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Old 03-11-2009, 09:29 PM   #61
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Tent or Swag

It depends where u are riding I reckon East coast QLD coast And Tropics use a tent as the chance of rain is pretty high. For over the great divide in winter and dessert trips not much chance of rain swags are much quicker to setup and i reckon warmer.

I was sick of mostly packing up the tent on a long trip as i had a bad system, Tent in its own bag, matt in its stuff sack and sleeping bag, so packing up in the morning sucked and seemed to take ages stuffing them into 3 seperate bags.
In hindsight I should have got a bigger bag for the tent so i could leave matt and sleep bag in the one.

With the swag the only thing hard to put somewhere when raining is the MX boots got to put them in the vestibule bit and may get wet, everything else can go back in Andy panniers wich have waterproof liners, I have ridden in heavy rain for 2 days with them and not wet bits.
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Old 03-11-2009, 10:06 PM   #62
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Gidday, I was in anaconda today and as usual they have a sale on.

They had 40% off denali tents again, there is a hiking/lightweight model (zephyr 1) that ends up being about $100, it is the same shape as a swag, but about 2.7m long and a metre or so wide and high at the front. they also have a zephyr 2 which is a bit bigger.

i actually bought one to use for the NSW xmas trip, but ended up staying with rigs in his room, so it is still new in the bag.

just me 2 cents.
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Old 03-12-2009, 01:51 AM   #63
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Just purchased a canvas swag 700mm wide with flaps that zip all way round,sliped in a self inflating matress and also my -5deg sleeping bag.
Swag and matress only cost $180Aud from a local camping store on the North Coast. Seems to me like a good set up!!!!
Whole lot rolled up in a water proof bag is only 700mm wide by about 250mm to 300mm thick. (depends how much effort i put into rolling it nice and tight)I reakon the lot on the bike is just the right size only weighs 6kg.
I also have a two man tent that can fit in my throw over soft panniers.
Hope this will help.

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Old 03-12-2009, 02:37 AM   #64
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Swags V's Tents

G'day all ,

A recurring theme in this thread seems to be that with a swag you cant keep your gear dry when it rains , WELL with a bit of a think , it becomes a no brainer .

Anyone that was at the Moonan Flat pissup and was still there in the morning would have seen my set up . I have a swag , with a self inflating 7.5 cm thick mattress and sleeping bag all rolled up in the swag and a poly tarp , with tent poles and pegs and ropes to act as a fly all rolled into one sort of compact package.
At Moonan it rained most of the morning and none of my gear got wet , as my tarp covered my bike , my swag and all of my gear , the tarp is a 12 ' x 12' and the poles are just the old four piece tent pole which once pulled down all rolls into the swag for carrying to the next camp site. pic below shows it all rolled up on the bike. small bag on top carried my pub clothes.

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Old 03-12-2009, 03:00 AM   #65
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I'm not a big fan of tents, always preferd a swag.

I picked up this Campout Biker swag in Alice after my old one fell to bits on the Tanami. It came with a 25mm foam matress and the bottom side is PVC ? coated canvas, I ditched the foam and use a old style inflatable instead.

Its the most comfy compact sleaping kit I've ever used.

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Old 03-12-2009, 03:03 AM   #66
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Posted in this thread many moons ago ... but here are a couple of pics of my set up.

Swag on bike (the sexy blue'n'orange one)...

Tent set up on the left ...

The swag rolled up contains the tent/poles/pegs (1.7 kgs), silk liner, -5 sleeping bag, 3/4 thermorest, off the bike clothes, and wet weather gear if weather is fine.

From personal experience, just throwing the swag out is very handy when you get kicked out of your camping ground in the middle of the night, and have to relocate! ...

ps.thanks Scott & Middy for the pics


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Old 03-14-2009, 03:47 AM   #67
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Originally Posted by Passion_Fingers
am looking at getting a single swag to use on the bike and in the forby, i have currently got a mammoth double thing thats nearly as big as me (and i a bit on the large side ) was poking round on the net and found thease any ideas for or against? was going to get the single one with the mozzie net and put a self inflating materess in it. would mainly be used for shorter trips and overnighters. its either this or mouses idea . also WHEN WILL THEY MAKE A SLEEPING BAG FOR THE BIG FELLA! if i get them zipped up i have trouble unzipping them
I've got a caribee(sp) -10degC jumbo and it's huge (just like me ).So warm that even camping in the snow i still have it unzipped and use it as a blanket.But that could be because I have extra insulation.

As Al (Oldfatbeerman) says with planning a swag is as good as a tent and easier.

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Old 08-31-2012, 02:09 AM   #68
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I dug up this old thread rather than start a newy. I am tetering on buying an OZtrail bike swag. Wondering if anyone has bought one and didnt like it

it seems that they have changed thier design from the one pictured in sidetrack one's post

to this ....

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Old 08-31-2012, 03:24 AM   #69
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Have the new one and it works great. Ditch the mattress and use a thermorest of some type, rolls up half the size.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:19 AM   #70
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i just got back about 4 hours ago from a 4 day, 2000K trip using the new oztrail biker swag.
it worked fine.
it's the first time i've used a swag and the first night was a little claustrophobic, after that all good.
the mattress supplied was ok, but not great. i'll probably get and use a therma rest to fit.
it rained at yetman last night (just briefly) and everything stayed dry so, yeah, result.
takes a couple of minutes to set up. it's easiest to get into through the top or you look like an idiot crawling in through the end. when you get up in the morning you'll want to take a minute to straighten everything up before you close it up again so it all rolls up right.
i bought a $5 tarp that goes over the bike with everything under it and my boots were sat under the stand side where the tarp covered them so everything was good.
can't compare them to any others as i haven't used any others but it seems good to me.
cost me $160 including shipping from snowys in melbourne.
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Old 08-31-2012, 04:54 AM   #71
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I've had mine for 3 or 4 years now. It's done at least two Perth to east coast trips and numerous others in WA.

Warmer than a tent. Quicker to put up.

I pack a 3/4 light Therma Rest in it, plus a -0.5 C down bag, silk liner and a full size, real pillow.
Even with the pillow I reckon it's not too big.

I love it.

Another useful feature of swags. If staying on the floor in someones house you can just throw it down and it's all there.

I always carry a tarp as well for rainy nights and a couple of home made doweling poles, light as a feather and I usually roll the poles into the swag.

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Old 08-31-2012, 05:00 AM   #72
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Old 08-31-2012, 05:07 AM   #73
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I also have an oz trail biker swag.
I use an xped mattress and sleeping bag wihich just roll up in the swag.
I also use a tarp and some rope to tie off to the bike and or trees.
I stuff the whole lot into a 100lt water proof duffle bag. Never had a wet bed yet.
Takes very little time to set and pack up.
I much prefer travelling this way. compared to a tent.
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Old 08-31-2012, 06:35 AM   #74
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I can't fit in mine anymore
Did it shrink or you grow?

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Old 08-31-2012, 03:09 PM   #75
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This is my swag, it's a canvas polly mix tarp.

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