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Old 07-16-2013, 08:14 AM   #78751
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:22 AM   #78752
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Interesting oil analysis. How does it compare to what you were running for oil beforehand ( and what oil was that) ?

Did you have magnetic drain plugs in for both the oils ? Or if ever ?
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:45 AM   #78753
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Old 07-16-2013, 08:54 AM   #78754
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Interesting oil analysis. How does it compare to what you were running for oil beforehand ( and what oil was that) ?

Did you have magnetic drain plugs in for both the oils ? Or if ever ?

Mag drain plugs: Yes

That prior sample the "Stoners" are talking about was the Maxima Triple Ester. The Amsoil actually stayed in grade better then that according the UOA.
You can see the Amsoil is a high 40 weight still and has not sheared at all. And the TBN (Total Base Number) is very good still. This on a 1k mile sample mind you. I change my oil out at 1k mile intervals unless on long trips.
So Im a kook with motor oil ! My used bikes sell quick
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Old 07-16-2013, 09:42 AM   #78755
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When the magnet fell of the procycle plug (just glued on) I replaced it with the plug of a gsxr1000, the bandit 1250/650 plug will fit as well. And they all have magnets $5
off of what years ? as they have changed the plug sizes over the years?

ahh the great interchange... a 07 bandit gsf 650 7 $ up here in Canada
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Old 07-16-2013, 10:00 AM   #78756
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Anal ?
SO Anal.

I love it, respect.

I can't BE that, but I fucking admire the hell out of it. Impressive. Pilot, Impressive.
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:24 PM   #78757
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Maybe the rubber dampers?

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In a search of replacement for my sold away Wee DL650, I have recently tested 2 DRs. One, around 30000 kms on the clock, had no vibrations what so ever, but it had 14 teeth sprocket. Another one, 800 kms, and it vibed a lot, not shook, high frequency vibration at 3 gear around 75 km/h and up to 5 gear 130 km/h, mostly through the pegs, less through the bar.

Was the last a matter of the bike has not been broken in yet, a norm for the early mileage, or a malfunction?
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:42 PM   #78758
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Maybe the rubber dampers?
Too tight chain?
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Old 07-16-2013, 06:51 PM   #78759
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can i call 1st dibs on your DR?

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So Im a kook with motor oil ! My used bikes sell quick
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:23 PM   #78760
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Mag drain plugs: Yes

That prior sample the "Stoners" are talking about was the Maxima Triple Ester. The Amsoil actually stayed in grade better then that according the UOA.
You can see the Amsoil is a high 40 weight still and has not sheared at all. And the TBN (Total Base Number) is very good still. This on a 1k mile sample mind you. I change my oil out at 1k mile intervals unless on long trips.
So Im a kook with motor oil ! My used bikes sell quick
1K oil changes with high quality high zoot oil. + getting oil surveys done on used oil.
That would be every two rides for me as I tend to make long days out of rides. I wonder what the operating cost of all that oil comes out to per mile?
The oil makers make their oil to last 3K minimum and tell us to run it longer then that,most bike makers are saying 6K for oil changes.
And they BUILT the things.
Many DR 650's go 60 and 70,000 miles with very little special care,and still run fine.

But,if it makes you happy, by all means keep throwing out good oil every 1K.

Id buy your used bike.
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Old 07-16-2013, 07:40 PM   #78761
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Yes!

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Think hard on that. There is a great big hole in the market for a new 'outside the box' tank bag design. If they can be made to sell for the right price ProCycle could sell tons of these.
I want one and I want a saddle bag!
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:58 AM   #78762
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1K oil changes with high quality high zoot oil. + getting oil surveys done on used oil.
That would be every two rides for me as I tend to make long days out of rides. I wonder what the operating cost of all that oil comes out to per mile?
The oil makers make their oil to last 3K minimum and tell us to run it longer then that,most bike makers are saying 6K for oil changes.
And they BUILT the things.
Many DR 650's go 60 and 70,000 miles with very little special care,and still run fine.

But,if it makes you happy, by all means keep throwing out good oil every 1K.

Id buy your used bike.
Gee Whiz Uncle Foot Dragger, I'm fairly certain I titled the post:

"For those that are interested in this stuff"

This kind of stuff just blows my skirt up is all, and I actually pay for it too with money I earned.
But your welcome to my used oil anytime..............
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:39 AM   #78763
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Maybe we can get a federal grant for a "slightly used" oil pipeline?

Oil analysis in common in GA airplane maintenance. Certain metals appearing in large enough quantities cause panic in the owners' wallets. The discussion in the aviation community revolves around preventing premature component wear. The consensus is that disuse is the enemy. A plane engine sitting unused can develop corrosion on the cam and in the cylinders. When started, the corrosion grinds away on mating surfaces and accelerates wear. Prevention is simple...more use.

So ride, ride and ride some more. It's for the good of your engine.
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:48 AM   #78764
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Gee Whiz Uncle Foot Dragger, I'm fairly certain I titled the post:

"For those that are interested in this stuff"

This kind of stuff just blows my skirt up is all, and I actually pay for it too with money I earned.
But your welcome to my used oil anytime..............

I found it interesting, thanks for sharing. Nothing wrong with frequent oil changes. I also keep my oil pretty fresh, changing every 1,000 to 2,000 miles. Personally the cost seems minimal to me (considering other things I waste money on).

Heck on my XT225 I will change it after a few hundred miles if I have pounded it hard on a hot day.
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Old 07-17-2013, 05:55 AM   #78765
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Yea, they use UOA's on the tugs and pilot boats all the time too. They are cheap enough. I've seen many'a reports from Blackstone from nuts like me who get into that sorta thing and post them on a website, where the oil has sheared below grade in under 3k miles. Most common, and not surprisingly, in shared gear box motorcycles. Fact is, you have no idea what's coming out of that drain hole in regards to wear metals, silicates (air filter duty) and viscos. It may have been 10w40 going in but it's not uncommon for a low grade 30 weight that's coming out the other end after xxxx miles.
I'll be the 1st to admit, it's over the top, but I just have this quirk with crazy maintenance intervals

But like I mentioned earlier, when I sell a bike and I hand the prospective buyer a stack of UOA's on the bike and he see's my oil drain intervals, the bike is always sold on the spot. I would say I recoup the cost in the top dollar resale value.
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