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Old 09-28-2009, 08:48 PM   #1336
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alternative wheelbuilding techniques for bmw x-lace wheels

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Hi Woody.
First off i am in the UK so am afraid all I am doing is picking your brains,hope you don't mind.
OK the question.
I have a 2006 1200GS with cross spokes.The rims are still true etc but have become pitted in places i want to either strip them and polish or paint them along with the centres(I fancy Black).Now I understand tht the rebuild of a beemer wheel is a bit odd.So,If i were to be able to make up a hub/axle to hold the center and also an outer to hold the rim concentric and in the correct position in relation to the centre(front wheel) and mount face (rear wheel) would it jut be a cae of laceing the wheel and tightening to the correct torque?
I got this info from A BMW service CD but not sure what the descriptions pertain to?

Nipple on spoke, M4..........4 Nm.....................Variant, Cross-spoked wheels


Initial torque,spokes, M4....1 Nm.....................Variant, Cross-spoked wheels


Counter-hold spokes, M4....1Nm.....................Variant, Cross-spoked wheels


Oh and as regards making a jig I am an engineering machinist(lathes/Mills etc)and work in a Plant maintainance workshop so the actual fabrication of such a jig is not a problem for me.

Thanks Andy.
well here's the bmw machine..http://photos.woodyswheelworks.com/t...ls.php?album=6

i heard someone across the chunnel tinkers with these wheels haven't found out who though.....

OBTW,,that's exactly what the bmw machine does,,,the jaws grab the rim and there's some gadget that holds the center and someone installs the spokes and hits the nipples with an automatic torque wrench,,,,voila supposedly within .060 run-out...

i have a jig that holds the hub then lace/center and true it +/-.015 or less i n any direction...well that's the gist of it,,there's a better explanation in the wisdom pages from what i've heard...also in horizons unlimited tech section,,,i tried to understand it,,,,
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tech/OGSWTTv10.pdf

OBTW..tim bonds has moved on and ricardo kuhn is hiding somewhere:>(........

i also buildt a holding jig as well as another customer ...neither of those lived up to the vision.....

some folks are having friends bring them over as luggage we ship em back as warranty repairs...in a sense that's all we do ...

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Old 10-01-2009, 03:38 PM   #1337
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Have you had a chance to mess with the 690 wheels? I have an 09 Enduro R and am wondering what wheels might be compatable or easily adapted.

I'm thinking I'd like to keep my eyes out for a 17/17 set.

There is a Woody's set available in the FM, built for a 950SE. Would this one be a possibility?
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Old 10-01-2009, 06:00 PM   #1338
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I was thinking of buying a second set of wheels for my 2009 BMW R1200GSA. I would like to have the wheels mounted with off road tires. Any idea where I can get them? Thanks in advance.
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Old 10-01-2009, 09:45 PM   #1339
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I was thinking of buying a second set of wheels for my 2009 BMW R1200GSA. I would like to have the wheels mounted with off road tires. Any idea where I can get them? Thanks in advance.
hi,,latest $$$ circa $1220 front and $1231 rear black

i have the black rears in stock and could put a 19'' in together shortly..

remember the oem wheels are not guaranteed for close run-out...ie less than +/- .015''

i am inaugurating a special deal for adv riders that buy a set of these and will do my magic on them..ie $300 of tuning/'truing for an extra $50..ie $2500 out the door....these babies will stay true for quite awhile

i've been feeling grateful to my ADVrider community..
OBTW a www will get tossed in too..LUCKY you!!,,cuz a lil lagniappe is in order for someone in cajun land..
PS..i'm married to a ragin cajun from Metarie

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Old 10-01-2009, 09:53 PM   #1340
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Have you had a chance to mess with the 690 wheels? I have an 09 Enduro R and am wondering what wheels might be compatable or easily adapted.

I'm thinking I'd like to keep my eyes out for a 17/17 set.

There is a Woody's set available in the FM, built for a 950SE. Would this one be a possibility?
Thanks
Scott
been there and done a bunch of those,,,will check on compatibility,,,your rear is narrower then a 950..so that won't work,,,and the front ???950's are all double disc,,and the only dual disc LC-4 is the late model adventure version which use sthe complete LC-8 front end:(...

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Old 10-02-2009, 08:56 AM   #1341
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The 950 SE and SM is a single disk isn't it? The 950 SE swing arm is built for a similar rim as the 690 enduro s so I figured wheels built for one would physically fit in the other, just the hubs and spacers were what I thought would be the limiting factors, and maybe rotor aliment issues.
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Old 10-02-2009, 10:31 AM   #1342
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The 950 SE and SM is a single disk isn't it? The 950 SE swing arm is built for a similar rim as the 690 enduro s so I figured wheels built for one would physically fit in the other, just the hubs and spacers were what I thought would be the limiting factors, and maybe rotor aliment issues.
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in this thread Yellow pig just reported what it takes to go from 950adv to 950SE...
http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=284243

regarding the 690,,, the rear axle is 25mm the front 26 mm,,

Zach my reident Superlace specialist just informed me that the new 690 rear hub is an anomally that is wider than a 640 and narrower than a 950,,soo it doesn't look like much swapping there,,the front is a single disc set-up but we haven't officially confirmed interchangeability,,,my gut sez it probably will interchange,,if you use the correct spacers.....

