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Old 07-30-2013, 01:02 PM   #17866
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Quick question - am I right in saying the 270 degree Scrambler engine has significantly more torque than the T100.

I ask because I took my Thunderbird in for a service yesterday. Had test rides on a 800XC and 1050 Sport while I was there then took a T100 loaner home.

The little Bonne blew me away with its general 'throwaboutability' and surprising amount of torque - I enjoyed it much more than the 2 Tigers.

I've been following this thread since the beginning and I'm now thinking a Scrambler could be an ideal mate for the 'bird.

So spill - is it more torquey than the T100? If so, I think I'm sold.
Same torque, Scrambler is just at a lower RPM.

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Old 07-30-2013, 03:22 PM   #17867
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that is one sweet ride! How did the pipes take the stones? When I ran the low pipes on the Scram they took a decent beating but it was kind of neat having the low pipes. I still have them and swap now and then depending on my mood.
The pipes do get a bit of sand blasting but not too bad. There's no chrome on them anyway as it got polished off removing the blueing a few years ago, just stainless left so most of the marks can be polished off if need be.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:09 PM   #17868
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Same torque, Scrambler is just at a lower RPM.
On the dyno a stock 270 motor will go a ft lb or so more at the rear wheel than a 360 Bonnie, SAE correction, all other things equal.
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:21 PM   #17869
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Anyone put a sidecar on the scrambler??
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Old 07-30-2013, 04:22 PM   #17870
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They look like these from NewBonneville.com , no?

http://www.newbonneville.com/html/ls...shed_cups.html

Pretty pricey, but they look nice. No wonder people find other cups to serve the same purpose.
Correct, but a cheaper to buy in the UK.
I did look at making my own but got fed up with looking for cups that may fit and me bodging them on. The LSL cups fit perfectly and look quite beautiful, that's if you like shiney stuff.
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Old 07-30-2013, 05:04 PM   #17871
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Anyone put a sidecar on the scrambler??
Ayup.

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:14 PM   #17872
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Same torque, Scrambler is just at a lower RPM.

http://www.fredericktownyamaha.com/n...&go=Go#compare
Thanks for that. Very interesting.
Think I'm sold on it
Now got to decide whether or not to sell my AT
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Old 07-30-2013, 10:58 PM   #17873
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Anyone put a sidecar on the scrambler??
You have this one from page 158. So it myself on the Tridays show, cool bike.



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Old 07-31-2013, 11:08 AM   #17874
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A gadget

A small starting issue in winter and new R/R convinced me that I need voltmeter. And that´s what I did for €7

(well, it´s the digital gadget ... not to be mistaken )

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Old 07-31-2013, 11:18 AM   #17875
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yes CTscrambler. You are correct. You can order the min cone slip ons from BC and just unbolt the stock cans. Is your bike Carbed or EFI? You may need to re jet if carbed or re map if EFI. The weight reduction is significant. They are louder than stock cans but I don't belive any louder than the TOR's.
My bike is a 2010 (fuel injected). I'll start looking for the mini cones on ebay and craigslist and for a sound thread on youtube! Otherwise if $ was no issue I'd go with those Italian massmoto pipes.
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:20 AM   #17876
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Quick question - am I right in saying the 270 degree Scrambler engine has significantly more torque than the T100.

I ask because I took my Thunderbird in for a service yesterday. Had test rides on a 800XC and 1050 Sport while I was there then took a T100 loaner home.

The little Bonne blew me away with its general 'throwaboutability' and surprising amount of torque - I enjoyed it much more than the 2 Tigers.

I've been following this thread since the beginning and I'm now thinking a Scrambler could be an ideal mate for the 'bird.

So spill - is it more torquey than the T100? If so, I think I'm sold.
I'm not sure if this is the right thread for this question but here goes.

I "think" I'd like a 270 engine with Thruxton clothes, or possibly an easily convertible hybrid. I really prefer the cadence of the 270 crank over the 360. I'm thinking it's easier to start with a Scrambler and build towards a Thruxton than converting a Thruxton to a 270 crank motor.

I kinda like the 19" front wheel so I'm good with that. I'd go with low pipes for sure, either 2 into 2 or 2 into 1, not sure. I don't care for the high pipes at all, plus they hit your right leg big time.

Does anybody make cams that kick the 270 performance up a notch? Or is that practical given EFI programming issues?

I've ridden a Thruxton but not a Scramber yet, it's on the to do list. I like all of the Bonnie variants and am a bit torn as which way to go. I've got plenty of "dirty" bikes but nothing vintage/cafe/standard style and these bikes really appeal to me. I was very impressed with the Thruxton when I rode it. I'm thinking I can build sort of a hybrid that could meld between looks with a change in seats etc.

Does this make any sense and are there some existing threads that run in this direction, here or elsewhere?
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Old 07-31-2013, 11:23 AM   #17877
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Laugh seat pad?

[QUOTE=optical;21982477]Any thing done to the front forks? Fork Oil Mod, damper, etc?

And bike porn:




Finally got to go for a nice long ride the other day, about 3 hours on the seat straight. I wouln't expect too many seats to be comfortable after that amount of time, especially stock ones, but this one was getting particularly uncomfortable.

I see this bike above (Opticals') has a seat pad on it. Anyone have any specifics on good seat pads that will stay put or strap on? Don't have the $ for a fancy Corbin or custom seat.

Also, is the Triumph solo seat any more comfortable or just a mini version of the larger one?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-31-2013, 12:32 PM   #17878
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Also, is the Triumph solo seat any more comfortable or just a mini version of the larger one?

Thanks in advance.
I think the solo seat with luggage rack is slightly more comfortable than a stock two-up seat, however it hurts me after a few hours. I'd try some size of AirHawk before shelling out for another Triumph seat - in my opinion none of the seats from Triumph are that much better - maybe excepting the king/queen, but it is butt ugly. I run a Burton on my T100 and while it is better than a stock seat, it isn't day & night better - but it does look better. Seat like a lot of things with bikes are very subjective - YRMV.
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Old 07-31-2013, 03:55 PM   #17879
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OK, so my cable is on the way...who has got a hot tuneecu map? Switching to pods next week...
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Old 07-31-2013, 05:59 PM   #17880
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I think the solo seat with luggage rack is slightly more comfortable than a stock two-up seat, however it hurts me after a few hours. I'd try some size of AirHawk before shelling out for another Triumph seat - in my opinion none of the seats from Triumph are that much better - maybe excepting the king/queen, but it is butt ugly. I run a Burton on my T100 and while it is better than a stock seat, it isn't day & night better - but it does look better. Seat like a lot of things with bikes are very subjective - YRMV.
+1 on the Airhawk. I have the small cruiser size and it works well on my single seat. great for mutli-day rides.
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