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Old 11-19-2012, 06:01 PM   #25981
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Looks like I will be taking the hardtail to Indy for Turkey day.
Hit this, on the way home.
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Old 11-19-2012, 06:07 PM   #25982
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bar end shifters were the next step in evolution from downtube shifters...
The Cross Check still comes with bar end shifters. I actually would like downtube shifters better. There's a thought...

Being a reformed roadie, I will resist the urge to put D/A STI on it. I must also resist the urge rob the 9 speed Ultegra shifters off the Brew.
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Old 11-20-2012, 12:45 AM   #25983
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Have both and prefer the Candy 3's platform for support and when clipping in. The Eggbeaters will roll and have no shoe support. Just be sure to get the level 3 or 11, so the pedal has full bearings. The lesser CB pedals have bushings that quickly wear out.
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How well does the Candy shed mud? Thick clayey type mud.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:17 AM   #25984
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Is this amount of gunk normal or are the fork seals blown?
That's what my forks looked like a week ago. I just wiped the grunge off with a cleaning rag. There's been no sign of any leakage since.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:20 AM   #25985
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How well does the Candy shed mud? Thick clayey type mud.
My Candy's don't gum up from thick mud, but the cleats on my shoes do. The last time that happened, I couldn't clip in until I'd scraped most of the mud out of the cleats with a stick.
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Old 11-20-2012, 04:51 AM   #25986
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:02 AM   #25987
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My Candy's don't gum up from thick mud, but the cleats on my shoes do. The last time that happened, I couldn't clip in until I'd scraped most of the mud out of the cleats with a stick.
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How well does the Candy shed mud? Thick clayey type mud.
What "Aurelius" said is the bigger issue, unfortunately. You may need to grind/cut out the tread around the cleats.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:30 AM   #25988
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My Candy's don't gum up from thick mud, but the cleats on my shoes do. The last time that happened, I couldn't clip in until I'd scraped most of the mud out of the cleats with a stick.
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oh, have to put a little stick on my top tool bag then

Good to know the Candys don't clog up.

Now to do some cross training come February in preparations for next race in April.
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Old 11-20-2012, 06:59 AM   #25989
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Hey guys! Got a nice Salsa I need to sell ASAP.

Here's a link in case you don't frequent the flea market...
http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=841270

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Old 11-20-2012, 07:07 AM   #25990
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Is this amount of gunk normal or are the fork seals blown?

Fox/Rock Shox both have about a 60 hour maintenance interval. This would be new oil, seals, and inspection normally. If you do the math that's not a lot of miles and most riders would need fork service 2-3 times a year based on the factory recommendation. From my personal experience, once a year service is a good average to shoot for.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:02 AM   #25991
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Well, I gave in to the light and bought some SPDs this past weekend. I am strongly thinking of installing them this afternoon, and then going on a night ride with them. Maybe foolish since I have never clipped in to clipless pedals, but should be good fun!

Was it Aurelius that hooked his bike up to a machine at the shop and came away with 40% power gains going from platforms to clipless?
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:35 AM   #25992
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Well, I gave in to the light and bought some SPDs this past weekend. I am strongly thinking of installing them this afternoon, and then going on a night ride with them. Maybe foolish since I have never clipped in to clipless pedals, but should be good fun!
I wouldn't do that. You'll fall over every time you have to put your foot down unexpectedly. It's very unnatural to twist your heel sideways to free your foot from the pedal, but this is something you'll have to practice until you do it automatically, and that takes a looong time.

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Was it Aurelius that hooked his bike up to a machine at the shop and came away with 40% power gains going from platforms to clipless?
The power gain was 22%, which roughly matches the 20% gain other riders had told me to expect. Keep in mind also that I didn't know how to pedal properly with clipless pedals at that time; had I used the correct pedaling technique, applying force smoothly through all 360 degrees of pedal rotation, the difference might have been even greater.
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:42 AM   #25993
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I wouldn't do that. You'll fall over every time you have to put your foot down unexpectedly. It's very unnatural to twist your heel sideways to free your foot from the pedal, but this is something you'll have to practice until you do it automatically, and that takes a looong time.



The power gain was 22%, which roughly matches the 20% gain other riders had told me to expect. Keep in mind also that I didn't know how to pedal properly with clipless pedals at that time; had I used the correct pedaling technique, applying force smoothly through all 360 degrees of pedal rotation, the difference might have been even greater.
OK, cool. I may not ride tonight at all. My wife may be going to her parent's tonight to visit with a sister who is in town and lives 1500 miles away. If she goes I will ride, but I may just leave the platforms on for now. Probably the more wise thing to do, I am just excited to try out the new ones. And 20% I can live with
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Old 11-20-2012, 10:56 AM   #25994
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Well, I gave in to the light and bought some SPDs this past weekend. I am strongly thinking of installing them this afternoon, and then going on a night ride with them. Maybe foolish since I have never clipped in to clipless pedals, but should be good fun!

Was it Aurelius that hooked his bike up to a machine at the shop and came away with 40% power gains going from platforms to clipless?
I wouldn't go night riding. I'd go to a nice soft field for your first few trials. Because you ARE, ARE going to fall over. Would you like to do that during the day on nice soft ground or at night in traffic?

...if you choose the latter can I have your stuff?
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Old 11-20-2012, 11:01 AM   #25995
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I remember reading a fairly scientific study of racing cyclists pedaling efforts that they don't actually pull UP when they are spinning, but most of the power gains from cleats/clips/whatever is from a 'scrape the sh__ off your shoe' motion at the bottom of each stroke.

since I've started using pin pedals on my hybrid city-bike, I'm finding I get quite a bit of that going as they really hold onto my favorite walking shoes (New Balance MW956)

these pedals I picked up off ebay or amazon or something cheaply rock.

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