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Old 03-02-2015, 08:09 AM   #1
Kiru OP
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France to Indonesia for a good cause !

Hello everyone,

I am starting up a new exciting project. I will do a proper post about it when the website is really ready, but let me present it quickly and ask for a few advices.

I created an association in France, and I will start looking for sponsors soon. My project is a solo ride all the way to Indonesia from my country. I will try and raise as much money as I can beforehand, as well as on the way, through the organization of little events. All the money raised and the sponsors contacted will of course help me pay for the expenses, but overall will be used to help the poorest children in Indonesia by making connections with local associations and making sure that the money will go in the right hands.

Here are my concerns :

- What do you think the best route would be ? I was thinking about going through the South (Turkey, Iran, etc) but I don't know much about the visas and everything yet. Would you suggest another route ?

- Any idea on platforms / ways to raise more money, or good experiences with potential sponsors ?

- Any general advices ?

I am getting more and more excited about this project, and will be happy to hear your feelings about it. I recently bought myself a little beauty, '86 Honda FJ 1200, currently working on it to get it ready for this project.

Thanks

Edit : website ready ! www.distanceforachance.com

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Old 03-04-2015, 03:07 AM   #2
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:43 AM   #3
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Hello everyone,

I am starting up a new exciting project. I will do a proper post about it when the website is really ready, but let me present it quickly and ask for a few advices.

I created an association in France, and I will start looking for sponsors soon. My project is a solo ride all the way to Indonesia from my country. I will try and raise as much money as I can beforehand, as well as on the way, through the organization of little events. All the money raised and the sponsors contacted will of course help me pay for the expenses, but overall will be used to help the poorest children in Indonesia by making connections with local associations and making sure that the money will go in the right hands.

Here are my concerns :

- What do you think the best route would be ? I was thinking about going through the South (Turkey, Iran, etc) but I don't know much about the visas and everything yet. Would you suggest another route ?

- Any idea on platforms / ways to raise more money, or good experiences with potential sponsors ?

- Any general advices ?

I am getting more and more excited about this project, and will be happy to hear your feelings about it. I recently bought myself a little beauty, '86 Honda FJ 1200, currently working on it to get it ready for this project.

Thanks
Would be helpful to know, when did you plan to leave, and how much time were you planning to spend between France and Indonesia?

I΄ve spent several winters in SE Asia about a decade ago. And I rode from Europe to Australia seven years ago, left home in mid-October, and spent 6 months on the road, flew back mid-April. That timing was just about right for the upcoming winter – the most critical part along the way is eastern Turkey and northwestern Iran, esp. eastern Turkey will be too cold for riding, once proper winter arrives. Iran is just great, so is Pakistan (IF you can get visas for both!)... western Pakistan (Balochistan) is a bit dodgy area, but the police normally take good care of overlanders, you will probably be escorted part of the way, or even all the way to Lahore. In fact there are probably escorts in Iran east from Bam also. India is just tough to travel on a MC, the traffic especially on the plains is horrible. Himalayas might definitely be worth a detour (I was there at the end of November, was unfortunately too cold to do it). Your MC will need a carnet to get to Pakistan and India, probably Iran as well.

Onwards from India? Nowadays Burma seems like one option, but do not expect it to be easy to get the permissions to enter on your MC. Back in 2007 it was positively impossible, but now there are a few overlanders, who have actually ridden through Burma, it would be my #1 option now. If it fails, you can send the MC by sea or by air to Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur for example. There are no ferries. From Nepal via Tibet to China and Laos is theoretically possible, but astronomically expensive, and crosses very high mountain areas, so can΄t be done in winter.

Once in Thailand or Malaysia, you should head to the island of Penang, from where you can ship your bike with carnet to Belawan, Sumatra, that route is known to work. I used it. Entering Indonesia with your MC via any other point of entry seems to have caused a lot of grief for many bikers. Dunno where in Indonesia you are actually heading to (it is HUGE!!!) but Belawan is in northern Sumatra, close to Medan. Hope this is of any help. Pekka
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Old 03-04-2015, 03:44 AM   #4
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I have no idea how to raise money other than making your project public knowledge. There will be concerns, valid ones, that this is just to raise money for your own little RTW tour, all expenses paid. You will need visas for all of the countries east of Greece. Turkey is just a formality, Iran is a Embassy deal, as is Pakistan and India, I would imagine others too. However, no wishing to dash your enthusiasm, is right now prudent? With all the bs with ISIS and their band of merry men spreading (perhaps not in Iran)?
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Old 03-04-2015, 04:07 AM   #5
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ISIS holds land in Syria and Iraq, but not in Iran. I would just stay away from immediate border area with Syria in Turkey.
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:43 AM   #6
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Would be helpful to know, when did you plan to leave, and how much time were you planning to spend between France and Indonesia?

I΄ve spent several winters in SE Asia about a decade ago. And I rode from Europe to Australia seven years ago, left home in mid-October, and spent 6 months on the road, flew back mid-April. That timing was just about right for the upcoming winter – the most critical part along the way is eastern Turkey and northwestern Iran, esp. eastern Turkey will be too cold for riding, once proper winter arrives. Iran is just great, so is Pakistan (IF you can get visas for both!)... western Pakistan (Balochistan) is a bit dodgy area, but the police normally take good care of overlanders, you will probably be escorted part of the way, or even all the way to Lahore. In fact there are probably escorts in Iran east from Bam also. India is just tough to travel on a MC, the traffic especially on the plains is horrible. Himalayas might definitely be worth a detour (I was there at the end of November, was unfortunately too cold to do it). Your MC will need a carnet to get to Pakistan and India, probably Iran as well.

