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Old 05-16-2006, 08:04 PM   #1
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Which 950 to get? Seeking advice

Okay, I've finally decided I have to have a 950 this summer. I've been pretty close to doing the deal before but have not pulled the trigger.

My main ride is an 03 R1150GS Adventure which I plan on keeping and riding it for many years to come. The KTM will be it's stable mate.

Lately, there have been a bunch of 950's for sale in the Flea Market, and some local to me in Colorado as well.

I am currently considering the following:

In the running are:

#1 2004 Non-S. Fully Loaded. 2500 Miles. Color: Black. Has the normal
extras that most folks put on (CF Guards, metal guards, tank bag). also has the Gobi tail box and a low-Gel seat in addition to the stocker. Has a Remus stainless exhaust. But no warranty and too late to buy an extended warranty. Had 600 mile service done but no TSB's have been done. Bike was purchased in 8/04. Asking Price: $10,500. This is a local bike for sale by a friend.

#2 2004.5 S Model. Color: Blue with GO Graphics. Located in Colorado Springs. (In the flea market here right now) 9239 Miles. Has Gobis, all TSB's completed, just serviced, one owner, and extended warranty till 5/08. Asking Price: $11,000 or best offer. Link: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138534 I am 6' tall with a 34" inseam and won't know until tomorrow when I'm scheduled to see the bike (and sit on it) if I will be able to reach the ground or not.

#3 2005.5 non-S. Color: Orange. Low miles: 5200 miles. Fully loaded with Gobi's and Gobi tail box, after market cans, Renazzo seat, yaddie yaddie. Asking Price: $10,500. Location: California, so have to budget $500-600 to fly to CAand ride it home. And, it's likely to be sold to a local before I can get it anyway. For sale in flea market. Likely selling price: $10.5K. Link: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=138439

#4. Last Option: New 2006 from a Colorado dealer. Miles: 0. Color: Orange. Brand new bike for $12,300 + Tax (making it $13,200 OTD). This includes the
Gobi bags, all TSB's, and a 1 year warranty that I can extend for 2 or 3 more years at the end. I would have to spend $750-1000 to add the CF guards, engine guards, tank bag, and a Renazzo seat. I can live w/o an aftermarket exhaust for the time being but would likely add a Wings or Akro later. So, $14,000 or so to do a brand new one.

#5. Wait till next spring and get a 990 FI bike. I like FI, but not sure I can wait.

I rode an 05 today but it had 28K miles on it and wasn't in the best of shape. They wanted $9K for the bike and I just felt a bike with that many miles may not be worth it.

So, I am looking for advice. What's the better deal?

- The 04 is a great deal if I can get it for $10K with all of the extras and the low miles. But no warranty and I'm sure it will need a bunch of TSB's done. Let's call this the $10K option.

- The 04 S with the GO graphics look stellar. It has < 10K miles and looks to be perfect. Just need to add a tank bag and I'm set. Not sure what the final price would be. Let's call this option $11K.

- A brand new 06. New, no miles, I can do all of the work myself. No TSB's. Full warranty that I can extend. Let's call this option $14K.

What say you?

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Old 05-16-2006, 08:11 PM   #2
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I don't know about the bike selection.... BUT your avatar needs more ORANGE in it for posting on the crush..... You are already as good as converted!


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Old 05-16-2006, 08:29 PM   #3
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Duh -> Forgot the Sales tax on the used bikes.

Now that I think about it more, I'm going to have to pay some sales taxes on ANY used bike I register here in Colorado. I may be able to (ahem) put a lower price on the title for the price paid than I actually paid, but I'm still going to have to pay taxes of at least $7-9K on any used bike like these. The MVA will snag me if I say I paid only like $5K for either bike.

So, I should add about $592 to the price of either of the used bikes to cover the 7.4% sales tax in colorado. This would be if I reported them as purchased for, say, $8000. If reported at $10K the tax would be $740.

When you register a bike, you have to pay the sales tax if you haven't already done so at the dealer.

This would make the

#1 Option: $10,000 (guessing on final negotiated price) + $592 = $10.6K.

#2 Option: $11,000 (not sure of final price) + $740 tax = $11.75K

#4 Option $12,300 + $910.20 = #13.210.20

To me, makes option #4 look even better.

The prices of the add on items appears to be as follows with a 10% discount. I think my salesman/dealer will give me 15% for the first 30 days.

- Tank Bag: $108
- CF Tank Guards: $196.27
- Metal crash guards: $283.15

Total: $601.xx + tax for the upgrades I need right up front. Plus 1st service in a week or so. Hmmmm. Love the Akros but the price is sky high. May go with Wings or Staintune.

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Old 05-16-2006, 08:38 PM   #4
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you're 6' tall and worried about the S ?
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:49 PM   #5
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you're 6' tall and worried about the S ?
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I rode a 05 non-S today and I was on tip-toes in my riding boots. My understanding is that the 04 S was very tall. Why does my question rate your response? I said I have not yet sat on it.

My GS Adventure is pretty tall but I can deal with it.

Just asking for advice here....

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Old 05-16-2006, 08:50 PM   #6
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Option #4, no decision necessary. Brand new, full warrantee, the knowledge that no one else has f%#k'd it up for <$3K; thats cheap peace of mind and a no brainer to me. Plus, Orange is best!

Good luck, it's a great bike in any choice!
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Old 05-16-2006, 08:59 PM   #7
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Option #4, no decision necessary. Brand new, full warrantee, the knowledge that no one else has f%#k'd it up for <$3K; thats cheap peace of mind and a no brainer to me. Plus, Orange is best!

Good luck, it's a great bike in any choice!
Mike: Thanks for the input. I can get the new 06 in Black as well for the same price. I like black as well. Someone told me the black bikes are faster than the orange....

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Hmmmm....sounds familiar!

Somebody else in the same predicament as myself. Very interesting read.

I too have been quoted a similar price for a new 06' 'S' and am unsure what to do. Seems to me like they hold their money so well, it's worth getting a new one!! Also, if you buy a new one from that dealer, they will more than likely knock you 25% off all the extras you buy at the same time which makes it even more atractive to me!

$15K for a new 06' 'S' with Akras, CF guards, top box, KTM guards, bar risers and TT&L......Hmmmmmmmm

What we gonna do?!?!?
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Old 05-16-2006, 09:44 PM   #9
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I don't think the gs is going to see much more daylight just quietly...
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Old 05-16-2006, 10:22 PM   #10
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Option #4, no decision necessary. Brand new, full warrantee, the knowledge that no one else has f%#k'd it up for <$3K; thats cheap peace of mind and a no brainer to me. Plus, Orange is best!

Good luck, it's a great bike in any choice!
Agreed...Something sweet about breaking in your own 950, your own way. Oh wait, the "orange is best" part, I don't agree with that.
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Option #3 is sold as of this evening. Boy, that was a nice deal. And it was Orange......
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:04 AM   #13
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Old 05-17-2006, 05:27 AM   #14
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I've got a 950S '04 and get both feet down no problem with my 32" inseem. The bike is so balanced compared to a GS1150 (my previous) that one foot is all you ever need at stops anyway.
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???

I rode a 05 non-S today and I was on tip-toes in my riding boots. My understanding is that the 04 S was very tall. Why does my question rate your response? I said I have not yet sat on it.

My GS Adventure is pretty tall but I can deal with it.

Just asking for advice here....

T.

My point is, if i can do it (04 S) anyone can, 5'10" (31" inseam) here.

You'll be damn glad to have the S when you get offroad. Remember, the 950 is alot lighter than the GS.
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