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Old 03-16-2011, 10:29 AM   #19351
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If I pass you on my carbon, does that mean I get to revoke your hipster beard?


Nah, passing a leather-clad steel fixie is expected from a carbon bike. Pass me on a penny-farthing, though - I'll grow out muttonchops and wear a top hat.
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Old 03-16-2011, 10:38 AM   #19352
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I need to wash off my CF bike and am sort of wondering what are the suggested tools?

I use plain old Tide(C) for my motorcycle and old steel bikes. I have no idea what these new fangled bikes tolerate.

Everything I've read says roughly, "... Wash in warm soapy water...".

No mention of what soap?
Dish soap is mild but real sudsy. Hence the low suds laundry detergent.

I use kerosene on the chain, chain rings and cluster, and derailleurs. Then re-lube what needs lubing. The chain gets tri-flow out of a bottle one drop per link, then I wipe it down. If I can lube the derailleurs I do that using tri-flow or campy grease, depending on how things are put together.
Chain rings and cluster go dry.

Here is some basic stuff I found:

Basic CF Stuff

Issues?

Comments?

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I avoid water like the plague on my bikes - unless caught in the rain...


I prefer to let the mud dry completely, till the bike looks like it's been powder coated on - and use a medium soft HQ paint brush to dust the dirt off, it works great. you can punch the bristles into just about everything and it pops the dirt off.

After that a dry washing (no water) with a typical spray cleaner like windex, or automotive spray wash for the frame, rims, all the shiny parts.

A chain cleaning device for the chain using the biodegradable chain citrus cleaners or like. and use that on any greasy parts (kerosene breaks down finishes and plastics/rubbers etc) derailleurs, cables.

Then a dry lube on the chain, and sometimes on cables, etc. Tri flow is also good for this but i wouldn't use that on a chain. The dry lubes stay on the chain better, and repel dirt/sand much better that the lightweight stuff.

If you really care about the bike's finish after that you can use a spray on wax - an old trick at LBS was to use pledge!
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Old 03-16-2011, 11:11 AM   #19353
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Mr Head: Feh. Wash it like you do anything else. It ain't gonna hurt nuthin.

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Old 03-16-2011, 03:19 PM   #19354
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I avoid water like the plague on my bikes - unless caught in the rain...


We use water to wash every bike we tune at my shop in Bogota to the point we even build a "Wash Station" with warm and cold water hoses and also a sprinklers system to "Pre-Wash" the really dirty bikes.

We never Ever found a problem, I do need to point out the bikes where taken apart to bare bones (All the bikes got "Full teardowns" every time) a few minutes later so no corrosion issues where ever encounter.

I have use the same "wet" system since forever and never had a problem, including all my FatChance's and other prone to rust steel wonders


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If you really care about the bike's finish after that you can use a spray on wax - an old trick at LBS was to use pledge!
I learn About the Lemon Pledge trick working at the "fanciest" and most Hype-up (what a joke that was) shop in san Francisco call City Cycle (in the marina district), When I was doing most of the $250 overhauls (A task my EX-Cafe de Colombia mechanics use to perform in Colombia for $13dollars and to make it even more painful using Campagnolo grease) in any case City cycle did not even have a proper work room or anything habitable for that matter, except a 6,2feet high Dungeon with no ventilation, so the only way to clean the bikes was to use lemon Pledge.

As a side note, I did get in trouble a few times with pledge when the "Posser" stickers (from the death ride or something) got erase by the chemicals so be careful
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:45 PM   #19355
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I just blast 'em with water. I've been using Gore cables for so long...they need no maintenance at all and last for years (or decades). In fact the only part of my bikes that gets any attention is the chain...I do just enough to keep it from squeaking or rusting.
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Old 03-16-2011, 03:50 PM   #19356
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Back in the day, we'd bring a bunch of quarters on every mtn bike ride. Get off Brush Mtn and hit the car wash on the way into town.

Hot, soapy water blasted backwards on the chain/cassette makes for a VERY clean chain.

Its important to note that EVERY time I did this, I went thru and regreased all the bearings. When I say every, I mean each and every time.

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Old 03-16-2011, 04:10 PM   #19357
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Nah, passing a leather-clad steel fixie is expected from a carbon bike. Pass me on a penny-farthing, though - I'll grow out muttonchops and wear a top hat.
The Girl & I are probably moving to Baltimore soon; the goal is to live such a life that we can bike-commute, buy into CSA's for food, shop organically, all that bollocks.