Onwards from India? Nowadays Burma seems like one option, but do not expect it to be easy to get the permissions to enter on your MC. Back in 2007 it was positively impossible, but now there are a few overlanders, who have actually ridden through Burma, it would be my #1 option now. If it fails, you can send the MC by sea or by air to Bangkok or Kuala Lumpur for example. There are no ferries. From Nepal via Tibet to China and Laos is theoretically possible, but astronomically expensive, and crosses very high mountain areas, so can΄t be done in winter.

Once in Thailand or Malaysia, you should head to the island of Penang, from where you can ship your bike with carnet to Belawan, Sumatra, that route is known to work. I used it. Entering Indonesia with your MC via any other point of entry seems to have caused a lot of grief for many bikers. Dunno where in Indonesia you are actually heading to (it is HUGE!!!) but Belawan is in northern Sumatra, close to Medan. Hope this is of any help. Pekka
Hi Pecha, and thank you for your answer.

I plan to leave around May this year, but as I said, the project is just getting prepared at the moment, so it might take a little longer than expected to get all the details right. Although this is my last month at work until I can really get 100% into it, so it will go pretty quick after that.

As for how long I am planning to spend between France and Indonesia, I have no idea yet. I guess as long as it will take, I am not limited in time, and I would like to stop in the largest cities on the way to promote my project and get some more donations through the organization of little "events".

I would like to thank you for all the precious information, I will be starting the paperwork for my Carnet pretty soon.

How do the police escorts work in the dodgy areas ? Do you have to contact some embassies before and organize something ?

I'll try and get more information about Burma, the situation does seem easier than before, but I need to do some research about entering the country with the motorcycle.

I am starting to focus my research on the island of Bali, where a few associations are already set up there, and rather than starting something from scratches, my goal would be to create a link between my association and one that is already active in the country.
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Old 03-04-2015, 06:50 AM   #7
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I have no idea how to raise money other than making your project public knowledge. There will be concerns, valid ones, that this is just to raise money for your own little RTW tour, all expenses paid. You will need visas for all of the countries east of Greece. Turkey is just a formality, Iran is a Embassy deal, as is Pakistan and India, I would imagine others too. However, no wishing to dash your enthusiasm, is right now prudent? With all the bs with ISIS and their band of merry men spreading (perhaps not in Iran)?
The concerns are indeed valid, one might think that the money raised will just be used to pay for the tour. But this is why my website will be updated as often as possible, during the journey, but also after, to show that I don't only do this for myself, but I really want to contribute and help the children in a country that I care about. I also saved a good amount of money to pay for my expenses, I want things to be transparent.

As for the ISIS shenanigans, I guess I will just have to be really careful and gather a lot of information before any trip around the dodgy areas.
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Old 03-09-2015, 01:51 AM   #8
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between Turkey and India, southeast Iran, and (especially) Western Pakistan, are somewhat 'dodgy' areas, yes. But there are no feasible ways to avoid them, except maybe go Tadzikistan-China-North Pakistan... But there was not long ago a suicide bombing at Wagah border (the border, that you have to use, to enter India), so it's good to keep in mind, that wrong place wrong time could happen anywhere.
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Old 03-10-2015, 11:01 PM   #9
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Hi there Kiru,
been read a brief outline of your project.
I am from EQUATORRAD MotoAdventure Indonesia. my homebase is Jakarta, the Capital city of Indonesia, but we can reach all over indonesia from East to the West. Will be a pleasant to help all Adventurer Riders that coming into Indonesia.
Once you reach Malaysia of SIngapore, The best way to get Into Indonesia is Through BELAWAN, North Sumatera. compare to the Tanjung Priok, Jakarta. will cost you fortune.
From Belawan, you need to choose which route are you will take. East Coast Lane, West Coast lane, or Middle lane. every each route will give you different sensation of riding.
and, if you need another project to give you a sense project like fund rising for children, maybe you can consider this one.
Ride for Orangutan. My co-work is www.orangutan.or.id
they need as much help as possible.
The best thing is, Do you ever imagine Ride your motorbike to Borneo? the 3rd biggest island, and one of the toughest Island in the World, seeing orangutan, and we might give you special access, to have a direct contact with them, hug them, and play with them. *after you pass some proper TEST, offcourse.

well, couldnt really help for your Journey from France to the Malaysia or Singapore edge. but once you get in the edge, do not hesitate to contact me. We might help you up for any kind of thing that you might need,
have a good adventure ride mate,

EQUATORRAD MotoAdventure
www.equatorrad.com
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Old 03-20-2015, 03:44 AM   #10
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Well, thanks for all the information !

GreenFROG, I will send you a pm.

Cheers
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Old Today, 03:46 PM   #11
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Hey guys.

I updated the post with a link to my website.

What do you guys think ?

www.distanceforachance.com

Feedbacks can definitely help !

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