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Old 06-03-2013, 08:36 PM   #77311
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like i said, i dont know a lot engines but potentially doubling the power sounds insane. and a lot of fun.
You'd need liquid cooling to do that, and you'd still have a tough time getting to 70 hp.

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Old 06-03-2013, 09:01 PM   #77312
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I know guys say they make 80 HP from a single cylinder,Ive yet to see any dyno chart showing such a thing. 80HP is a lot for huffing single to put out.
Maybe a nitro burning hillclimb bike but even then its a stretch.

My stock 530 will wheelie at high speeds and holding it wide open for long takes a whole bunch of room,its not making 50HP at the back wheel.
Talking injected 800+cc singles very purpose built, water cooled of course, not nitro but race gas. My friend Norm's Raptor was over 80 dyno'd, past 100 on nitrous. Very impressive to see them shoot a big sand dune. These ain't ride-around bikes of course, my post was for comparison's sake that while big numbers are possible in a thumper it's not done in an air cooled bike with cam and piston change.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:02 PM   #77313
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The blue tube of Loctite Ive got has blue liquid,like every tube of blue Ive had. The thing with the NSU screws and Loctite is the threads have to be super clean for the loctite to work,blown out with a good cleaner.

Be hard to do with the clutch in place using the bent screwdriver trick.
You get the Phillips out with a bent screwdriver and replace them with Stainless Allen heads. I drilled mine with a 1/16th bit and also safety wired them.

On reflection it would be better just to yank the whole shebang and bin it. We never had a green light in the old days and we managed quite well.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:26 PM   #77314
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What Rotax single makes 80HP?
I don't find that number to be believable, certainly not at the tire.
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A full boat big bore Rotax set up for flattrack back in the day could make 70 something HP, but not to Alaska and back like a mildly tuned single.
At the rear tire, I don't find 70 hp to be believable either.
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A DR makes 35 HP because its designed to make good torque and run a long time
While being air-cooled and running on pump gas.

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Old 06-03-2013, 09:40 PM   #77315
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Plenty of tuned Husaberg 650s with 70+ hp.

Mine with only exhaust and carb tuning is 63 Dynojet Hp at the knobs.
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Old 06-03-2013, 09:49 PM   #77316
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Plenty of tuned Husaberg 650s with 70+ hp.
Measured where and by what method?
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Mine with only exhaust and carb tuning is 63 Dynojet Hp at the knobs.
Dynojet HP are very optimistic.

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Old 06-03-2013, 11:56 PM   #77317
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Yep, "red" Loctite seems to be the internet cure all with little regard to the suitability for the application. They are often misused by the "experts" in more applications than just thread locking.

"Red"usually refers to Loctite 263, 270, 271 or 272 thread lockers which will work, but those screws will never be coming out... There is little on these bikes that should require such heavy handed treatment.

"Blue" usually refers to Loctite 242 or 243 - it's a red bottle, likely with a blue band and has blue contents. It is all that is ever required on a bike for bolts M6 and over. Use 242 or 243 on the NSU screws. It will also serve on much of the rest of the bike...

The other tool in the box is Loctite 222 (Purple) for small bolts or bolts that do not take a lot of torque. It is used as a light thread retainer.

Loctite US sites:
Retail: http://www.loctiteproducts.com/p/t_l...r-Blue-242.htm
Industrial: http://www.henkelna.com/industrial/p...ode%3Dfaceted|

The Au site might be a little easier as a guide.
http://au.iloctite.com/en/loctite-22...-threadlockers



This Permatex product is the equivalent to Loctite 242/243
http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...er-blue-detail

This Permatex product is the equivalent to Loctite 222
http://www.permatex.com/products/pro...-purple-detail
This is very good information. This should be preserved somewhere.
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Old 06-04-2013, 02:53 AM   #77318
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Compaired to riding this to my DR, the DR is like riding a wrist watch
Ron Wood built bored, hc piston, flatslides, ported, K&N claimed 80hp no dyno proof
it wood Shake! cool factor design- gas tank under the motor low CG

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750cc single, 78ps at 8,500rpm, 8.2:1 compression.

They pulled an engine from a ralley bike and changed the cams and timing.
The low compression was for the variable quality African fuel and so it could be kick started.

With FI they were expecting 85ps at 8,500rpm and the engine would rev to 9,300rpm.
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Old 06-04-2013, 03:36 AM   #77319
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DR650 light bulb replacement

Good day all,
My headlight bulb blew this am, and I'm wondering if there is a brighter bulb replacement that is still the 55/65watt rating?( I think that is what the stock wattage is) Thanks!
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Old 06-04-2013, 04:01 AM   #77320
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Lighting

More than you asked for, but lots of good info:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=628437

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Old 06-04-2013, 05:18 AM   #77321
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This is very good information. This should be preserved somewhere.
It is done ...
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:35 AM   #77322
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I'm thinking of trying the TPI super low beam bulb. Anybody have experience with these?
http://www.tpimotorcycleparts.com/on...product_id=593

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Good day all,
My headlight bulb blew this am, and I'm wondering if there is a brighter bulb replacement that is still the 55/65watt rating?( I think that is what the stock wattage is) Thanks!
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Old 06-04-2013, 05:41 AM   #77323
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Thanks Sara, good info.

psmcd, this would be the way I would go if I didn't already have some aux. lights on the mighty DR.
I'm just looking for the same wattage replacement bulb for the headlight that blew this morning, and was wondering if there was a brighter one out there. As for more lighting,I have the Mondomoto lights, 10mm I believe and they work nice.




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I'm thinking of trying the TPI super low beam bulb. Anybody have experience with these?
http://www.tpimotorcycleparts.com/on...product_id=593

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Old 06-04-2013, 06:42 AM   #77324
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This is very good information. This should be preserved somewhere.
If you ever have any questions about Loc-Tite products, send a PM to inmate 'dirty sanchez'. Chip works for Loc-Tite and will tell you exactly what you need, product-wise, and what pitfalls to avoid.
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Old 06-04-2013, 06:53 AM   #77325
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