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Old 07-11-2013, 02:11 PM   #78586
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Need some help. So I had the chain replaced. I noticed slop when I put it back together holding the rear of the tire and pulling back and forth. Checking rear wheel bearings everything seems smooth with no slop. Checking the cush hub bearing it feels rough and there is slop. Bearing has 22k on it now. The cush hub rubbers look a little worn (new before trip started). Napa in town has 2 bearings that match the skf part number and I'm getting both. Anything else I need to know? I've read about spacers and all that and I'm not too familiar with this part of the bike.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:15 PM   #78587
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Need some help. So I had the chain replaced. I noticed slop when I put it back together holding the rear of the tire and pulling back and forth. Checking rear wheel bearings everything seems smooth with no slop. Checking the cush hub bearing it feels rough and there is slop. Bearing has 22k on it now. The cush hub rubbers look a little worn (new before trip started). Napa in town has 2 bearings that match the skf part number and I'm getting both. Anything else I need to know? I've read about spacers and all that and I'm not too familiar with this part of the bike.
Check procycle http://www.procycle.us/bikepages/dr650.html#drivetrain

they have the rubbers and the bearing and seal you need. It will come in the mail i like 2 days and you'll save gasoline by not running around looking for what you need.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:16 PM   #78588
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I agree totally,CITY BIKE is a class act,they cater to the little man,offered psychiatric advice when needed to lost readers,generally tried to keep things real.

I saw the "world's oldest newspaper boy" and listened to him speak at the Auburn fairgrounds BMW rally. A true rebel and I liked him.

Is City Bike teats up? Hard to find it in Chico so I havent kept up.
I'll have to check out MCN.
"The World's Oldest ..." sold off City Bike a few years back. It is still out there ... but all the good writers are gone now. Gabe is editor and is good, a funny guy. But he and his partner are there to make money (good luck with that on a FREE newspaper! ) ... so the "old" City Bike is truly gone.

The World's Oldest and I ride quite a bit. We just did a Trinity Alps tour, rode Baja last year and meet up on the infamous Sunday Morning Ride
once in a while. Here he is riding my DR a few months back. Still kicking and doing good for an old guy ... still has his old '93 R100GS Bumble Bee.
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Old 07-11-2013, 02:25 PM   #78589
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"The World's Oldest ..." sold off City Bike a few years back. It is still out there ... but all the good writers are gone now. Gabe is editor and is good, a funny guy. But he and his partner are there to make money (good luck with that on a FREE newspaper! ) ... so the "old" City Bike is truly gone.

The World's Oldest and I ride quite a bit. We just did a Trinity Alps tour, rode Baja last year and meet up on the infamous Sunday Morning Ride
once in a while. Here he is riding my DR a few months back. Still kicking and doing good for an old guy ... still has his old '93 R100GS Bumble Bee.
He doesn't look that old. How old is old?
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:04 PM   #78590
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Well the counter sprocket was a little more hooked then I thought after pulling it off.


So a little 10k mile freshen up was in order.
New counter sprocket
Cush hub rubbers (slid right in)


And new Cush hub bearing pressed in for good measure.


Ready to rock


New fork seals waiting in the wings.


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Old 07-11-2013, 03:20 PM   #78591
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Need some help. So I had the chain replaced. I noticed slop when I put it back together holding the rear of the tire and pulling back and forth. Checking rear wheel bearings everything seems smooth with no slop. Checking the cush hub bearing it feels rough and there is slop. Bearing has 22k on it now. The cush hub rubbers look a little worn (new before trip started). Napa in town has 2 bearings that match the skf part number and I'm getting both. Anything else I need to know? I've read about spacers and all that and I'm not too familiar with this part of the bike.
Freeze the bearing, heat the hub with a heat gun and press it in with a hydraulic press if you can. If not a socket and hammer will do just be careful to keep the bearing on an even keel going in.
There is an inner cush hub spacer and obviously 2 outboard ones as well.
Russ is right got my PC order here on east coast really quick.

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Old 07-11-2013, 03:44 PM   #78592
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Starting out and trying to learn riding tough off road on a DR650 is a mistake. It's a great bike but takes an experienced rider to make the TAT.
You could make it ... but it might not be all that much FUN! And having FUN is what it's all about.

Starting on a small, lightweight 250 will give you confidence straight away.
Confidence means FUN. Being able to relax and not DREAD the next tough section is a BIG PLUS ... and good reason to go with lighter trail capable bike. The Sherpa is OK, but IMO, there are BETTER choices.

I'm sure you've heard of the Yamaha WR250R and Kawasaki KLX250S.
Both out perform the heavier and poorly suspended Sherpa.

Used KLX's are priced reasonable, WR's are expensive but hold their value pretty well. In a year or so of trail riding on the 250 ... you may be ready to tackle the DR650. The DR is a GREAT road and travel bike. Could easily do the Cross Country portion on your trip (highway). The DR is also just fine on Two Track if not too rocky, muddy, or Steep. The TAT offers all those obstacles ... and it's why I vote NO on the DR for that ride as a Novice off road rider.

