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Old 11-05-2012, 08:10 PM   #421
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30 day tourist card

SB your comments are spot about the TC. I just got issues a 30 day one eventhough I said I was just touring Mex. It all works for me bc I flying out of PV back to AK for a few weeks. So on my return flight I will just get a new TC.

Had I been going straight though it would have been a major problem.

OH SHIT!!! I just checked my TVIP and it is only for 30 days!!!!

Any suggestions on getting this corrected???? Damn IT!!!! I thought TVIP was always for 6 months and the lady at the counter said they could only do TC for 30 days but like I said I didnt care.

I wished I had noticed this in Maz and I would have tried to correct at the ferry terminal.

Fire away with the bad or good new boys!!! What is my best plan to handle all this now?
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:18 PM   #422
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Goji Ruji

As for someones comment on dont trust the Goji Ruji, that is great advice. Tried to link Playa Novillero with Santa Cruz by taking a right off 15 and going through Tecuala then hoping to come out at Tuxpan.

It doesnt work. Usually with Bici Maps and Goji Ruji I can get it done but my Bici Maps are broken right now. I was pretty far out there somewhere past Palmar and ran into a local. With my limited Spanish I understood there was a canal that I would have to jump Evel Knievel style. I dont go investigate for my self because I believed him and the road was getting pretty shitty anyway.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:23 PM   #423
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If you have a tourist visa for less than the time you need, take it and your passport
to the closest Immigration office and they will help you. It isn't an issue unless you
can't get to a city.
I have always seen most tourists arriving by plane automatically get around 30 days.
They have to ask and give a reason if they want the full 6 months.
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Old 11-05-2012, 08:32 PM   #424
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I dont really care about TC. I dint even turn mine in one of my previous mex trips.

Now I am worried about TVIP. That only says 30 days too. I will head to an office in PV. Would that be the passport office for TVIP also or a different place.

I like adventure but not an adventure in exercising my patience. I am pretty sure that is what I am in for!!!

oh well it will all work out or i will just donate 400 bucks.


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If you have a tourist visa for less than the time you need, take it and your passport
to the closest Immigration office and they will help you. It isn't an issue unless you
can't get to a city.
I have always seen most tourists arriving by plane automatically get around 30 days.
They have to ask and give a reason if they want the full 6 months.
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Old 11-05-2012, 10:53 PM   #425
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As for someones comment on dont trust the Goji Ruji, that is great advice. Tried to link Playa Novillero with Santa Cruz by taking a right off 15 and going through Tecuala then hoping to come out at Tuxpan.

It doesnt work. Usually with Bici Maps and Goji Ruji I can get it done but my Bici Maps are broken right now. I was pretty far out there somewhere past Palmar and ran into a local. With my limited Spanish I understood there was a canal that I would have to jump Evel Knievel style. I dont go investigate for my self because I believed him and the road was getting pretty shitty anyway.
Not as bad as the canal, I'd bet.
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Old 11-05-2012, 11:13 PM   #426
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Old 11-06-2012, 01:04 AM   #427
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I'm leaving on early next week for a 2-3 month Mexico and Central America trip. I was planning on following IdahoSam and Radioman's route to the bottom of the Copper Canyon, but it looks like it may be difficult to get to Batopilas at this time? Does anyone have a Google Map route link, Google Earth KMZ file or GPS route that they could post to this thread that would outline where the construction is happening and which roads are out of commission? Also, if there is a back way in to the bottom, does anyone know what the status is?

At this point, I was planning on riding from Creel to Cusarare to Samachique to La Bufa and then to Batopilas. I was then planning on coming out through La Bufa and then to Samachique and then to Bajisochi to Rocheachic and then south to Guachochi and then to San Pablo Balleza, etc. Does anyone know the status of these roads? If they are out of commission, can someone please give me a linked together route using cities as waypoints? As a sidenote, I'm pulling the towns from the latest Guia Roji...which is rad by the way.

Thanks!
I was down mid October.
As stated the old main road to Batoplias is closed for construction.
Easy way in at the moment is Creel to Guachochic (paved), then to Yoquivo (paved halfway and currently being extended) then to Batopilas. Dirt length about 80km.
This road isn't bad unless there has been recent rain, when everything turns to mud and the trucks really chew it up.

The much harder route is Samachique to Batopilas, which is impassable uphill from Batopilas after rain, but might be doable downhill. Again 4-wheelers really chew it up.

Don't know what you are travelling on. I was on an R80G/S, big tank, full luggage and I had two days of rain after I got down to the bottom of the canyon. Basically, after struggling for a day on the route up to Samachique, I returned to Batopilas and tried to get out by the way I came in from Yoquivo. That also defeated me and I ended up throwing the bike in the back of a 4 x4 and getting out that way. We still took 5 hours as the pickup was struggling in the mud.

