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Old 07-13-2011, 02:38 PM   #2116
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XT225 wheel options

Wheel dummy here, please bear with the ignorance.

I'm building up an older Yamaha XT225 (93) for my wife who is about to start riding, and the rear 18" wheel needs some attention. To my inexperienced eye, the wheel looks OK overall, but is missing a spoke and is out of true by 1/4" or so. No obvious dents or dings. In changing the tire out, there is some rust on the spokes on the inside of the rim.

So - what might you recommend? New spokes and truing? Use is about 80/20, offroad/on. Won't be aggressive riding at all, but being in the Pacific Northwest we do ride in the wet routinely if that makes any difference. Tires are trials - MT43's currently.
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Old 07-13-2011, 03:08 PM   #2117
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Wheel dummy here, please bear with the ignorance.

I'm building up an older Yamaha XT225 (93) for my wife who is about to start riding, and the rear 18" wheel needs some attention. To my inexperienced eye, the wheel looks OK overall, but is missing a spoke and is out of true by 1/4" or so. No obvious dents or dings. In changing the tire out, there is some rust on the spokes on the inside of the rim.

So - what might you recommend? New spokes and truing? Use is about 80/20, offroad/on. Won't be aggressive riding at all, but being in the Pacific Northwest we do ride in the wet routinely if that makes any difference. Tires are trials - MT43's currently.
well 1/4'' inch run out is at least 4-5 x as much as ya want...

FYI,,the problem with all the old wheels is the rust that is in the nipples which even if you lube and/or use rust penetrant etc and get em to loosen up,,the fly in the ointment is when ya need to tighten em down and the rust jams the nipple preventing further turning,,,
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1,,,low budget $$$=a new oem nipple set,,,and another spoke[ya need to know left or right side and inner or outer
2,,,another possibility = remove all nipples and chase threads
3,, buy some aftermarket ss spokes with ss nipples circa $100
4,,ditto save $15 by using the zartan/nickel coated steel nipples

IMHO if you are keeping the bike and are in moist/humid terrain/climate go with ss n ss..otherwise the latter ie zartan is more than adequate...

IMHO #2=from your description you won't need advanced services like superlacing...i'd go with slightly beefier ss spokes ..they are tougher and cost the same

if ya need a wheelsmith 's services most will get circa $88-99 to do this

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Old 07-13-2011, 09:17 PM   #2118
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Woody, I have an '08 Triumph Scrambler sidecar rig. Got a ballpark price for modifying the spoked rear wheel to accept a car tire (tubeless, obviously)? Just looking at options, as the rig eats pusher tires like it's going out of style.
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Old 07-14-2011, 03:46 AM   #2119
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Woody, I have an '08 Triumph Scrambler sidecar rig. Got a ballpark price for modifying the spoked rear wheel to accept a car tire (tubeless, obviously)? Just looking at options, as the rig eats pusher tires like it's going out of style.
welcome to the perennial complaint about eating rear tires like crazy fraternity,,,

it comes with the territory ,,,the pusher wheel will eat motorcycle tires,,they weren't designed fro that kind of work,,,they have the wrong profile ie too round versus flat as well as the inner construction of the carcass..

Rx,,convert /transform the rear wheel by lacing a 15'' rim to it,,,and running something like a 140 /90 x 15 michelin on it... we just did on efor a harley davidson,,even sealed it for tubeless....

next ya wan to upgrade to beefier spokes and the superlace technology,,,there are waaayyyy stronger sideloads on all the wheels in sidecar especially the rear

$$$$,,,???...circa $400-500 depending on rims used

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Old 07-14-2011, 07:40 AM   #2120
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Thanks for the info. The next step is going to be getting some measurements of the tire sizes I can run and make sure it clears my subframe.

I think getting that wheel changed out is next on my list of modifications!
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Old 07-14-2011, 07:45 AM   #2121
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Thanks for the info. The next step is going to be getting some measurements of the tire sizes I can run and make sure it clears my subframe.

I think getting that wheel changed out is next on my list of modifications!
you won't regret it,,,it'll pay for itself in a few tire changes,,40,000miles versus 2-4,000,,nort to mention the enhances stability and safety
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Old 07-21-2011, 12:57 PM   #2122
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Two pics, one without the tire is 05 Husaberg fs650e 17x5 behr Cush hub (mine, cracked dimples)

The one with a tire mounted is I believe 04 KTM 450 17x5 behr non Cush hub that's never been run.

I could run the KTM wheel and it would bolt right up I think.

My question is, will the rim off the KTM work on my Cush hub?

It looks like the spoke direction is the same, but is the angle possibly different on the nipple holes?

