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Old 01-30-2011, 11:00 PM   #1951
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Powder coating stock Honda CRF Rims and Hubs

Hey Woody,

A friend of mine asked what I knew about powder coating stock hubs and rims on his '05 CRF450 Honda.
I said I didn't know anything but that I would try and find out.
Looked on this thread and found a comment about the rims weakening (KTM or BMW) but couldn't find anything Honda rims or their hubs.
Any info/advice would be appreciated.
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Old 01-31-2011, 02:47 PM   #1952
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Hey Woody,

A friend of mine asked what I knew about powder coating stock hubs and rims on his '05 CRF450 Honda.
I said I didn't know anything but that I would try and find out.
Looked on this thread and found a comment about the rims weakening (KTM or BMW) but couldn't find anything Honda rims or their hubs.
Any info/advice would be appreciated.

FYI,,,this applies across the board to any high tensile strength alloy rims,,,,we've noticed that powder-coating the high tensile strength alloy rims appears to soften the rim,,you are baking it circa 375-475 degrees F for an hour,,,,steel rims aren't affected,,why i notice it is folks send in their powder-coated rims and shortly thereafter they are here with rims that look like the notoriously soft Behrs of KTM LC-4/8 or BMW F800GS .

nor are the cast hubs,, we usually only powder-coat rims for show bikes ,,cast mags,,an dth eoccassional X-laced BMW wheels if they are kept mainly on the road...[the X-lace pattern holds the wheels together/creates more structural support than standard rims

bottom line for you MXers powdercoat the hubs if ya want but re-anodize the rims
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Old 01-31-2011, 08:25 PM   #1953
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Powder coating stock Honda CRF Rims and Hubs

Thanks for the quick answer.
Just want to clarify one more time since you wrote: "nor are the cast hubs,,"
Rims: no
Hubs: yes
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Old 01-31-2011, 10:10 PM   #1954
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Thanks for the quick answer.
Just want to clarify one more time since you wrote: "nor are the cast hubs,,"
Rims: no
Hubs: yes
you got it!!!

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Old 02-01-2011, 03:01 PM   #1955
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Ok I did search but found some conflicting info... So I thought I'd ask the pro.

What is the recommended torque tension on Ktm 9x0 adventure spokes?

And in case the torque wrench goes crazy, how do you approximate it?
Sharp "dings" as opposed to dull ones?

I've been checking mine and they vary in a huge way from one to the next

Thank you!!!
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:23 PM   #1956
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how tight to twist them nipples..???

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Ok I did search but found some conflicting info... So I thought I'd ask the pro.

What is the recommended torque tension on Ktm 9x0 adventure spokes?

And in case the torque wrench goes crazy, how do you approximate it?
Sharp "dings" as opposed to dull ones?

I've been checking mine and they vary in a huge way from one to the next

Thank you!!!

well,,, till they scream uncle!!!!!,,,,,duhhhh

ok a nice high pitched ding is ok,,, a ting is better but no dongs or doiiiiings...

FYI,,,10Nm=7ft/lbs= 84 inch/lbs
most folks use 4-5Nm=2.8-3.5 ft/lbs=33.6-42inch/lbs

FYI,,we never use a torque wrench,,i trust the feel of my wrist and the pitch in my ear....as i twist them nipples...
you know,,ting,,ting,,ting for Superlace and ding ,,ding ding for regular spokes

Pssst a lil secret,,,that torque wrench will tell ya the amount of resistance....between your nipple and your spoke,,that's all,,you can have the perfect reading and yet have spokes too tight and /or too loose,,now why's that???...contemplate the following scenarios,,,,

what will it tell you if you have rusty/dirty threads on spoke or nipple,,,???

what will it tell you when you have clean spokes and nipples???,,

what will it tell ya if you used anti-seize on your threads or 3in 1 oil or bearing grease???,,,[OBTW,,,i always use chain saw bar oil for ss spokes and zartan nipples and the special anti seize jism buchanans has concocted for keeping ss n ss from seizing

think on these things

at days end a good nights sleep comes from the sweet lullabye of ding,,ding ding ding ding ding ....
as well as your rim neither hopping nor wobbling more than circa .020'' in any direction
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Old 02-01-2011, 08:38 PM   #1957
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what will it tell ya if you used anti-seize on your threads or 3in 1 oil or bearing grease???,,,[i always use chain saw bar oil for ss spokes and zartan nipples and the special anti seize jism buchanans has concocted for keeping ss n ss from seizing

think on these things

at days end a good nights sleep comes from the sweet lullabye of ding,,ding ding ding ding ding ....
as well as your rim neither hopping nor wobbling more than circa .020'' in any direction
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Ding ding ding..ting ting... Ok I'm gonna train my ears. I don't have a torque wrench for spokes so...I'll follow your advice! Thank you thank you

And yes, i thought about the nipple/rust/thread. I've been cleaning them.
I was going to seal them using your technique for tubeless...so no oil in there.

