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Old 06-20-2013, 04:51 PM   #77761
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Time for some new rubber. Need a good all around tire. Hated the stock tire-went the Kenda 270 route and want to try something else. Give me some ideas and how you liked the tires used.
Front, rear, or both?

What would you like to improve about the K270?

I run a rear 5.10 K270 and a front sand-knobby currently. The front K270 is not as well-liked as the rear by some because the side-knobs flex noticeably while cornering on pavement. I don't notice it on the rear. The Shinko 244 is similar to the K270, but it's side-knobs are better bolstered. When I run a front 244, it corners pretty well on pavement. I prefer an aggressive front knob for the sand around here though. As long as the rear can propel the bike, it usually works ok for me offroad. The rear K270 works well for me and the riding I do, other than chunking and wearing quickly when I beat the heck out of it. I might try the Shinko 244 rear to check it's longevity, but I'm going to stay with something more aggressive up front, like the IRC TR8.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:37 PM   #77762
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New DR

Just picked up a 2013--this is my second or third I've got CRS. Anyway have not had one for 5+ years and I need to farkle this thing. Skid plate, bar guards (Crya) small rear rack, clutch and stator stick on plate covers, maybe a center stand, just the normal fall over protection stuff.
Any of you current users found a central place to order this stuff--I haven't done it in a long time.
Any other good protection stuff come up in recent years?
Like some protection for the oil filter cover--never did one in but I have seen a few cracked.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions--just looking to go to a single source if possible.
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Old 06-20-2013, 05:57 PM   #77763
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I get my stuff from:

http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html

And.

http://www.kientech.com/DR650ProdList.htm

Both great suppliers.

Gosh sounds like I am pushing drugs

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Just picked up a 2013--this is my second or third I've got CRS. Anyway have not had one for 5+ years and I need to farkle this thing. Skid plate, bar guards (Crya) small rear rack, clutch and stator stick on plate covers, maybe a center stand, just the normal fall over protection stuff.
Any of you current users found a central place to order this stuff--I haven't done it in a long time.
Any other good protection stuff come up in recent years?
Like some protection for the oil filter cover--never did one in but I have seen a few cracked.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions--just looking to go to a single source if possible.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #77764
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Any of you current users found a central place to order this stuff--I haven't done it in a long time.
+1 http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html

Cut up your credit card now... just do it.

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Old 06-20-2013, 06:16 PM   #77765
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I get my stuff from:

http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html

And.

http://www.kientech.com/DR650ProdList.htm

Both great suppliers.

Gosh sounds like I am pushing drugs

You pretty much are, most of us can proudly say we are addicted.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:34 PM   #77766
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As someone who is doing a long trip on the Dr, I can say its a compromise bike. There are times I wish I had my Bandit for the power, times I wish I had an Electra glide for the seat, times I wish I had a KTM 450 for nasty offroad, etc. But, I've been using it for everything. I will say if you are going to climb any loose terrain or rocky terrain, you need a knobby rear, because once that weight loses momentum, you're turning around.

Plenty of guys have more skill and are better than me off road, but it has worked for me. I might try a drz with a nova gear set, and see if I like it. That said, the 650 already has low power/torque compared to a road bike, so a 400 might be a bit much. I think a dr790 might be my best bet.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:42 PM   #77767
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Just picked up a 2013--this is my second or third I've got CRS. Anyway have not had one for 5+ years and I need to farkle this thing. Skid plate, bar guards (Crya) small rear rack, clutch and stator stick on plate covers, maybe a center stand, just the normal fall over protection stuff.
Any of you current users found a central place to order this stuff--I haven't done it in a long time.
Any other good protection stuff come up in recent years?
Like some protection for the oil filter cover--never did one in but I have seen a few cracked.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions--just looking to go to a single source if possible.
Procycle has a bunch of stuff. Kientech does too. I also buy a lot of used stuff on Ebay and the classifieds on this site and and at www.drriders.com. Post an ad for what you want. Somebody might have stuff sitting in their garage.

I also buy a bunch of things from cyclegear.com, bikebandit.com, motorcycle-superstore.com, and several other vendors you can read about here.
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Old 06-20-2013, 06:56 PM   #77768
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6'3 185 lbs, plan on riding single track in my backyard with the nephews (going very slow). ADV rides which will consist of 40% gravel and dirt roads, 30% highway and 30% single/jeep trails. Planning numerous 2-3 day rides which means I will be packing my gear (~30lbs) doing the above type riding.

Owned a 2005 KLR and did a few weekend rides. My opinion was it was too big, heavy and lethargic.

Budget is ~$3500.

Shooting from the hip, DRZ400, DR650 or be patient and find a TE610?
I know others have given their opinion. I've owned a couple KLR's, a really well set up DRZ, and a well set up DR. Haven't tried the 610 yet.

My opinion--I think the DRZ is over-rated. I know it's a better off-road bike than the DR, but it feels to me about 15% better off-road, but the DRZ is like 40% worse on road (if that makes sense). I don't think it is good enough off-road to make up for its on-road manners. If you want something better for single-track, you could definitely do better than the DR, but it's a great do-it-all bike. If you are really planning on mostly single-track--get something else. If you want one bike to do it all, the DR650 is great. It can do single track better than you'd imagine, but it can also do several hundred miles on the highway better than you'd imagine as well. It's a great compromise between dirt and street.
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Old 06-20-2013, 07:47 PM   #77769
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Cut up your credit card now... just do it.