If so, I would build a 18" dirt rear with the non Cush hub and be closer to having a trail setup.

Thanks for starting this thread.





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Old 07-25-2011, 08:19 PM   #2123
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Hi Woody,

Glad to hear you had a good trip! I've been circumnavigating the Tetons on Woody's wheels with a cush-drive on my 2010 KTM 450 XC-W Six Days for over a year now - unbelievable wheel work my friend!

Next time shoot me a line and I'm buying you the cold ones.

Sincerely,

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Old 07-25-2011, 08:40 PM   #2124
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That's sounds perfect! Glad you had a safe and enjoyable trip!

Don't worry about it, I'm not sure what I bought untill i get the box and open it!
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Old 07-26-2011, 01:20 PM   #2125
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Hey woody, i may have you stumped on this one but we'll see.

I'm doing some research prior to rebuilding a moto guzzi v50, while the stock cast wheels are nice i'd really like a set of wire wheels to be fitted but i'm coming up empty on internet search for hubs that'll fit. Guessing something else from the guzzi line up will be a straight fitment.

Have you an idea as to what hub would fit? Kind of a long shot i know.
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Old 07-26-2011, 03:40 PM   #2126
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convert mags to wires on Moto-Guzzi V-50,,,did they have em as an alternative..???

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Hey woody, i may have you stumped on this one but we'll see.

I'm doing some research prior to rebuilding a moto guzzi v50, while the stock cast wheels are nice i'd really like a set of wire wheels to be fitted but i'm coming up empty on internet search for hubs that'll fit. Guessing something else from the guzzi line up will be a straight fitment.

Have you an idea as to what hub would fit? Kind of a long shot i know.
well ya got me on that one too

i know the le mans was able tto swap their Mags with othe wire wheeled models,,,i'll check my Guzzi guru for advice,,you do like wise and the rest of you inmates please chime in on this..holler nthanks
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PS,,we can always build em from scratch but that =$$$$$
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Hi Woody,

Glad to hear you had a good trip! I've been circumnavigating the Tetons on Woody's wheels with a cush-drive on my 2010 KTM 450 XC-W Six Days for over a year now - unbelievable wheel work my friend!

Next time shoot me a line and I'm buying you the cold ones.

Sincerely,

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Old 07-26-2011, 04:31 PM   #2128
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can one swap '05 Husaberg fs650e rear wheel/rim with '04 KTM 450 ???

simple answer is YES,,,FYI when double checking the pics we realized that the indexing[euro] is the same,,,, good for starters...

however ,the rim size ya gave me is the clue 5 x17 = supermoto,,only the supermoto and adventure singles had cush drive hubs[[because the non cush hubs would all snap the sprocket lugs off among other maladies]

the non cush hubs also had different indexing

bottom line ,,these rims an dhubs should interchange no problem
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Two pics, one without the tire is 05 Husaberg fs650e 17x5 behr Cush hub (mine, cracked dimples)

The one with a tire mounted is I believe 04 KTM 450 17x5 behr non Cush hub that's never been run.

I could run the KTM wheel and it would bolt right up I think.

My question is, will the rim off the KTM work on my Cush hub?

It looks like the spoke direction is the same, but is the angle possibly different on the nipple holes?

If so, I would build a 18" dirt rear with the non Cush hub and be closer to having a trail setup.

Thanks for starting this thread.




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Old 07-27-2011, 12:36 AM   #2129
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Woody. what's the cost / turn around to have you look at/true up a wheel?

(08 Husqvarna 610 TE, front)

My front brake is throbbing pretty bad, and I don't "think" it's the rotor. I had a shop true it up, and they got it better, but let's face it they ain't you.


If it can't be trued up again, do you have a wheel that'd work or do I need to buy a stock husky rim (which I think is an excel)
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Old 07-27-2011, 05:11 AM   #2130
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Woody. what's the cost / turn around to have you look at/true up a wheel?

(08 Husqvarna 610 TE, front)

My front brake is throbbing pretty bad, and I don't "think" it's the rotor. I had a shop true it up, and they got it better, but let's face it they ain't you.


If it can't be trued up again, do you have a wheel that'd work or do I need to buy a stock husky rim (which I think is an excel)
normally in n out the same day,,,right now could be like that or add a day or two,,,,if it's bent we could straighten it within reason,,,,popping a new or used one on is inconsequential,,,,
we'll check rotor for true and/or warpage and worn spots if you'd like

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OOOPS,,ya wanted some pricing

truing=circa $35-55
R&R rim]= $99
new /used rim circa $160-180/660-100

straighten n true=circa $70-100
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