade of oil causing tackiness throughout the cotton’s microscopic strands. The nature of the cotton allows high volumes of airflow, and when combined with the tackiness of the oil creates a powerful filtering media that ensures engine protection. In contrast, most other media can not maintain the same balance of airflow and filtration throughout the filter's life without sacrificing one or the other. With a K&N Air Filter, there is no sacrifice.

I was under the impression you only oil them after cleaning, they come pre-oiled.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:20 PM   #76803
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Hey James,
Sounds like you've got a lot of this covered.
The stock Fuel screw has: Washer, O ring, Spring. I used the stock items on my extended fuel screw. It worked fine. (Ty Davis fuel screw)

Good luck!
No. How do I know? I spent all summer chasing a stumble at idle. I had the o-ring between the spring and washer. It's spring, washer, o-ring. Think about that o-ring getting chewed up by the end of the spring.

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Are you saying don't use motor oil or no oil? Cause, last time I checked KN uses oil. They advise using their oil but I doubt it makes a difference.

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Old 05-18-2013, 12:21 PM   #76804
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No. Didn't put any oil on the purple filter!
If your filter looks like it has a red or pink tint , it's been pre-oiled. K&Ns ARE supposed to be oiled with AIR_FILTER oil.
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Old 05-18-2013, 12:30 PM   #76805
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If your filter looks like it has a red or pink tint , it's been pre-oiled. K&Ns ARE supposed to be oiled with AIR_FILTER oil.

Yep red/pink or purple....it's pre-oiled. I just installed it as is.

Air screw is Screw/spring/washer/O ring. I installed it like this with O ring on bottom of course.

I'm thinking the air screw is messed up or I pinched the intake rubber.

I just did all of this to our other DR and it runs great, does pop a tad on de-cell but not bothersome.

Slow breakfast, emails, ADV, and then out to take a look.

I just wondered if I overlooked something obvious, or it's a common problem. I must have done something wrong
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:14 PM   #76806
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Yep red/pink or purple....it's pre-oiled. I just installed it as is.

Air screw is Screw/spring/washer/O ring. I installed it like this with O ring on bottom of course.

I'm thinking the air screw is messed up or I pinched the intake rubber.

I just did all of this to our other DR and it runs great, does pop a tad on de-cell but not bothersome.

Slow breakfast, emails, ADV, and then out to take a look.

I just wondered if I overlooked something obvious, or it's a common problem. I must have done something wrong
Try it with the new screw and old filter. I think your lean , due to both the pipe and filter. Rejet time.
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Old 05-18-2013, 01:54 PM   #76807
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Try it with the new screw and old filter. I think your lean , due to both the pipe and filter. Rejet time.

Got it!

Milano Bambino phoned me and told me to pull the fuel screw, I did

it had the old washer and O ring sitting on top of the new one

Put the new one back in, turned it out one full turn, started it up, purrs like a kitten!

So, when you think you know what you are doing shit still happens . I ought to know better. Now I'M BECOMING AN EXPERT

We have two DR's. I am doing most every mod twice. Prepping them for long distance good road surface travel. Tierra Del Fuego is the dream!

Flipped both to Factory lowered
Done both air filters/fuel screws
Two Acerbis tanks (2 taps)
Two mid pipes/2 GSXR 750 cans
Two front sprocket retainer
Two 16T fronts
Two neutral safety switch mod
Two sets side case protectors
Dozens of Stainless Socket head Allens
Two shortened side stands

Looking for recommendations on skid plates

Still not decided on luggage. Have left over TT top boxes but no sides yet.

Also thinking about Dash Boards. May move the IGN, idiot lights and remove Speedo and use GPS. Can barely see the idiot lights and IGN is a pain to use with gloves on.

Done one HDB handguards but not overly impressed. May just do Acerbis on the other.

Thinking about higher Fatbars.

Oh, got two National Cycle windshield.

Vendors gotta love me!
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Old 05-18-2013, 02:15 PM   #76808
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Sounds like me when I was prepping my son's DR along with mine. Even sold my FCR and put a TM40 on to match his. Then he sold it.

