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Old 03-31-2011, 05:10 AM   #19516
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Dood! I feel fat!

Holyhellfireshit! Talk about ripped legs!

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:14 AM   #19517
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Racing and chasing...

Did my first crit of the year last night. It went about as good as most March races go for me. It was fun. There were 16 guys and 2 women (one was 40-49 and in a State Champs jersey, the other was a junior)...most of the guys were racing as 'Masters 40-49' and I suspect they were sandbagging cat 3's.

The club putting on the race put three guys on the front from the gun and we were strung out single file. I was stuck about mid pack and kept trying to move up only to find myself in the wind with no one to help...then I'd find myself mid pack having to brake into each turn. I got dropped at the first prime.

Rather than chase solo I decided to wait to get lapped and jump back into the back of the group (lapped riders were encouraged to do so at the beginning of the race). I'm toodling along waiting for the group and the masters woman catches me and I become aware that she'd been chasing for a while (she took a flyer that nobody respected in the first couple laps) trying to get my wheel. So I paced her for a while just to be a gentleman, after all, she's a state champ, right?

The second half of the race was sort of a blur of trying to organize some cohesive chase group in the B race, a tough proposition. I was lapped a second time and rode at the back of the peleton until the bell when I pulled off to watch the sprint.

I had a good time and didn't expect much more than what I got. I've got four more races in this series and if last year's pattern repeats, more and more riders will start coming out and the race will calm down a bit. Our average lap time was faster than the A race. I think that if I could have found a wheel in the first couple laps, I would have done better.

Here I am, far right, on my Pmount (gummee) with St Champ and Jr Woman in tow. The kid on the focus kept pulling thru too hard and gapping us...then we'd catch him again and he'd sit on and then gap us again.

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:21 AM   #19518
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Someone's gotta learn that kid how to pull thru...

I've been stuck in your position. No matter what YOU do, you can't make up ground without help. [Coach Gummee]Course if you were strong enough to stay in the front, you wouldn't have to. Next time: line up on said 3 guys' wheel and stay there![/Coach Gummee]

Sounds like fun. You've done more races than I have so far this year!

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Old 03-31-2011, 10:31 AM   #19519
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Someone's gotta learn that kid how to pull thru...

I've been stuck in your position. No matter what YOU do, you can't make up ground without help. [Coach Gummee]Course if you were strong enough to stay in the front, you wouldn't have to. Next time: line up on said 3 guys' wheel and stay there![/Coach Gummee]

Sounds like fun. You've done more races than I have so far this year!

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Agreed. I have found that it's much more linear and leveled off if you can stay in the front third of the pack. You then don't have to be subjected to the whiplash effect that transfers to the back of any pack. Staying on the wheel of the strong guys that drive the race will eventually make you a stronger rider and allow you to see strategy and tactics play out first hand. Just don't get suckered into being their wind block and pull through. If you find yourself on the front of the pack, do your quick pull without burning a match and back off. If they suck your wheel, stop pedaling altogether. You have nothing to prove to anyone out there but yourself. Getting on the front and showing out with a hard pull with not much in reserve will only allow them to rest in your draft and tire you out for later in the race. Eventually, someone will pull through, then you can fold back in. Keep as much in reserve for the last few laps, knowing that the pace will pick back up.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:14 AM   #19520
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I've done dozens and dozens of crits, mostly in the 90's. I've never been a good crit rider in March.

I appreciate the input. We'll see what happens next week.
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Old 03-31-2011, 11:18 AM   #19521
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I've done dozens and dozens of crits, mostly in the 90's. I've never been a good crit rider in March.

I appreciate the input. We'll see what happens next week.
Ah, cool. Probably missed that earlier in the thread.

I have a crit this Saturday followed by a RR Sunday morning in Rock Hill, SC. Looks like the weather is going to clear out just long enough for the races to happen. I need more top 5 and top 10 finishes if I'm going to cat up this year.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:13 PM   #19522
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Ah, cool. Probably missed that earlier in the thread.

I have a crit this Saturday followed by a RR Sunday morning in Rock Hill, SC. Looks like the weather is going to clear out just long enough for the races to happen. I need more top 5 and top 10 finishes if I'm going to cat up this year.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:18 PM   #19523
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:23 PM   #19524
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Shortened for Criterium race. Usually held on shorter courses such as downtown city blocks, old speedways, industrial parks, etc... Timed events, rather than mileage based. I like them for the fast-pace and constant flux of the pack.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:44 PM   #19525
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Ah, cool. Probably missed that earlier in the thread.

I have a crit this Saturday followed by a RR Sunday morning in Rock Hill, SC. Looks like the weather is going to clear out just long enough for the races to happen. I need more top 5 and top 10 finishes if I'm going to cat up this year.
It would have been way, way earlier...I remember the day Perry started this thread.

Anyone remember Perry?

I raced a fair amount around the Boulder area from about 1992 thru 2003. I was always much faster in a mountain bike or CX race than on the road...I was a good climber and good runner but never really did much as a sprinter.

Since then I've put on about 60 lbs, lost 20 of it and am just racing to remind myself to be concerned about my fitness and not just buy new, larger pants every year. Looking at the photos from last nights race I don't see myself as much as some fat guy in my jersey and on my bike.
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Old 03-31-2011, 01:59 PM   #19526
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So...this is about the nuttiest thing I've seen today.

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Old 03-31-2011, 02:25 PM   #19527
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Shortened for Criterium race. Usually held on shorter courses such as downtown city blocks, old speedways, industrial parks, etc... Timed events, rather than mileage based. I like them for the fast-pace and constant flux of the pack.
Thanks, I figured it was a race, I just didn't get where crit came from
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Old 03-31-2011, 02:27 PM   #19528
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It would have been way, way earlier...I remember the day Perry started this thread.

Anyone remember Perry?
Perry is still here, he's just called Zodiac now.
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Old 03-31-2011, 03:34 PM   #19529
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Here I am, far right, on my Pmount (gummee) with St Champ and Jr Woman in tow. The kid on the focus kept pulling thru too hard and gapping us...then we'd catch him again and he'd sit on and then gap us again.

Maybe he was just fighting the added wind resistance from that helmet visor and front reflector.

Even though that kid would probably drop yours truly, choking and wheezing, halfway through the first lap.
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It would have been way, way earlier...I remember the day Perry started this thread.

Anyone remember Perry?

I raced a fair amount around the Boulder area from about 1992 thru 2003. I was always much faster in a mountain bike or CX race than on the road...I was a good climber and good runner but never really did much as a sprinter.

Since then I've put on about 60 lbs, lost 20 of it and am just racing to remind myself to be concerned about my fitness and not just buy new, larger pants every year. Looking at the photos from last nights race I don't see myself as much as some fat guy in my jersey and on my bike.

I'm still here Flaco, just had to do a name change for obvious reasons (was my real name)...

Still riding too, been riding once or twice a week, fixed gear in the local park (Prospect Park), and the roadie on wknds in upper NJ/NYstate.

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