Idea being we can live smugly enough to revoke hipster beards at 50 yards.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:11 PM   #19358
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Back in the day, we'd bring a bunch of quarters on every mtn bike ride. Get off Brush Mtn and hit the car wash on the way into town.

Hot, soapy water blasted backwards on the chain/cassette makes for a VERY clean chain.

Its important to note that EVERY time I did this, I went thru and regreased all the bearings. When I say every, I mean each and every time.

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I used to do that too. Back in the day, you HAD to repack the bearings. Jeez, I remember some races at Canaan where we had to replace BB's after a couple of laps. I've NEVER had to do that with a King bearing...thank jeebus.
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Old 03-16-2011, 04:22 PM   #19359
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I just blast 'em with water. I've been using Gore cables for so long...they need no maintenance at all and last for years (or decades).
Oh the Venerable Ride-On cables, One of the many "Klein tricks"...

They use to have such a bad reputation, But as usual the problem was "on the other side of the Wrench" Gore cables rule, even the ones from the brakes are useful (tri bikes and sweat loves them too)

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In fact the only part of my bikes that gets any attention is the chain...I do just enough to keep it from squeaking or rusting.
Well senor you already have the belt thing going, now figure out a G-boxx configuration and you dependence on Oil (chain oil at least) will be over
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Old 03-16-2011, 05:02 PM   #19360
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You know, after doing a lot of bike-commuting on my 50lb Electra Ultra Classic, climbing into the cockpit of my racing bicycle (an '86 Medici Pro Strada) is such a rush. OH YEAH BEBEH!
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Old 03-16-2011, 05:04 PM   #19361
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Oh the Venerable Ride-On cables, One of the many "Klein tricks"...

They use to have such a bad reputation, But as usual the problem was "on the other side of the Wrench" Gore cables rule, even the ones from the brakes are useful (tri bikes and sweat loves them too)



Well senor you already have the belt thing going, now figure out a G-boxx configuration and you dependence on Oil (chain oil at least) will be over
I think Gore was right. I've heard lots of "horror stories" about them but suspect that not enough attention was paid at setup. I still have them on an RB-1 that I setup in 1995 or so and until two years ago, it was my go-to bike since then.

Belts are for my commuter and my cyclocross bike where the consequences of breaking one are minimal (not that I've had any trouble with it). I still don't think I'm ready to put one on my MTB. I'm running a 2x6 on the 29er and reckon it'll stay like that for quite a while.

a G-boxx would be sweet though. not that I have the time to build one.
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:18 PM   #19362
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A few years ago I disassembled a Poprad Canti and sold the F/F then put most of the parts on a C-dale Caad9. I placed the Canti's in a box for safe keeping. Last night I pulled the box out to put them on the repaired X0 only to find out there are only 3!!! I search for 1.5 hours, no 4th canti
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Old 03-16-2011, 07:46 PM   #19363
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We use water to wash every bike we tune at my shop in Bogota to the point we even build a "Wash Station" with warm and cold water hoses and also a sprinklers system to "Pre-Wash" the really dirty bikes.

We never Ever found a problem, I do need to point out the bikes where taken apart to bare bones (All the bikes got "Full teardowns" every time) a few minutes later so no corrosion issues where ever encounter.

I have use the same "wet" system since forever and never had a problem, including all my FatChance's and other prone to rust steel wonders




I learn About the Lemon Pledge trick working at the "fanciest" and most Hype-up (what a joke that was) shop in san Francisco call City Cycle (in the marina district), When I was doing most of the $250 overhauls (A task my EX-Cafe de Colombia mechanics use to perform in Colombia for $13dollars and to make it even more painful using Campagnolo grease) in any case City cycle did not even have a proper work room or anything habitable for that matter, except a 6,2feet high Dungeon with no ventilation, so the only way to clean the bikes was to use lemon Pledge.

As a side note, I did get in trouble a few times with pledge when the "Posser" stickers (from the death ride or something) got erase by the chemicals so be careful

ps - I don't have access to a hose....
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:51 AM   #19364
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so it's time to show off a bit...
my new toy for extrem offroad abuse.



Sometime later i might add couple of actionpics....
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Old 03-17-2011, 07:10 AM   #19365
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so it's time to show off a bit...
my new toy for extrem offroad abuse.

Sometime later i might add couple of actionpics....
Nice bike and great photograph! I would love to see some action pics of that quality!

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