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Old 07-17-2013, 07:34 AM   #78751
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Don't be introducing facts into a discussion about oil. We all know the best information is opinion and anecdote.
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:34 AM   #78752
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Just a quick thanks to Warp9 for quick shipping and great service on my new additions. Got the "no squeal" starter cap, lever set and an engine plug set.

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Old 07-17-2013, 07:39 AM   #78753
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:23 AM   #78754
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Gee Whiz Uncle Foot Dragger, I'm fairly certain I titled the post:

"For those that are interested in this stuff"

This kind of stuff just blows my skirt up is all, and I actually pay for it too with money I earned.
But your welcome to my used oil anytime..............
Consider all this country is going through to get oil,and it will get more extreme in the future.

As good Americans it's our duty to barely use it and toss it out,cost is irrelevant.

Just kidding, and you would be a natural KTM 500 owner.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:48 AM   #78755
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1K oil changes with high quality high zoot oil. + getting oil surveys ...

Id buy your used bike.
Hell, I'd buy his used oil!
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:48 AM   #78756
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Yea, they use UOA's on the tugs and pilot boats all the time too. They are cheap enough. I've seen many'a reports from Blackstone from nuts like me who get into that sorta thing and post them on a website, where the oil has sheared below grade in under 3k miles. Most common, and not surprisingly, in shared gear box motorcycles. Fact is, you have no idea what's coming out of that drain hole in regards to wear metals, silicates (air filter duty) and viscos. It may have been 10w40 going in but it's not uncommon for a low grade 30 weight that's coming out the other end after xxxx miles.
I'll be the 1st to admit, it's over the top, but I just have this quirk with crazy maintenance intervals

But like I mentioned earlier, when I sell a bike and I hand the prospective buyer a stack of UOA's on the bike and he see's my oil drain intervals, the bike is always sold on the spot. I would say I recoup the cost in the top dollar resale value.
Just curious about your intervals though. If your oil analysis is saying your oil is still good at 1000, why not run it to 1500? Blackstone usually recommend that anyway don't they? I thought that was the point of oil analysis.

I got a few samples checked with Blackstone years ago when I switched to Amsoil, mainly to see if I could go the Amsoil recommended twice the drain interval of the manufacturer. My oil tests on my Kawasaki Meanstreak (liquid cooled big twin) and BMW R1200RT (air/oil cooled twin)showed the oil to still be in spec well after the recommended drain interval. I didn't put enough miles on those bikes to double the drain interval with our short riding season in Canada but I was comfortable enough with the results to change the oil in the fall when the bikes get winterized and then just ride all spring/summer/fall.

I also hand the new owner of any of our bikes sold a detailed maintenance log and they all seem surprised and pleased as well. Most bikes just get ridden and put away with little regard for maintenance so I think buyers are surprised to find one that's actually been looked after.

I'd rather buy tires than oil. I've been known to replace a few tires before their time, but that's another discussion.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:19 AM   #78757
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yes, but I already know it will go further, I just have this mental problem.
I couldn't sleep at night.
You have to check "Are you interested in extending the drain interval" to get that comment. Amsoil definitely passes that test, not all do however. And it is bike dependent. MY F800GS chewed up oil (Amsoil) and sheared it down to a high to mid level 30 grade in 2k miles. Every engine plant is different in this regard.
I get Amsoil fairly cheap @ $8.50 a quart. I also have access to a 500 gal oil slop tank at the pier where all my used oil goes and is, presumably, recycled.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:21 AM   #78758
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I gotta ask--what about OW30 synth--how does that breakdown--shear, what's that mean.

I'm not being a wise ass--I have the gene.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:23 AM   #78759
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Hell, I'd buy his used oil!
Well if you are using this stuff, you are !


But I know your not Thump. . Just kidding.
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Old 07-17-2013, 09:38 AM   #78760
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I gotta ask--what about OW30 synth--how does that breakdown--shear, what's that mean.

I'm not being a wise ass--I have the gene.
Well typically Bill the further the spread the quicker and more vulnerable the oil is to shearing. The molecule chain as they call them are longer and break easier. Which is why you see a lot of 20w50 , 10w30/40 spreads in conventional oils. Syns are able to spread it more (5w50 for example) supposedly.
Shearing means the oil has been broken down into a lesser grade weight. Gear boxes do a good job of this.
Never sampled a 0/30


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Old 07-17-2013, 09:48 AM   #78761
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I've been using the 0W40 in everything since about 2007...there are no "fuel economy" additives in the Mobil if I understand it correctly....no issues.

The WR250R, at 15,000 of hard miles when I hydrolocked it was tired, but clean as a whistle.

Oh...and 45,000 on the DL, 25,000 miles on the GS500--no issues with that oil...again--not really more than anecdotal evidence--but at least we know it doesn't cause a failure? Hmmmm...
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:05 AM   #78762
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No. I'm sure anything anyone uses is fine. The level I take it too is strictly for the bored and or anal. Lol


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Old 07-17-2013, 10:07 AM   #78763
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THere's something to it--we used to send oil samples out on our diesel 12cyl M60 tank engines regularly--it's a huge predictor--for instance, that 3rd gear issue these can have--any of that possible to foresee?
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:11 AM   #78764
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THere's something to it--we used to send oil samples out on our diesel 12cyl M60 tank engines regularly--it's a huge predictor--for instance, that 3rd gear issue these can have--any of that possible to foresee?
Well ill keep and eye on the iron levels I have thought of that.


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Old 07-17-2013, 10:16 AM   #78765
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all this oil talk is makin' me itchy.

I hate oil changes. Messy. Always end up with some on me and some on the garage floor.

The price of motorcycle oils makes me sick. almost as bad as when I go to the grocery store and see the price of food!
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