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Old 07-16-2008, 10:41 AM   #2086
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I have a question similar to Nick Makwell's. When you guys say the Scrambler is good for dirt ROADS, do you mean the dirt roads are survivable if you keep the speeds way down ala any street bike, or can you actually travel on reasonably maintained hard packed dirt/gravel roads at say 40 to 50MPH?
Try as I may, I don't seem to be able to shake the Scrambler off my short list, but I want something I can use to travel point to point on the Forest Service roads in my area. Even my commute is 3 miles a day of dirt road that's doable by Elantra.
I keep telling myself the "intelligent" thing to do is get a DR650. Then I see a picture of a Scrambler...
Or get both. See my sig line...

I haven't done a lot of gravel on the Scrambler but I'd say it's fine on smoother gravel, roads, ie not wash board. Although washboard isn't much fun on the DR either.

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Old 07-16-2008, 11:30 AM   #2087
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They are actually pretty good on metal roads. 40 / 50mph is no problem , the scram just kind of lopes along at those speeds, way better than your average road bike but the suspension is the weak point. I regularly ride with a mate on a KLR 650 & keep up fine on metal although he is getting a more comfortable ride , the scram goes better on tarseal than the KLR so it all sort of balances out
The DR is probably the sensible bike but the scrams sure are fun , just watch out for all the old farts who want to reminisce
Having breakfast in a cafe in small town rural NZ I got button holed by Nana. She regaled me with stories of all the bikes she & her late husband had owned [ She rode as well ] all the places they had been & things they had done , she knew her stuff & it was a very pleasurable 1/2 hour , that won't happen with the DR , just get used to it if you get a scram.
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:56 PM   #2088
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TKC80s Get the Job Done!

I had a set of Continental TKC80s installed on my 2004 "Scramblerized Bonnie" and I am delighted to report that they work GREAT! I just wish I had ponied up for them earlier!

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Old 07-16-2008, 01:57 PM   #2089
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I had a set of Continental TKC80s installed on my 2004 "Scramblerized Bonnie" and I am delighted to report that they work GREAT! I just wish I had ponied up for them earlier!

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Old 07-16-2008, 02:50 PM   #2090
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No worries about seeping oil

Yeah, I guess I got the short straw on Scramblers, but I'm not worried.
A little oil (x3) hasn't put me off on the Scrambler.

That's why I bought a blacked out engine

As for the broken foot peg replacement? Someone suggested that the "new" OEM ones would be forged instead of cast but that's not the case with a set that arrived today. Back they go from whence they came.

I'm going to try a set of pegs from Touratech. Any other suggestions?
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:26 PM   #2091
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I have a question similar to Nick Makwell's. When you guys say the Scrambler is good for dirt ROADS, do you mean the dirt roads are survivable if you keep the speeds way down ala any street bike, or can you actually travel on reasonably maintained hard packed dirt/gravel roads at say 40 to 50MPH?
Try as I may, I don't seem to be able to shake the Scrambler off my short list, but I want something I can use to travel point to point on the Forest Service roads in my area. Even my commute is 3 miles a day of dirt road that's doable by Elantra.
I keep telling myself the "intelligent" thing to do is get a DR650. Then I see a picture of a Scrambler...
The Scrambler will comfortably go where DR650's go 90% of the time.
The other 10% has the DR riders working quite hard too.
Another crazy Scrambler rider I met, took his bike two up on the challenge stages of the Capital Coast adv ride. (those stages were set up for DRZ/KTM etc, but he ploughed his way through with his daughter on the back). The looks and comments from some of the so called "hard core" trail boys was priceless.
I'm still using TKC's up front for all riding, (they last for 10000km up front), and float between TKC, Mitas E-09, Metz Sahara 3 at the rear.
I'm planning a all seal tour next summer, so then I may look at Touraces or similar.
I highly recommend upgrading the shocks n forks.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:27 PM   #2092
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Don't worry about dirt n gravel. They eat it up.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:28 PM   #2093
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But get a strong bashplate if your leaning that way.
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Old 07-16-2008, 03:55 PM   #2094
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Awww, do I have to?
I considered it a moral imperative.
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Old 07-16-2008, 04:03 PM   #2095
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I have a question similar to Nick Makwell's. When you guys say the Scrambler is good for dirt ROADS, do you mean the dirt roads are survivable if you keep the speeds way down ala any street bike, or can you actually travel on reasonably maintained hard packed dirt/gravel roads at say 40 to 50MPH?
Try as I may, I don't seem to be able to shake the Scrambler off my short list, but I want something I can use to travel point to point on the Forest Service roads in my area. Even my commute is 3 miles a day of dirt road that's doable by Elantra.
I keep telling myself the "intelligent" thing to do is get a DR650. Then I see a picture of a Scrambler...

