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Old 06-19-2013, 04:05 PM   #77761
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[....] Newer DR's seem to be found with tighter NSU bolts. A good thing! But allen heads and Loctite are my preference.
AG - Is this true? What years ? My impression as of 2010 was that Suzuki still didn't care.

My new 09 was ridden 60 miles in late 09, then sat in pieces in the garage until mid 11 when I did the NSU. Mine were barely finger tight on the upper screw and two-finger tight on the lower screw.

I removed the clutch basket, degreased, and did it properly - belts and suspenders - with both Loctite and safety wired allen heads. 6000 miles later and of course no problems. Headed back out this fall ...

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Old 06-19-2013, 05:18 PM   #77762
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I just ordered one of these: http://thetooltube.com/ToolTube.html



Anyone know if this will fit roughly in the same area as the standard DR tool tube? Any pictures out there of innovative mounting systems? I don't want it down in front of the engine, but I'm open to suggestions.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:19 PM   #77763
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Been down the F650GS (single) and Weestrom road. Both great bikes for what they are - more highway capable but heavier offroad than the DR. Even though I have mine set up with more street bias (lowered, 19 in. front wheel and higher 16T front gear) it is still more capable in the dirt than the others. All bikes are a compromise, but the DR works best for me. You will have to decide what kind of riding you want to do and base your decision on that. Good luck.
Thanks again everyone good info.

I will have to read Adam's blog looked like a lot on good info.

I guess I should have explain my intentions for the Dr.
The Wee for longer trips it's very comfortable for me and does gravel okay.
Although I have had the shit scared out of me on a few occasions.

The DR is for shorter trips where there's more dirt and gravel and who knows what.
Think I'll go see if I can talk them down a bit.
Sounds like I've made up my mind???

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Old 06-19-2013, 05:32 PM   #77764
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I just ordered one of these: http://thetooltube.com/ToolTube.html



Anyone know if this will fit roughly in the same area as the standard DR tool tube? Any pictures out there of innovative mounting systems? I don't want it down in front of the engine, but I'm open to suggestions.
Right now I have mine zip tied to my rear rack and use my stock tool tube as well.
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Old 06-19-2013, 05:36 PM   #77765
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Right now I have mine zip tied to my rear rack and use my stock tool tube as well.
Interesting. I was kinda hoping to only have one tool tube, but maybe that's unrealistic if I want to carry a spare set of inner tubes.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:32 PM   #77766
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I just ordered one of these: http://thetooltube.com/ToolTube.html



Anyone know if this will fit roughly in the same area as the standard DR tool tube? Any pictures out there of innovative mounting systems? I don't want it down in front of the engine, but I'm open to suggestions.




I fit mine on a piece of aluminum angle. I later installed a 12 volt outlet in the aluminum above the tube.
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:43 PM   #77767
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Interesting. I was kinda hoping to only have one tool tube, but maybe that's unrealistic if I want to carry a spare set of inner tubes.
The tool tube does fit in place of the stock tube and is functional, looky here. However, recently I've been thinking of something a bit bigger. I'd like to carry tools, tube(s), pump in one spot. Maybe a Pelican 1170. Mocked up a box the same size and it might fit in place of the stock tube but probably would need to be mounted more outboard. The R1??0GS guys mount them all over the place and I found a XR650 thread here with one mounted so the lid opened inward and set on the rear tire to make a nice platform. Haven't seen the 1170 used on DR650's, has anyone else?
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Old 06-19-2013, 06:46 PM   #77768
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I just ordered one of these: http://thetooltube.com/ToolTube.html



Anyone know if this will fit roughly in the same area as the standard DR tool tube? Any pictures out there of innovative mounting systems? I don't want it down in front of the engine, but I'm open to suggestions.
If you got the smaller diameter, two tubes are going to just about fill it up.

Mine:
Two tubes in the fender bag, the red bungee keeps the bag from sliding forward under heavy braking, two 16" tire irons in the tailbag, tool roll in the 12-3/4" x 4-1/2" tool tube. The tool roll barely fits.

The plastic bracket with one mounting hole has broken on some, so I don't trust it.

Details on the mounting:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=60

More ideas in Krusty's Index:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636483

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Old 06-19-2013, 06:52 PM   #77769
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I fit mine on a piece of aluminum angle. I later installed a 12 volt outlet in the aluminum above the tube.
I see you also have the side cover tab outside the normal location, inside the rear fender piece. Was that necessary for clearance?
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:04 PM   #77770
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there are a half dozen methods and probably a dozen threads on drriders as to how to effectively mount that exact tool tube. I used the $10 exhaust flange method myself.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:07 PM   #77771
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If you got the smaller diameter, two tubes are going to just about fill it up.

Mine:
Two tubes in the fender bag, the red bungee keeps the bag from sliding forward under heavy braking, two 16" tire irons in the tailbag, tool roll in the 12-3/4" x 4-1/2" tool tube. The tool roll barely fits.

The plastic bracket with one mounting hole has broken on some, so I don't trust it.

Details on the mounting:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...8&postcount=60

More ideas in Krusty's Index:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=636483
Thanks; that's very useful info. I think a fender bag for the tubes is in the cards but I hope to put all my tools and tire irons in the tube. Wish me luck.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:08 PM   #77772
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AG - Is this true? What years ? My impression as of 2010 was that Suzuki still didn't care.
Apparently, a couple of years ago Suzuki started using allen head screws for the NSU. The new style screws don't really address the problem. It root of the NSU screw problem is that the screws tighten up against the plastic of the NSU body. The plastic eventually collapses a little bit leaving the screws with little or no tension on them. Suzuki should put some metal collars in the screw holes in the NSU body. Then the screws would stay tight. Of course that would require redesigning the NSU.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:34 PM   #77773
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Tool tube...

It has been suggested to me by an inmate that one can make a tool tube 19" long by 3" diameter out of ABS pipe. I'm going to try that out. It seems like max capacity and sturdy as well.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:39 PM   #77774
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It has been suggested to me by an inmate that one can make a tool tube 19" long by 3" diameter out of ABS pipe. I'm going to try that out. It seems like max capacity and sturdy as well.
I used a piece of air duct (4"), the bottom to a coffee can epoxied in one end, and one of those pipe inspection port plugs for the other. Cost nothing (had the stuff around) and does the job. It's zip tied with the 3/8" wide ties to my frame and wolfman racks. Holds everything I would ever want to have, including tire irons, patches, air pump, expanded tool kit, basic first air kit, extra contacts, zip ties, gorrila tape, and more. I think it's about 15-18" long, IIRC.
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Old 06-19-2013, 07:40 PM   #77775
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6'3 185 lbs, plan on riding single track in my backyard with the nephews (going very slow). ADV rides which will consist of 40% gravel and dirt roads, 30% highway and 30% single/jeep trails. Planning numerous 2-3 day rides which means I will be packing my gear (~30lbs) doing the above type riding.

Owned a 2005 KLR and did a few weekend rides. My opinion was it was too big, heavy and lethargic.

Budget is ~$3500.

Shooting from the hip, DRZ400, DR650 or be patient and find a TE610?
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