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Old 07-18-2013, 10:22 AM   #78811
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Well, after intensive research on what bike to purchase, I got my DR650SE. I had to save up for this bad boy. :) I'm quite proud.
As you should be. Good platform to start with, learn on and make your own if you choose. Congrats.
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:22 AM   #78812
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How was the firmness between the two ? How did they compare at say a 200 mile point if you just stayed seated and rode slab a long ways ?

Im trying to see a comparison between them for when you just sit and log miles.....not mega miles, but for those days you have to grind out alot of smooth road miles just sitting.

I allready am in the habit of standing for no reason and constantly change my body position on all the bad seats.
I've not ridden on either seat ... seems both get good reviews. But how many guys here really do super long days? Not many. I can tell you from experience on the DR and many other bikes ... that one key element that adds miles with a seat is WIDTH. A wider seat is more comfortable over a long day. I've seen pics and it looks like the Sargent is a bit wider than the Seat Concepts.

Quality of foam is also critical. Some don't like a firm seat ... but on a long day that firmness is not a bad thing. Also, density seems to make a difference. Some critic Corbin for being too heavy. Yes, it's a heavy seat but that density helps reduce vibes to the rider. Less fatigue on a long day.

My leather covered Corbin is quite firm and works well on 400 mile days. The downside is that the Corbin is a bit too wide up at the front ... and that can bother some riders when standing, riding off road. I've adapted to it ... but I admit, it's not ideal when standing.

Wide is GOOD!
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Old 07-18-2013, 10:32 AM   #78813
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It's only that if you haven't already spent hours trying the more complicated theories.

When you find a simple solution after spending hours troubleshooting and replacing good parts, then it's a head banger. Ask me how I know.
Yep, been there! The worst is when a shop gets hold of you and charges you for all their guessing and screwing around ... at $70 to $80 an hour.

Another big plus for the DIY friendly DR650. Imagine what would happen if you had a new BMW R1200GS (water cooled), or a new Ducati Multistrada. A true nightmare for diagnosis ... which even stumps the experts at the dealers.
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:03 PM   #78814
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As you should be. Good platform to start with, learn on and make your own if you choose. Congrats.

And you got one of the really rare, super fast white ones! Killer!
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Old 07-18-2013, 12:43 PM   #78815
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I agree...never ask someone to pick your seat.

My Seat Concepts kit is on the way. I hope I like it. If I don't, I'll sell it and move on to another.

I am fully aware of this having played the musical seat game on several touring bikes.

Trying to avoid a avoidable mistake right off the bat. I know what I want mostly, but without being able to hold them in my hands side by side its a expensive crap shoot.

Just trying to get the right one first. I know I dont want a "grippy" cover....smooth so you can slide around a bit is what I want.

Now I wonder if the "Regular" foam from seat concepts is softer than the stock OEM Suzuki foam ? Is Seat concepts "Firm" foam similar to stock Suzuki ?

Lastly what are sergents foams and how do they compare ?
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:06 PM   #78816
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As mentioned, seats are almost as personal as, well, what's sitting on them. I have the SC standard foam and it is softer than the stocker. Best description for me is it sinks in but firms up enough to be supportive. The guys at SC will answer questions for you too and guide you to the right foam.

Sorry for the angle, but here's the stock next to SC. The stock is about 7 inches wide at it's widest and crowned a bit. The SC is 10" and flat. I scoot back onto that portion for a break while on the slab.



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Old 07-18-2013, 01:13 PM   #78817
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Here is a cheap DR for sale, only 94,000 miles, I confirmed

http://santafe.craigslist.org/mcy/3942139276.html
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Old 07-18-2013, 01:28 PM   #78818
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Seat Concepts 1" Taller version. vs. stock
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Old 07-18-2013, 03:17 PM   #78819
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Well, after intensive research on what bike to purchase, I got my DR650SE. I love it, it's great. Just took it for a ride, first time on a motorcycle actually, lol. Let me know what you guys think.

Ignore my fathers work car, lol. And no, he did not buy it for me. I had to save up for this bad boy. :) I'm quite proud.
Congrats. Add a couple extra lights, a whip antenna and that could be a cop bike. People would be parting the way for you.

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Old 07-18-2013, 03:25 PM   #78820
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FCR Question

Picked up this other FCR carb to use on another DR (previous owner of the carb said he was using it on his DR650). Got it for cheap but is this just the standard FCR (Non-MX) version? He said it was originally on a KTM 525 SX


Going over it, it appears to have the Sudco DR boot adaptor and a R&D Accelerator Pump.. Don't think it has the ACV?





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Old 07-18-2013, 04:19 PM   #78821
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I have a Seat Concept on my DR 650, my Son has a Sargent on his. Both are good, I do like mine more. My Son's has the "welt" at the seam, I can feel that and don't care for it. I understand Sargent has them with and without that "welt."
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:29 PM   #78822
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I have a Seat Concept on my DR 650, my Son has a Sargent on his. Both are good, I do like mine more. My Son's has the "welt" at the seam, I can feel that and don't care for it. I understand Sargent has them with and without that "welt."
yes you can order a Sargent with a "top-stich" ie no welt and that is the only way to go. you feel welts at times and i would never order any seat with any bikes with a welt.
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:36 PM   #78823
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Epix, did ya check with MxRob?
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Old 07-18-2013, 04:42 PM   #78824
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yes you can order a Sargent with a "top-stich" ie no welt and that is the only way to go. you feel welts at times and i would never order any seat with any bikes with a welt.
NOW you guys post this... one day after me ordering my first Sargeant, and with specific colored 'piping' (or welt).

Is it really that noticeable?!
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Old 07-18-2013, 05:03 PM   #78825
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On the left hand threaded primary drive nut, whats a good "holder tool" of sorts when torqueing the nut if you dont have a official primary holder tool.

I understand the clutch will slip before you reach torque when trying to lock the rear wheel.

I just dont wanna bugger up the primary gears by wedgeing any old thing in there.
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