Mine is bone stock and I ride it regularly on dirt roads at speeds usually between 30 and 50 mph. Washboards are not a problem. I am a noob though and slow for curves when on dirt.

But there are three things I avoid like the plague:

DEEP SAND
MUD (this has got me new scratches on my right side engine cover *grrrr*)
HEAVY GRAVEL

I am told knobbies would help with this stuff but my Trailwings are too new to remove them just yet.

In a previous post I described how I got onto a road that was way over my level and I had no business being there. I ended up dropping the bike in a slippery mud hole. I avoid riding dirt less than a day after rain now.

The roads I ride are hard pack with light sand and rocks on top:

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Old 07-16-2008, 04:20 PM   #2096
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They are actually pretty good on metal roads. 40 / 50mph is no problem , the scram just kind of lopes along at those speeds, way better than your average road bike but the suspension is the weak point. I regularly ride with a mate on a KLR 650 & keep up fine on metal although he is getting a more comfortable ride , the scram goes better on tarseal than the KLR so it all sort of balances out
The DR is probably the sensible bike but the scrams sure are fun , just watch out for all the old farts who want to reminisce
Having breakfast in a cafe in small town rural NZ I got button holed by Nana. She regaled me with stories of all the bikes she & her late husband had owned [ She rode as well ] all the places they had been & things they had done , she knew her stuff & it was a very pleasurable 1/2 hour , that won't happen with the DR , just get used to it if you get a scram.
You are not kidding.

I was standing at a local state park road...alone...no one for a half mile...peace and quiet...birds chirping...waves lapping...taking pictures of sailboats on the local lake.

I turn around to get back on my bike and I see there is a minivan with a man and woman inside staring at my bike in its parking space.

'F*** me! Where the hell...?' I think, looking around in surprise. Where they driving in the lake?

I am looking for a trap door...or wires...or something! It is like some David Copperfield is assisting these people. The guy asks me "What year is it?"
'umm 07?'
"They still make those!?"

The rest is history. Get used to it...yeah right...
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:50 PM   #2097
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The way it works see, is the blokes who ride 'em are old school 'men' (and women).

Don't need no namby-pamby specialised trail bike to ride up a dirt road and across a bloody paddock. You can do it on a cruiser if you really wanted to FFS.

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Old 07-16-2008, 06:13 PM   #2098
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The way it works see, is the blokes who ride 'em are old school 'men' (and women).

Don't need no namby-pamby specialised trail bike to ride up a dirt road and across a bloody paddock. You can do it on a cruiser if you really wanted to FFS.

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Old 07-16-2008, 06:47 PM   #2099
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Remind me Dave , where do Ulys sit in the scheme of things . Does real blokes ride em ???
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Old 07-16-2008, 07:32 PM   #2100
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The way it works see, is the blokes who ride 'em are old school 'men' (and women).

Don't need no namby-pamby specialised trail bike to ride up a dirt road and across a bloody paddock. You can do it on a cruiser if you really wanted to FFS.

I understand and support this concept, even to the point of doing many miles of dirt road on my '04 Rocket 111. Two up. I also use my Victory bagger off pavement occasionally.
But that was the point of my question. I already have a bike I can do FS roads on now, "if I really wanted to". If the Scrambler is a glorified street bike with high pipes I can take off pavement "if I really want to" bad enough, then it doesn't fit my needs. If on the other hand the Scrambler's ground clearance, weight distribution, geometry and power characteristics are such that gravel/dirt road travel is within its design parameters than I'll have to take a test ride. I'm not talking KTM 690 Enduro speed capability, I'm just talking traveling speeds not on some top heavy, overheating, bounce you into the boonies at the first chance, designed for the street, poser.
Judging from the posts responding to my query (Thanks,guys!), I do have to keep the Scrambler on the short list.
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