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Old 07-17-2013, 04:41 PM   #78811
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Sargeant vs Seat Concepts kit.

I need a comparison. Both in how the long term feel is and their shape / construction. How they effect seat width and height between the two would be great.
I have no comparison to make.

My purchase (today, in fact) of my first Sargeant saddle was determined by them creating a whole new seat pan from which to build off of. Sounds like a reasonable idea to me.
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Old 07-17-2013, 04:44 PM   #78812
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Water in fuel can cause a sudden cutting out. It really can mimic an electrical problem. And sometimes if takes full throttle (and enough vacuum) to suck the water up from deep in the Carb Bowl. (water sinks in gasoline)

Draining Carb bowl or tank worth a shot ... can't hurt!
Did that to no avail, but thanks. There was some remains of an IMS gas cap in there which I removed and replaced but it still had the miss. May be that pesky sidestand but it sure would seem that it would be an issue in rougher terrain
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Old 07-17-2013, 06:56 PM   #78813
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Passive, cheap modifications

For example:
  • Magnetic oil plug
  • Fuel cap, fuel filter bag
  • Lucas fuel treatment (not as passive, but quite helpful)

Can anyone think of more?
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Old 07-17-2013, 07:28 PM   #78814
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Thanks for all of the replies. I have checked the fuel tank cap and vents, no clogs there. It has an IMS tank. The petcock came with the tank. It's a basic three position one; off, on and reserve. The stock vacuum operated one was removed.

I've had the carb apart so many times, the float bowl is clean. I also replaced the float assembly not long ago. I took the bike to a local shop and they put a rebuild kit in the carb (needle, emulsion tube, o-rings, etc...) None of that helped either.

I fiddled with the side stand this evening and don't think that is it, but I will try a bungee cord on it next time I ride it.

I'll look into more of the electrical side as well. I had to replace the stator at the end of '11 because it lost spark completely. Fortunately, I am an EE so if it is electrical, I can probably track that down.
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Old 07-17-2013, 08:34 PM   #78815
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Here's how you bypass the sidestand switch:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...nHPE6RokJqOt_g
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:09 PM   #78816
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Here's how you bypass the sidestand switch:

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...nHPE6RokJqOt_g
That's a good video explanation and belongs in Krusty's Index.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...=636395&page=5
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:45 PM   #78817
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I have to give a big thanks to everyone who said to check the side stand switch.

I jumpered it out this evening and took the bike for a test ride. It ran great! No stumbles at all.

The way it was acting, I don't think I would have guessed that would have been the problem.

Once again, Thank you everyone!
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Old 07-17-2013, 10:57 PM   #78818
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Old 07-17-2013, 11:13 PM   #78819
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The way it was acting, I don't think I would have guessed that would have been the problem.
Yep, it's decieving but your symptoms were exactly what we see when the switch is just starting to fail.
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:07 AM   #78820
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Yep, it's decieving but your symptoms were exactly what we see when the switch is just starting to fail.
Uh, it's not the switch that failed in my case; it's the sidestand springs which were weak. $6 for a new set, and all is well now.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:35 AM   #78821
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Sargents is very comfortable. But I prefer the Seat Concept seat I have now. I like a little narrow seat profile and I like the texture of the SC seat better. Just my .02.

How was the firmness between the two ? How did they compare at say a 200 mile point if you just stayed seated and rode slab a long ways ?

Im trying to see a comparison between them for when you just sit and log miles.....not mega miles, but for those days you have to grind out alot of smooth road miles just sitting.

I allready am in the habit of standing for no reason and constantly change my body position on all the bad seats.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:42 AM   #78822
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For example:
  • Magnetic oil plug
  • Fuel cap, fuel filter bag
  • Lucas fuel treatment (not as passive, but quite helpful)

Can anyone think of more?

Remove upper chain roller assembly and plug hole with RTV silicone.

Secure Neutral Safety Switch screws with blue locktight or safety wire.

Check torque on primary drive crank nut while doing neutral switch.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:01 AM   #78823
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I've been well-pleased with Sargent seats in the past. But these days, the Seat Concepts kit is hard to beat. Ask for their firm foam, standard height. Install it but don't staple the cover and run it through some test rides. Use a belt sander to shave away anything you don't like.

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Old 07-18-2013, 05:09 AM   #78824
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How was the firmness between the two ? How did they compare at say a 200 mile point if you just stayed seated and rode slab a long ways ?

Im trying to see a comparison between them for when you just sit and log miles.....not mega miles, but for those days you have to grind out alot of smooth road miles just sitting.

I allready am in the habit of standing for no reason and constantly change my body position on all the bad seats.
If you are only going to slab and money is not an issue. Get the Sargents. It won the comfort award from me. The SC seat works for me as it is a better dual sport seat in my opinion. When standing I prefer a narrower seat.
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:26 AM   #78825
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Not going to be slab only. More like a true 50 / 50.

So what options are available in both the seat concepts and the Sergeant both foam wise and covers ?

Narrow up front by the tank is nice, but midway back is most important for long highway stretches comfortwise.
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