If you're ever in San Diego and need/want anything, PM me.
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Old 05-18-2013, 04:38 PM   #76809
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Sounds like me when I was prepping my son's DR along with mine. Even sold my FCR and put a TM40 on to match his. Then he sold it.

If you're ever in San Diego and need/want anything, PM me.

All right Man! We go to Oceanside Harbor often in our Motorhome.

Go to Baja on the bikes often too, usually enter through Tijuana.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:37 PM   #76810
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No. How do I know? I spent all summer chasing a stumble at idle. I had the o-ring between the spring and washer. It's spring, washer, o-ring. Think about that o-ring getting chewed up by the end of the spring.

Oh sorry, I should have put them in order. My point was Tuckers did not mention a WASHER in his post. I'm not sure of the order, just wanted to list what is in there.

When I did mine I just copied the OEM set up after pulling out stock fuel screw, re-installed extended fuel screw, putting spring, washer and O ring in the order they came out in.

I think you've got it right ... the O ring is first, then the washer, which holds it evenly in place, then the Spring to act as a sort of detent for the screw so that your adjustment stays put. Is that right?
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #76811
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:55 PM   #76812
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Yeah the O ring sits in the carb as gasket

I had inadvertently left the old O ring and washer in and put the new o ring and washer on top.
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Old 05-18-2013, 05:57 PM   #76813
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Got it!
We have two DR's. I am doing most every mod twice. Prepping them for long distance good road surface travel. Tierra Del Fuego is the dream!

Flipped both to Factory lowered
Done both air filters/fuel screws
Two Acerbis tanks (2 taps)
Two mid pipes/2 GSXR 750 cans
Two front sprocket retainer
Two 16T fronts
Two neutral safety switch mod
Two sets side case protectors
Dozens of Stainless Socket head Allens
Two shortened side stands

Looking for recommendations on skid plates

Still not decided on luggage. Have left over TT top boxes but no sides yet.

Also thinking about Dash Boards. May move the IGN, idiot lights and remove Speedo and use GPS. Can barely see the idiot lights and IGN is a pain to use with gloves on.
You'll be an expert in No Time. Congrats on proving again it's hard to screw up the DR650 ... its most always a simple fix!

Awesome on your prep. Good to do long shake down ride, testing out all the gear and see how the bikes do. In a week or two on the road you'll learn LOTS about what you two like and don't. Then you can come home and spend even MORE MONEY! Be very careful if you re-do dash and electrics. Should be Pro done or very close ... and make sure YOU can diagnose and fix it on the side of the road ... in Bolivia, at night ... in the rain!

Keep in mind a South America trip will be mostly paved roads. At least 60%, unless you really go out of your way to seek out dirt routes. If you wanted to you could probably do 90% paved roads ... but you'd be skipping some cool sections ... like North Eastern Peru' and the Salar de Uyuni in Bolivia, the Death Road, to mention just a few.

If doing some off road (mostly easy dirt roads) then I'd go with Soft Luggage. Much lighter weight. Limits what you can carry. (a good thing)

I've been prepping for a little Grand Canyon ride next week. I'm sure as soon as I mention this something will screw up ... then you guys can laugh at me. Here is my set up with "new to me" Nelson-Rigg bags and duffel bag on top for camping equip.
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Old 05-18-2013, 07:40 PM   #76814
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I've been prepping for a little Grand Canyon ride next week. I'm sure as soon as I mention this something will screw up ... then you guys can laugh at me. Here is my set up with "new to me" Nelson-Rigg bags and duffel bag on top for camping equip.
Thanks for posting this picture. I have finally found a rider who puts more crap on his bike than I do.
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Old 05-18-2013, 08:24 PM   #76815
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Yeah the O ring sits in the carb as gasket

I had inadvertently left the old O ring and washer in and put the new o ring and washer on top.
Sucks to be human. I ended up divorced because my ex laughed AT me instead of WITH me.
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