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Old 09-26-2011, 05:47 AM   #2206
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hush,hush,,,????,,well ya betta....

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figured i'd better bite the bullet, I need a full custom rear made up (billet hub to take a cush drive) superlaced and a decent rim etc. Can i send you my rear (with cush etc) to get the dimensions off or is there a better way? i'm guessing you wont have made one of these for this perticular bike before but i'd like to keep it a little hush hush as to whats getting built
hey maggot,,,

we 've done lot's of hush-hush stuff before

hush-hush from the ol man,,,

hush-hush stuff from the sweetie pies,,,

hush-hush from just about everyone

ya betta PM me ,,,cuz we want to keep the hush in the cush..

don't even know what cush ya got

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Old 09-26-2011, 09:18 AM   #2207
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I need to build some new wheels for a BMW R80G/S with a KTM front end on it. I'll be using the stock BMW rear hub, but I need to get a new hub to fit the new forks. They're off a 2006 KTM 250sxf. I want to go with a 21x1.85" front and 18x2.5" rear. I'd like to dish the rear a little to the left compared to stock in order to be able to fit a 140 rear tire. What are my options as far as rims/hubs/spokes to make a seriously durable set of wheels for a RTW bike. I've already broken plenty of rear spokes on this thing in south america, so it DOES need to be improved. Thanks.
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:43 PM   #2208
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I need to build some new wheels for a BMW R80G/S with a KTM front end on it...a seriously durable set of wheels for a RTW bike.


*edit - So AW, it was just the rear you had trouble with? I’m assuming it was an original G/S wheel and not a cross-spoke one. (Though I have seen those broken). I have the same requirements as you but I think I’ve unwittingly planned my way towards BMW cross-spokes.

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Old 09-26-2011, 11:39 PM   #2209
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Considering Guzzi w/ Spoked Tubeless

Hi Woody

I was wondering if you had any comment on the Moto Guzzi Stelvio Spoked Tubeless setup?

Issues / Strength / How they do it?

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Old 09-27-2011, 06:55 AM   #2210
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hey maggot,,,


ya betta PM me ,,,cuz we want to keep the hush in the cush..

don't even know what cush ya got

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done and done mate
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Old 09-27-2011, 08:34 AM   #2211
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tuff wheels for a RTW R80GS 21/18 combo...

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I need to build some new wheels for a BMW R80G/S with a KTM front end on it. I'll be using the stock BMW rear hub, but I need to get a new hub to fit the new forks. They're off a 2006 KTM 250sxf. I want to go with a 21x1.85" front and 18x2.5" rear. I'd like to dish the rear a little to the left compared to stock in order to be able to fit a 140 rear tire. What are my options as far as rims/hubs/spokes to make a seriously durable set of wheels for a RTW bike. I've already broken plenty of rear spokes on this thing in south america, so it DOES need to be improved. Thanks.
well ya found the right place for this sort of thing...

we should be able to pull this off,,, have done quite a few set-ups ,,,will check with my guy Zach about the 140/80 fitting in the rear,,,the off-set is easy to accomplish ,,,same goes for wheel building tuff wheels for ya,,,do you know for sure that that tire will clear everything BWOE the front of the swing-arm and the rest of the frame...???

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Old 09-27-2011, 12:18 PM   #2212
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Woody,
I have a 2007 BMW GSA,and if you spin my front wheel and watch the top of it you can see it is out of round,and I can feel a DRIBBLE,even my hands move on the grips, at LOW speeds,especially coast conditions.
How much would it cost to fix it if I send you just the wheel,I will remove the tire and rotors ??
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Old 09-27-2011, 02:44 PM   #2213
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dribbling BMW GSA front wheel repair,,,$$$,,,???