It would have been a great ride if it had been dry. Keep it in mind. That said the challenges still made it a worthwhile and fun trip. (more so once I was back up top )
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Old 11-06-2012, 02:29 PM   #428
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Tvip

Hey, I was wondering since you are close to matzatlan, could you run the ferry over to la Paz and do your tvip export there, and renue it as well on the return to the mainland? Tvip not required in baja, and I know you can purchase it in la Paz. So maby you can turn it in there as well. Just a thought
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Old 11-06-2012, 07:58 PM   #429
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Hey, I was wondering since you are close to matzatlan, could you run the ferry over to la Paz and do your tvip export there, and renue it as well on the return to the mainland? Tvip not required in baja, and I know you can purchase it in la Paz. So maby you can turn it in there as well. Just a thought
No you can not out-process your TVIP at the ferry in Maz or La Paz. It has to be at the border either north or south.

I will go to PV INM tomorrow. I blew it off today and enjoyed San Blas and surfed Sayulita. I think it is a lost cause so good bye 400 bucks and hello hassle at the southern border of mex.

I typed up a pretty good story using google translate. We will see how it goes.
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Old 11-07-2012, 06:33 AM   #430
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Thats a bummer, good luck to ya what ever you decide to do. Hope it works out in your favor. I will be crossing at agua prieta on Friday morning, and I can promise you I will be triple checking all of my paperwork.
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Old 11-07-2012, 05:17 PM   #431
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No you can not out-process your TVIP at the ferry in Maz or La Paz. It has to be at the border either north or south.

I will go to PV INM tomorrow. I blew it off today and enjoyed San Blas and surfed Sayulita. I think it is a lost cause so good bye 400 bucks and hello hassle at the southern border of mex.

I typed up a pretty good story using google translate. We will see how it goes.
Dick Hubbard from New Zealand had the same issue, he employed an official but at what cost I am not sure, they have managed to continue south at keep it all above boards.
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Old 11-07-2012, 07:10 PM   #432
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30 day TVIP ISSUES

So I spent almost the entire day running around Nuevo and Puerto Vallarta today. 4 different offices. 2 INM 1 Consulate and 1 La Aduana (SAT or bank type place that does TVIP). There is one in PV near Costco for those of you interested.

I am not sure if I need to write the story of how each place could do nothing and please go here then there or maybe here again. Also my attitude at this point is not great so I will spare all of you my anti-Mexico TVIP process rant. I was honest at some(like mom always says) and then made up a story about a family emergency in AK at others. Even with no TVIP INM was not willing to change my TC to an FM3 Visa unless I went to a border; PERIOD! Lady was not so pleasant. So back to square one.

In the end a large part the mistake was mine. I did not look at all the documentation as throughly as I should and thats that. The lady at the border did not have a clue and I knew that. That alone should have been cause for greater due diligence.

Here are my options as I see them at this point in the order of 1 being the choice I am leaning toward and 3 no likely at all. A lot of the issue comes from the fact I fly from PV to AK on Nov 9 and return on Nov 30. Due to my work there is little to no flexibility to this.

1. Leave Mexico at my leisure some time in early Dec as I had planned. Do not correctly process the bike and no longer be able to bring a vehicle into Mexico again(Today I am very ok with this, piss off Mexico and you process).
Consequences:-$400 dollars small chance of moto being seized if I get stopped and Mex Ins being void. Ugh maybe option two is really what i am leaning toward.

2. Wait until my TVIP expires and get a 5 day transfer permit. It is 5 business days so you can really get 7 out of it. Usually takes two days to process. Not sure of the cost and there is a lot to do to make this happen. I have all the paper work in Spanish and taking it back to Ak with me to get help from my bi-lingual amiga. This makes things all good if I get stopped by someone that wants to see my TVIP or if I get into an accident. Not sure how insurance would view this.

3. Go to my boss and ask to leave work 4-5 days early and make an iron ass run to Guat. Mind you this right after my very understanding boss just approved a 3.5 month leave of absence and has to stretch coverage during that time. Also would need to change flight(minor). I would also get my money back. Right now this is really more of an idea than an option.

I could write for my pages on the day and its events but I am not going to. It just get me all wound up again. Some highlights are that my cell phone slipped out of my hand, hit the ground and split in two and a warning light came on on my bike. It is all almost comical tonight and I am sure will be tomorrow the kicker is that my situation really wont change when I wake up. Oh well such is life and things could be a much worse. I will get this resolved on way or another and continue my trip with this being just a story and part of the entire adventure.
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Old 11-07-2012, 11:33 PM   #433
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Whatever you do, don't fail to cancel your TVIP. That will be a real problem when you try to get another scooter back into Mexico.
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Old 11-11-2012, 09:39 AM   #434
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Hello, planning a trip from Louisiana to Guatamala to help build a house for a family down there. Looking for information on routes and if its advised to do this solo on first trip? Will leave around Jan. 11.
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Old 11-11-2012, 05:22 PM   #435
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Why not do it solo?
Send me a PM if you are routing down the Mexican east coast.
Whichever point you cross at, cross early and get a few hundred kms into Mexico the first day.
And don't believe what you hear about Mexico from people who have never been here.
You'll be fine, the house will get built and the only danger is that you'll never want to go back to the USA.
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