I've seen expert street riders with 30 years experience be totally, 100% put off dirt riding simply because they started off riding a BIG 650 Dual Sport. These guys just "assumed" a 650 was small! (compared to their R1200GS)

Many gave it up completely and have never come back to it. Why? Because they fell over, got hurt, we're afraid of the bike and were OUT OF CONTROL ... and had NO FUN.
If it's not FUN, why do it?
Experienced riders are used to being IN CONTROL .... and dirt riding, by it's nature, means you have to let go of all that and deal with everything being loose and disconnected and the bike moving around under you, a bit out of control. There is a learning curve which is more easily achieved on a small, light weight trail bike.
Thanks for the advice... this does put the noob dirt rider part of me in the right frame of mind.
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Old 07-11-2013, 03:48 PM   #78593
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Thanks for the advice... this does put the noob dirt rider part of me in the right frame of mind.
If ur not " feeling it" in Utah take the go around and avoid Eagle Canyon. I loved it but it is a very long sandy section with few options out.
Someone posted a video of him dropping his DR off a cliff. That was Eagle Canyon.


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Old 07-11-2013, 04:16 PM   #78594
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Freeze the bearing, heat the hub with a heat gun and press it in with a hydraulic press if you can. If not a socket and hammer will do just be careful to keep the bearing on an even keel going in.
There is an inner cush hub spacer and obviously 2 outboard ones as well.
Russ is right got my PC order here on east coast really quick.

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Thanks. As luck would have it there was a shop that pressed the bearing in for me (not carrying a press ). I hope he got the spacers right.. I know of two myself- the one that goes on the inside where the cush rubbers are (that slides into the bearing) and the one on the outside where the seal is. Putting it back together everything feels tight and solid. The bearing that came out was shot and had rusty watery grease coming out. The bearing from Napa is the same skf part number and its double sealed. I also picked up a second as a backup. I'm glad I caught it otherwise it could have took out my sprocket carrier right?

Cush hub rubbers are worn, and of course none here. Gonna order those and have them shipped along with a seal (one I'm using looks fine, but just to be thorough). While I'm at it, I might pick up some wheel bearings too as this has me a little rattled. Not sure I want to go pro cycle after reading about jammin jays fiasco with the all balls. I think my wheel bearings are fine (no rust, no slop, smooth) to make Whitehorse. Man, sand and mud and water crossings does a real number..
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Old 07-11-2013, 04:24 PM   #78595
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If ur not " feeling it" in Utah take the go around and avoid Eagle Canyon. I loved it but it is a very long sandy section with few options out.
Someone posted a video of him dropping his DR off a cliff. That was Eagle Canyon.


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Yikes! I think I saw it on youtube...
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:28 PM   #78596
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Is there supposed to be any play at all in the rear wheel that I can feel by grabbing the rear wheel and trying to move it (on a stand)? The front has no slop, but the rear has a touch. The sprocket no longer has any and is solid (cush bearing replaced) and overall the rear has way less. I have two new rear wheel bearings so with the cush bearing going I'm considering replacing them as well. I'm down in tok, so any advice asap is appreciated
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:37 PM   #78597
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Is there supposed to be any play at all in the rear wheel that I can feel by grabbing the rear wheel and trying to move it (on a stand)? The front has no slop, but the rear has a touch. The sprocket no longer has any and is solid (cush bearing replaced) and overall the rear has way less. I have two new rear wheel bearings so with the cush bearing going I'm considering replacing them as well. I'm down in tok, so any advice asap is appreciated
There should be no perceptible side to side play. Time to replace the bearings.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:38 PM   #78598
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Thanks for the advice... this does put the noob dirt rider part of me in the right frame of mind.
I bought my first off road bike three years ago, at 60 years old and after 40+ years of riding - a KLR 250.
I rode it in the mountains around Boulder, CO for a summer and within months my confidence had increased to the point where few trails slowed me down.
The 250 was light and responsive with all the torque and suspension I needed.
The DR feels a lot like the 250 in terms of manageability and I'm glad I took this route to gain off road skills.
Last week I was speeding across the desert on my DR, navigating deep sand and rocky outcrops, and laughing out loud in my helmet.
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Old 07-11-2013, 06:48 PM   #78599
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I bought my first off road bike three years ago, at 60 years old and after 40+ years of riding - a KLR 250.
I rode it in the mountains around Boulder, CO for a summer and within months my confidence had increased to the point where few trails slowed me down.
The 250 was light and responsive with all the torque and suspension I needed.
The DR feels a lot like the 250 in terms of manageability and I'm glad I took this route to gain off road skills.
Last week I was speeding across the desert on my DR, navigating deep sand and rocky outcrops, and laughing out loud in my helmet.
Hey MrBob,

My background is similar to yours. 35 years of riding all on street, just starting to discover the joy of riding off road. My next bike will definitely be a DR.
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Old 07-11-2013, 07:35 PM   #78600
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There should be no perceptible side to side play. Time to replace the bearings.
Thank you. Went ahead and replaced the rears. The one on the rotor side wasn't too hot, but the one on sprocket side was fine. All new double sealed bearings in the back. Front is fine, but watching. I should have used a bearing supplier before instead of putting OEM single sealed bearings in before I left. I guess its all the mud and water crossings and sand I've done
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