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I have a 2007 BMW GSA,and if you spin my front wheel and watch the top of it you can see it is out of round,and I can feel a DRIBBLE,even my hands move on the grips, at LOW speeds,especially coast conditions.
How much would it cost to fix it if I send you just the wheel,I will remove the tire and rotors ??
hi imjinscout,,

routine truing runs circa $150-180 depending on how crunchy your nipples are on the spokes,,if they are not turning smooth e we of course have to remove all th enipples and give all the threads on the spokes and in the nipples a thorough cleaning and lube

anothe rpossible uptick in $$ is the divot att he weld area,, we ususally prep/clean/fill divots with All-Weld /machine back down/touch up paint on any divot over .035'' deep.,,,beyond that depth you will notice the tire responding to the divot..circa $50 takes care of that repair

several day turn around time,,one year warranty
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Old 09-28-2011, 06:53 AM   #2214
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hi imjinscout,,

routine truing runs circa $150-180 depending on how crunchy your nipples are on the spokes,,if they are not turning smooth e we of course have to remove all th enipples and give all the threads on the spokes and in the nipples a thorough cleaning and lube

anothe rpossible uptick in $$ is the divot att he weld area,, we ususally prep/clean/fill divots with All-Weld /machine back down/touch up paint on any divot over .035'' deep.,,,beyond that depth you will notice the tire responding to the divot..circa $50 takes care of that repair

several day turn around time,,one year warranty
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Ok,I will have to send you my wheel when we get into winter and I stop riding.Thanks !!
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Old 09-28-2011, 08:16 AM   #2215
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do you know for sure that that tire will clear everything BWOE the front of the swing-arm and the rest of the frame...???
Yep, it's just a matter of offsetting it to the left a bit. I'd be far from the first to fit a 140 on an old G/S. Also, I'd be interested to hear your take on the durability of stainless spokes vs carbon steel. I've heard that stainless spokes just don't hold up as well over the long run, corrosion issues aside. I've heard a number of overlanders tell me that they've snapped stainless spokes by the handful and replaced them one by one with carbon steel spokes that have held up much better. What say you? Also, what are the largest gauge spokes that are practical to use in this application and roughly how much more would they weigh compared with stock spokes?? Also, got any hub recommendations for the KTM front?
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Old 09-28-2011, 10:14 AM   #2216
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*edit - So AW, it was just the rear you had trouble with? I’m assuming it was an original G/S wheel and not a cross-spoke one. (Though I have seen those broken). I have the same requirements as you but I think I’ve unwittingly planned my way towards BMW cross-spokes.
I had a cross spoke on the front and the original conventional lace pattern on the rear. Yes, the rear had a lot more weight to contend with, but the front wheel off a later GS was straight as an arrow after the same beating that the rear took. I think I ended up breaking 6 spokes on the rear (not all at once) if I remember right and have one good dent to show for it as well. The first two broke on a mighty impact with a DEEP and LONG pothole around 70mph, basically like running head on into a short curb at 70. Oops. I replaced those and evened out the tension on the rest of the wheel as best I could, but from then on the wheel just never was as strong and I'd break a spoke here and there on not-so-bad bumps.
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:37 PM   #2217
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my take on ss spokes????

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Yep, it's just a matter of offsetting it to the left a bit. I'd be far from the first to fit a 140 on an old G/S. Also, I'd be interested to hear your take on the durability of stainless spokes vs carbon steel. I've heard that stainless spokes just don't hold up as well over the long run, corrosion issues aside. I've heard a number of overlanders tell me that they've snapped stainless spokes by the handful


so what brand spokes on what bikes did the breaking????.....
and replaced them one by one with carbon steel spokes that have held up much better. What say you?

for starters my vantage point of ascertaining durabilty spreads some 38 years,,,outside of the Alpina ss spokes speced by BMW,,,,i have pretty much exclusively used Buchanans ss spokes speced to my criteria,,,,there have been only a few instances of these breaking [i'm talking less than 50 spokes out of millions that i've used,,,and we know exactly why they broke...FYI,,,not one broke due to mechanical fatique] ,,,,i'd be the first one to usually know if there were problems...