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Old 10-05-2009, 07:09 AM   #1343
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Somebody was asking about blue hubs for their GS.

Can you post a picture of them?
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:00 AM   #1344
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Somebody was asking about blue hubs for their GS.

Can you post a picture of them?
here's the link to my website photo section look in the BMW wire wheels and billet hub section,,,please do not drool on your lap top

http://photos.woodyswheelworks.com/


blue powdercoated:
http://photos.woodyswheelworks.com/d...?album=6&pos=1

blue billet:post#3

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Old 10-05-2009, 03:59 PM   #1345
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Tubeless TW?

Hey Woody,
A bunch of TW200 owners have gone the extra mile to make their big tires even bigger and put on huge ATV tires. Here's a picture of a TW with a Maxxis Bighorn:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_3631.jpg

They report excellent off-road performance and pretty decent on-road performance, considering the tire.

However, as you can probably imagine, levering one of those beasts onto the TW rims isn't easy (the TW rims are quite a bit narrower than the tubeless ATV rims on which these tires usually reside). So, a few folks have thought about converting to tubeless which may make field repairs easier.

Do you have any thoughts on the possibility of converting these rims to tubeless? They are 14" rims and with that big tire and the TWs low top speed, I would think the centrifugal force would be a great deal lower than a standard 18" rim. I haven't verified it, but I am told the rear rim on the TW200 has the correct shape to hold a tubeless tire - the little bump to hold the bead in place.
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Old 10-05-2009, 08:53 PM   #1346
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Hey Woody,
A bunch of TW200 owners have gone the extra mile to make their big tires even bigger and put on huge ATV tires. Here's a picture of a TW with a Maxxis Bighorn:
http://i303.photobucket.com/albums/n...s/IMG_3631.jpg

They report excellent off-road performance and pretty decent on-road performance, considering the tire.

However, as you can probably imagine, levering one of those beasts onto the TW rims isn't easy (the TW rims are quite a bit narrower than the tubeless ATV rims on which these tires usually reside). So, a few folks have thought about converting to tubeless which may make field repairs easier.

Do you have any thoughts on the possibility of converting these rims to tubeless? They are 14" rims and with that big tire and the TWs low top speed, I would think the centrifugal force would be a great deal lower than a standard 18" rim. I haven't verified it, but I am told the rear rim on the TW200 has the correct shape to hold a tubeless tire - the little bump to hold the bead in place.
ok,,,with a tube inside you can pretty much jam/hold most any tire in place,,,going tubeless requires closer tire to rim configurations,,,because the bead has to be properly positioned on the rim for an effective seal to occur....my gut tells me you'd want a rim at least 5-8 inches wide by the looks of that tire

did any of that help???

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Old 10-05-2009, 09:06 PM   #1347
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F%&k......... Just blew apart my rear XR650R wheel and am leaving for the Swell thurs PM.

I'll be by in the morning hoping for a quick fix & turn around.

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Old 10-05-2009, 09:15 PM   #1348
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F%&k......... Just blew apart my rear XR650R wheel and am leaving for the Swell thurs PM.

I'll be by in the morning hoping for a quick fix & turn around.

Later Dan
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Old 10-05-2009, 09:21 PM   #1349
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i'm looking for a jingle for the 'ask woody about your wheels thread'!!

this lil reminder of yesterday kinda got me thinking,,,,

Carnation milk - 65 YEARS AGO ..

This is PRICELESS

A little old lady from Wisconsin had worked in and around her family dairy
farms since she was old enough to walk, with hours of hard work and little compensation.

When canned Carnation Milk became available in grocery stores in approximately the1940s, she read an advertisement offering $5,000 for the best slogan.

The producers wanted a rhyme beginning with 'Carnation Milk is best of all.'

She thought to herself, I know all about milk and dairy farms. I can do this!

She sent in her entry, and several weeks later, a black limo pulled up in front of her house. A man got out and said, 'Carnation LOVED your entry so much,we are here to award you $2, 000 even though we will not be able to use it!'

click on this link for the surprise...OBTW $2,000 is a bit steep but some t-shirts would be ok...





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Old 10-06-2009, 08:27 PM   #1350
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Question How safe/strong is a repaired rim?

I know, the answer to this, like all questions is "it depends", but here goes:

I bought an 04 950A last summer, previous owner had bent the front rim and had it straightened. (I think by you, though not sure..) at this point, it runs true, and there's no vibration, if you look carefully you can still see the old wound near the valve stem opening.

I'm curious about how careful with this wheel I need to be. Is a repaired rim generally reliable if the job was done right? Right now the bike sees mostly road use, though some of the roads in Maine could use work.

These are the stock rims, I suspect you'll see them at some point anyway for an upgrade to something stronger before I take on any big adventures.

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