I don't have any wobble but had a DING on the front rim which is now straight (it's a spare set that I've been experimenting with).

You should have a donation email/paypal or something for all your advices. When I can afford it..... I'll get a nice set from you ... I've been lurking at your work for quite a while.

Thanks again!
I'm going back to ding ding ding.... Hopefully I'll sleep well after that
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Old 02-03-2011, 12:45 AM   #1958
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Woody,
Is there a discount on services for forum members? A secret password maybe?
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Old 02-03-2011, 05:43 PM   #1959
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Old 02-03-2011, 06:14 PM   #1960
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thanks for the info over the phone hub ships out tomorrow
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Old 02-03-2011, 07:33 PM   #1961
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ok thanks for the novel
hope i didn't scare ya away

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PS,,what novel??
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Old 02-03-2011, 08:32 PM   #1962
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Woody,
Is there a discount on services for forum members? A secret password maybe?
Tough economy these days, so I understand asking for a discount, most of the time I do too... but I feel it is important to recognize the level of quality and service Woody provides.

If you've never seen one of his wheels, I suggest asking a few inmates here to provide you with a few adjectives, or better yet get your hands on one; I would say he elevates the wheel to an art form. Then take the time to read through all his posts offering technical support and advice to the ADV community. Sure, he makes sales here, but they are earned.

My point is, in this day and age there are very few places where we can turn for a quality product and the level of service and expertise Woody offers. We have to support the good guys when we see them, or soon they'll all be gone.

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Old 02-06-2011, 06:48 AM   #1963
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Tough economy these days, so I understand asking for a discount, most of the time I do too... but I feel it is important to recognize the level of quality and service Woody provides.

If you've never seen one of his wheels, I suggest asking a few inmates here to provide you with a few adjectives, or better yet get your hands on one; I would say he elevates the wheel to an art form. Then take the time to read through all his posts offering technical support and advice to the ADV community. Sure, he makes sales here, but they are earned.

My point is, in this day and age there are very few places where we can turn for a quality product and the level of service and expertise Woody offers. We have to support the good guys when we see them, or soon they'll all be gone.

Peace.
Agreed. One of the most genuine post i've read so far this year!
He addresses your concerns/queries well enough even before you commit your hard-earned monies to him...
It's been 30+ email exchanges between us, and he hasnt earned a single penny from me yet... But it's so gonna change by the month's end..
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Old 02-09-2011, 06:21 PM   #1964
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Woody, I sent you hubs and you guys made me these. 17 rear, 19 front supermoto-ish set up. They look sweet.




I also own one of these. Aprilia Dorsoduro

I would love to have a wheel set like one of these for more light offroad and adventure riding. I'm not really a streetbike guy but love the Aprilia Dorsoduro. I have no idea if spoked wheels(17 and 19) are possible fit due to lack of hub match but if you found a way I would be very interested and so would alot of other owners. Any thoughts?
Woody, I sent you hubs and you guys made me these. 17 rear, 19 front supermoto-ish set up. They look sweet.




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Old 02-09-2011, 07:32 PM   #1965
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19/17 for an aprillia Dorsoduro???,,why not????

Yooper at Heart and all your buddies...

send me very good drawings with dimensions or both wheels with all the spacers /discs etc in place and i'll bet i can put something together for ya

woody

PS i like the look of your set-up much better than the SM version,,,same goes for that Moto Morini combo,,,,,how about you??? a lil ride report would be in order

hey,,,i even started a new thread recently,,,perhaps you can initiate it,,,my thoughts are:

1,,, make a post ,,,of you ,you n your bike,,,

2,,then add and modify /edit it so folks can see all the variations and your experiences ove rthe long haul

3,,please DO NOT turn it into a big long discussion thread... there are plenty of them out there already


here it is:
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=646947
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