Also, what are the largest gauge spokes that are practical to use in this application
we use beefier 8g ss spokes ont the rear with much larger nipples than oem,,on the front KTM hub we use a different lace pattern in conjunction with 6-8g ss spokes


and roughly how much more would they weigh compared with stock spokes??
it's negligble several ounces max,,,,

Also, got any hub recommendations for the KTM front?
i'd go with an oem hub or any of the aftermarket billet hubs,,th elatter being stronger and prettier for essentially the same $$$ ie $295 with choice of color on the billets
there ya go
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Old 09-28-2011, 03:56 PM   #2218
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Hi,

Does anybody knows that wheels from Aprilia Pegaso can be fited on G650X Challenge???
On my Xc on rear wheel say Aprilia,,,,

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well that depends on what you need,,,,because i can improve on most everything...for a plain oem wheel it would be hard to beat the $707 price... we can get these too,,,, you'd get the added langniappe of us touching up the true and spoke tightness.... a $35-50 freebie


#Part Number DescriptionlbQtyEach
01 36317708790 SPOKE WHEEL, REAR (18"X2.50)9.99 1 $707.71
02 27717696640 SPROCKET HUB1.88 1 $241.66
03 36317696643 SPACER BUSH0.04 1 $11.63
04 27717718214 SHAFT SEAL (D=32X47X7)0.02 1 $16.45
05 36317708734 GROOVED BALL BEARING (20X42X12)0.15 2 $30.69
06 36317708739 LOCK RING0.01 1 $2.95
07 36317708746 SPACER BUSH0.03 1 $10.92
08 36317696637 WHEEL HUB REAR3.19 1 $327.97
09 36317708734 GROOVED BALL BEARING (20X42X12)0.15 2 $30.69
10 36317708742 SPACER TUBE0.21 1 $21.40
11 36317708739 LOCK RING0.01 1 $2.95
12 36317708735 SHAFT SEAL0.02 1 $9.47
13 36317696649 WHEEL RIM REAR (2,50X18)4.74 1 $358.68
14 36317696647 SPOKE REART (L=213MM)0.04 X $2.38
14 36317696648 SPOKE REART (L=197MM)0.05 X $2.38
15 36312345623 NIPPLE (D=3,5MM)X $1.44
15 36317696881 NIPPLE (M4.5X0.75)X $1.44
16 36317697096 HEX BOLT (M8X35)0.04 6 $5.27
17 36317697097 FLANGE NUT (M8)0.01 6 $1.79
18 36317696645 AXLE SHAFT1.05 1 $93.97
19 36317708007 WASHER1 $4.65
20 36317697098 HEX NUT0.05 1 $8.49
21 27717696646 ABSORBER0.08 5 $12.67
22 33177696644 SPACER BUSH0.07 1 $11.45
23 36317697095 PUSHROD SEAL2 NA
36317697095 was superseded by 36312346150.
24 36311231871 TIRE FLAP1.04 1 $37.92
25 36311451958 BALANCE WEIGHT (5G)X $2.20
25 36311451959 BALANCE WEIGHT (10G)0.02 X $2.32
25 36311451960 BALANCE WEIGHT (20G)0.04 X $2.52
25 36311451961 BALANCE WEIGHT (30 G)0.07 X $2.87
25 36311454310 BALANCE WEIGHT (15 G)0.03 X $2.32
25 36311454311 BALANCE WEIGHT (25 G)0.06 X $2.72
26 27717696650 SPROCKET, ALUMINUM (Z=47)0.62 1 $83.43
26 27717716859 SPROCKET, STEEL (Z=47)2.09 1 $51.38
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Cool. Thanks.

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i'd go with an oem hub or any of the aftermarket billet hubs,,th elatter being stronger and prettier for essentially the same $$$ ie $295 with choice of color on the billets
I couldn't quite tell from your website, but would you guys sell me the front hub or do I need to send you something? Are all the aftermarket billet hubs pretty much equivalent?
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