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Old 01-17-2013, 05:43 PM   #26971
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why the 26" Troll and not the 29er/700c Ogre ?
I have 3 or 4 build kits already, all 26''. Cant really afford to rebuild all the wheel sets, new tires, suspension forks, etc. One of the main reasons I chose the Troll is because of the many build options, from a single speed to gears and drop bars and everything in-between.
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Old 01-17-2013, 08:23 PM   #26972
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It was sunny and 70 degrees today (yay climate change!), so I got out for 23 mi. on the MTB after work this afternoon. The legs felt like poo and never really got any better. Also, the trails down by the creeks and river were stupid muddy, making for some slow going. Still, it was way better than working, or pretty much anything else for that matter.
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Old 01-18-2013, 05:09 AM   #26973
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I have never seen them without a logo either. Most high end hubs have a stamp or etching, so this ones puzzling me.

Found it! It's an American Classic! Thanks guys!

http://www.bikepro.com/products/hubs...american.shtml
As an added bonus, AC makes (made) a track axle kit for those hubs. Turn it into a SS/FH in one swell foop. AMHIK

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:27 AM   #26974
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I never knew about the Ogre frame. Thanks guys!
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Old 01-18-2013, 08:37 AM   #26975
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just a quick question, seems alot of the bikes I'm looking at in my price range have the same frame, or at least the same design? I'm thinking they are all coming out of the same factory in china and just getting different stickers slapped on them. I'm not saying that is always a bad thing, since I'm not gonna shell out thousands for something without an engine, just that they all do look VERY similar.
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Old 01-18-2013, 09:00 AM   #26976
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just a quick question, seems alot of the bikes I'm looking at in my price range have the same frame, or at least the same design? I'm thinking they are all coming out of the same factory in china and just getting different stickers slapped on them. I'm not saying that is always a bad thing, since I'm not gonna shell out thousands for something without an engine, just that they all do look VERY similar.
That's exactly what happens...

http://inrng.com/2012/02/who-made-your-bike/
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:00 AM   #26977
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just a quick question, seems alot of the bikes I'm looking at in my price range have the same frame, or at least the same design? I'm thinking they are all coming out of the same factory in china and just getting different stickers slapped on them. I'm not saying that is always a bad thing, since I'm not gonna shell out thousands for something without an engine, just that they all do look VERY similar.
on the flip side of that, I was reading, a company like Specialized, there's a whole series of bikes that /look/ like the same frame with different grade components but in fact, they send the design specs to 3-4 different frame makers in asia, then the one that comes back the nicest goes into the Comp, then the middle one to the Elite, and the uglier one to the base model. so all three models have the same frame DESIGN, but different makers with different levels of quality control to hit different price points.
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:16 AM   #26978
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on the flip side of that, I was reading, a company like Specialized, there's a whole series of bikes that /look/ like the same frame with different grade components but in fact, they send the design specs to 3-4 different frame makers in asia, then the one that comes back the nicest goes into the Comp, then the middle one to the Elite, and the uglier one to the base model. so all three models have the same frame DESIGN, but different makers with different levels of quality control to hit different price points.
Any chance you could dig up a link? I'd love to check that out. (Makes sense from an economic standpoint as well.)
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Old 01-18-2013, 10:33 AM   #26979
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Any chance you could dig up a link? I'd love to check that out. (Makes sense from an economic standpoint as well.)
I don't recall where I read it.
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Old 01-18-2013, 11:16 AM   #26980
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Any chance you could dig up a link? I'd love to check that out. (Makes sense from an economic standpoint as well.)
http://cyclingiq.com/2012/02/14/shad...rtner-paradox/
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:20 PM   #26981
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Thanks!

That led me to the Vertical Limit series at the same site and way more than I ever needed to know about bike manufacturing and marketing.

http://cyclingiq.com/2011/11/03/vert...nder-pressure/
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Old 01-18-2013, 01:59 PM   #26982
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Just got back from 4ish hours on the bike. Flat. No headwind. Nope. None at all.

...and if you believe that, I've got this great bridge!

I'm tired.

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Old 01-18-2013, 06:57 PM   #26983
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just a quick question, seems alot of the bikes I'm looking at in my price range have the same frame, or at least the same design? I'm thinking they are all coming out of the same factory in china and just getting different stickers slapped on them. I'm not saying that is always a bad thing, since I'm not gonna shell out thousands for something without an engine, just that they all do look VERY similar.
If you're looking at a bike at the "thousands" price point, what are you looking at?
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Old 01-18-2013, 07:08 PM   #26984
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Spent 3 hours on the mtb trails today... with a Stihl chainsaw. Lugging that think around was like . Now I feel like . An external frame pack would have come in handy. Forearms and shoulders are shot.
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Old 01-19-2013, 05:34 AM   #26985
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Spent 3 hours on the mtb trails today... with a Stihl chainsaw. Lugging that think around was like . Now I feel like . An external frame pack would have come in handy. Forearms and shoulders are shot.
There's a backpack out there that has a chainsaw holder built into it. The brand slips me, at the moment.
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