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Old 06-20-2013, 07:49 PM   #77770
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Volt meter reads Lower at higher RPM than at Idle

I have one of those nifty Numeric readout volt meters on my dash. Thought it was a good idea with Heated grips and other Plug-in stuff.

At Idle (1500-1600 RPMs) the volt meter reads 13.6 to 13.8 with nothing turned on or plugged in. Running down the road (say 3-5k RPMs) it is actually Lower Voltage, say around 13.2-13.4.

Now, I know this is telling me that it's charging, but I was always under the impression that it would charge more at higher RPMs.

Do I misunderstand and this normal behavior or should I start poking around the electrical system? And Since I'm not much of a mechanic (especially where wires are concerned) where should I start looking?

Thanks in advance for any feedback
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:21 PM   #77771
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I have one of those nifty Numeric readout volt meters on my dash. Thought it was a good idea with Heated grips and other Plug-in stuff.

At Idle (1500-1600 RPMs) the volt meter reads 13.6 to 13.8 with nothing turned on or plugged in. Running down the road (say 3-5k RPMs) it is actually Lower Voltage, say around 13.2-13.4.

Now, I know this is telling me that it's charging, but I was always under the impression that it would charge more at higher RPMs.

Do I misunderstand and this normal behavior or should I start poking around the electrical system? And Since I'm not much of a mechanic (especially where wires are concerned) where should I start looking?

Thanks in advance for any feedback
So do I, and that seems like an issue. On mine it is the same thing as yours at idle, but goes up to 14.6 v when running on highway. I have an upgraded stator and regulator though, so perhaps that's why? I am under the impression the regulator shunts excess amperage to ground to avoid overcharging (converting it to heat which must be dissipated hence an upgraded regulator when using an upgraded stator).
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:33 PM   #77772
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I know others have given their opinion. I've owned a couple KLR's, a really well set up DRZ, and a well set up DR. Haven't tried the 610 yet.

My opinion--I think the DRZ is over-rated. I know it's a better off-road bike than the DR, but it feels to me about 15% better off-road, but the DRZ is like 40% worse on road (if that makes sense). I don't think it is good enough off-road to make up for its on-road manners. If you want something better for single-track, you could definitely do better than the DR, but it's a great do-it-all bike. If you are really planning on mostly single-track--get something else. If you want one bike to do it all, the DR650 is great. It can do single track better than you'd imagine, but it can also do several hundred miles on the highway better than you'd imagine as well. It's a great compromise between dirt and street.
Interesting. I'll have to find someone willing to bike swap for a day and see if I find that to be true with the DRz.

The te610 was on my list too, but it was hard to find and I would have already had to swap the cam chain (from what I understand) and possibly the rollers (?) once on my current trip. Also, never underestimate the importance of a strong subframe. I only carry 50lbs on this trip, but I've had up to 70 carrying a tire and extra fuel etc down washboard roads and rocky trails- never an issue. I'm not sure a 610 could do that.. I wouldn't worry about 3rd gear though (ducks behind wall). It all comes down to what you want really. I can endure much strife on the road, but I can't make weight go away off road. This is why I've considered a drz, ktm690, wr250r, etc. That said, I'm a traveler and I use a bikes dirt performance to get me to places many will never see- the DR is great for that, and it will play dirt bike or road bike OK. I think the KTM 690 is possibly the best dual sport at this point, but I don't like things I can't fix..
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Old 06-20-2013, 08:52 PM   #77773
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I get my stuff from:

http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html

And.

http://www.kientech.com/DR650ProdList.htm

Both great suppliers.

Gosh sounds like I am pushing drugs
Not "drugs" mate,

"DR-ugs"

Or maybe "DR-ughs" since our credit cards make us say UGH! hen we get the monthly statement .
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:00 PM   #77774
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At Idle (1500-1600 RPMs) the volt meter reads 13.6 to 13.8 with nothing turned on or plugged in. Running down the road (say 3-5k RPMs) it is actually Lower Voltage, say around 13.2-13.4.
That is normal behavior. The OEM stators in most street going motorcycles are optimized for maximum output at or just above idle speed. The reason is the output curve drops slowly above the peak output rpm but drops off steeply below the peak rpm. The factories want it to be able to charge the battery in slow city traffic.
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Old 06-20-2013, 09:08 PM   #77775
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That is normal behavior. The OEM stators in most street going motorcycles are optimized for maximum output at or just above idle speed. The reason is the output curve drops slowly above the peak output rpm but drops off steeply below the peak rpm. The factories want it to be able to charge the battery in slow city traffic.
So what's the difference with the aftermarket one you guys sell? If it puts out more wattage than stock and wattage is a calculation of amperage vs voltage, with more volts at higher rpms is it also moving more amperage? I would assume so since the amount of current is what matters so long as its supplied in the right voltage form. And how does rewiring the stator affect output for the better?
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