|06-04-2006, 05:50 PM||#16|
Joined: Mar 2006
Location: Too Close to Detroit
So i ask all you ATGATT folks -- do you really feel light color, non reflective clothes increase your visibility? Or is it that the riders who wear that style tend to be safer riders all around?
I think both are true. Reflective is also better. I have SOLAS tape (highly reflective marine grade) plastered all over my bike. It's on my side cases, top case, hand guards, the front of my mirrors, sides & ends of my swing arms, and I'm sure I'm forgetting some.
Hell yes I'm paranoid. They ARE out to get me.
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|06-04-2006, 05:56 PM||#17|
Joined: Jun 2003
ADAC (the German auto club) conducted a study of visibility of various colors in various light levels and weather. They found that white is the most visible color overall, including in fog and twilight.
It is also the most reflective color not only in the visible spectrum of light, but also in infared and ultraviolet. That makes it the coolest color from a heat-absorption standpoint.
|06-05-2006, 02:06 PM||#18|
Joined: Feb 2005
I am by far the most visible rider I have ever seen in my hometown.
White Power Ranger action combined with Headlight Modulator and Sylvania Silverstar makes people think you are a cop!!!
"And you still can hear me talkin' to the people who don't listen to the things that I am sayin' praying someone's gonna hear.
I guess I'll die explainin' that the things that they complain about are things they could be changin' thinkin' someone's gonna care.
I was born a lonely singer, and I guess I'll die the same, but I've got to feed the hunger in my soul.
And if I never have a nickel I won't ever die ashamed, cause the truth remains that no-one wants to know
|06-05-2006, 02:18 PM||#19|
Joined: May 2002
Location: Denver, CO
I'm a big believer in contrast. My GS is red, and my Darien is blue. Stay away from dark colors, and that includes your bike.
2012 Speed Triple
|06-05-2006, 02:27 PM||#20|
...a mischievous soul
Joined: Jul 2003
Location: Stevensville, Michigan
In Michigan, the State Police cars have a single revolving red light atop their cars.
You would be amazed how many people spot a red full-face helmet and slow down, thinking it's a State Trooper.
My wife's even commented on it. When she's seen me riding, she's said she spotted that helmet long before the motorcycle even registered.
'Course, now I've got a silver Sy-Maxx (they don't come in RED) so it doesn't matter.
I said I would do my best. I didn't say it would do any good.
........2003 Ural Tourist. TANSTAAFL...
Now Selling stuff on Deviantart
|06-06-2006, 07:44 AM||#23|
Joined: May 2006
Location: Rochester, MN
Those pics just sold me.
I'm looking to replace my 10+ year old helmet (it sat in a closet for 6 years while I got married and had kids.)
My next one will be non-asphalt colored.
|06-06-2006, 07:13 PM||#24|
Montana Saturday Night
Joined: May 2006
Location: Grand Rapids MI
That white helmet really shows up.
A picture's worth a thousand words, as they say.
|06-06-2006, 09:14 PM||#25|
Joined: Jul 2002
Location: Bay Area ~ NorCal
How conspicuous is the colour of your car?
Safe vehicle colours
The colour of a car plays a major role in determining whether the vehicle will be involved in a crash.
Swedish study shows black is a risky colour
A study of 31,000 crashes in Sweden found that black cars were involved in 22.5% of the crashes even though black cars made up only 4.4% of the vehicle population.
This means that black cars were 5 times more likely to crash.
According to Daimler Benz, the ratings for
colour ranges from white - at 86% percent -
down to black, dark red and dark blue at 4%
Light Ivory 71%
Aqua Blue 71%
Pastel White 67%
Off White 65%
Maple Yellow 58%
Signal Red 44%
Autumn Beige 38%
Carnelian Red 21%
Red Green 21%
Beige Grey 20%
Deep Blue 5%
Dark Olive 5%
Dark Red 4%
Dark Blue 4%
Everybody is someone else's weirdo.
|06-07-2006, 12:57 AM||#26|
Joined: May 2006
It's interesting to note though that further down in the article it says this. Which would go against the idea that white is always the most visible:
Many people think that particular colours are safer because they are more visible but it isn’t as simple as that.
The visibility of cars depends on the weather, road conditions the landscape and the time of day.
Generally bright and brilliant colours are much better than dark colours because they reflect a lot more light and can be seen from up to four times the distance of vehicles painted a dark colour.
The US National Safety Council defined the safest colour as "one that is highly visible in the widest range of lighting, weather and vision conditions"
The Safety Council noted that white is the most visible colour in uniform lighting, but it has low visibility on a light coloured road in bright sunlight and in snow and fog.
|06-07-2006, 02:15 PM||#27|
Joined: Apr 2003
Location: East of Bonneville, North of Moab
Porche made blue cars because they stood out in the European winters
The Mercedes data is pointed out as being pretty old, but it's not specific as to when. It might be the same study they ran in the 70's where the visibility tests were done in urban, winter European rural (= snowy) and summer rural European (= dark forests) settings. The main result was that Contrast is King. White cars ranked high in summer but low in winter. Contrast within the same vehicle helps. The best overall visibility was a test car that was patterned in black and white. Cop cars are painted like that for a good reason.
Look at the picture of the motorcyclist with the white helmet. The major contrast I'm picking up is between the dark jacket and the white helmet. The simplistic view would be that dark is bad but in this case the dark jacket made the white helmet stand out even better. And the white helmet made the dark jacket stand out better too. If he was wearing a gray jacket that blended in with the background then the white helmet would have almost disappeared too.
So the lightness of any one object all by itself means next to nothing. Any of you seen the movie THX-1138? All the backgrounds and all the clothing of the civilians are white. Except the robot cops who are in black. When one of them is on screen it dominates the view.
And as Photog and BradVardy pointed out, impersonation of a school crossing guard doesn't hurt either.
"A voyage whose two ends were out of sight - a voyage sufficient in itself."
"Master and Commander", Patrick O'BrianIBA 31991
TonyA screwed with this post 06-07-2006 at 02:24 PM
|06-07-2006, 05:15 PM||#28|
Joined: Apr 2005
awhile back i was driving down the freeway and I noticed a yellow dot way ahead.
i said to myself..what the hell is that...
you guessed it, it was a yellow moto helmet. I saw the helmet/yellow dot way before I could tell it was even a motorcycle.
so I went out and bought an arai helmet in this color:
scroll down to "axis yellow"
I think Arai stopped carrying the quantum in this yellow.
I've noticed a lot more people seeing me (especially compared to my black helmet, with my very low black/chrome bike and dark brown leather jacket). I was freaking invisible.
The new honda goldwing yellow is similar.
I will only buy this color now.
Scott in Sacramento
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|06-08-2006, 06:44 AM||#29|
Joined: Aug 2005
Location: Limbo Ga. long story!
+1 for the Icon vest. I wear the bright yellow. If it fades, just toss it for another, mucho cheaper then a hi-vis 'stich. Started wearing one just to get on and off base as required, now I wear it all the time and definately believe in it. Wear an Arai XD in white as well. I guess its maybe age, but I really don't care what I look like anymore as long as I'm seen. With all the data being debated as to whether either make much of a differance, I figure if it makes just one asshole not wipe my shit out, its more then paid for itself!
|06-11-2006, 09:44 PM||#30|
Joined: Apr 2006
It's hard to really know if something helps, but it definately couldn't hurt, so wear as much contrast and reflectivity as possible.
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